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Gathering of things and thoughts venue related.

This thread was created too save other threads from endless opinions on host venues. 

 

Edited by hamiltonfan

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3 hours ago, Olympique_de_Marseille said:

I would place a wager on a home game (or two) in September:

There are no Argos game between August 25th and September 20th.
http://www.argonauts.ca/schedule/
No TFC games between August 24th and September 15th
http://www.torontofc.ca/schedule

There are no BC Lions games between August 24th and September 13th
http://www.bclions.com/schedule/
There are no Whitecaps games August 31st and September 14th
http://www.whitecapsfc.com/schedule

No games at Saputo between August 31st and September 14th
http://www.impactmontreal.com/en/schedule

 

If we play at home in October, I'd guess it won't be at BMO Field but maybe BC Place.

 

THE SEPTEMBER GAME WILL NOT BE IN VANCOUVER.

We are playing Cuba home and away in September folks.

The CSA is not flying the euro-based players  Europe----YVR----HAV----Europe or Europe----HAV----YVR---Europe.

If the late May/early June pre-Gold Cup friendly game is in Toronto, the Cuba game will likely be in Montreal.

If the late May/early June pre-Gold Cup friendly game is in Montreal (like 2 years ago), the Cuba game will likely be in Toronto.

 

THE OCTOBER/NOVEMBER HOME GAME HAS A GOOD CHANCE OF BEING AT BC PLACE IN VANCOUVER (October is more likely).

http://www.bclions.com/schedule/
http://www.whitecapsfc.com/schedule
FIFA dates: http://img.fifa.com/image/upload/jt0d6qoqwqwbp5sbofoc.pdf

EDIT:
Also, look at the these tweets:
Whitecaps tweet: http://twitter.com/WhitecapsFC/status/1111115675643363328
BC Place re-tweets: http://twitter.com/CanadaSoccerEN/status/1111111819605786624
and a journo I respect tweets: http://twitter.com/HarJournalist/status/1111128124471693312

 

 

 

Edited by Olympique_de_Marseille

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15 minutes ago, Yoginess said:

BC Place would get a huge American following with Seattle fans

And you can bet they put the return game as far south as possible to have less Canadians.

We need some designated "Hostile places".

Mythical King George V?

Wanderers Grounds?

Spruce Meadows?

Winning is all that matters...

Edited by Ansem

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**** BC place and the bouncy trash turf. We're no longer playing with low-league-trying-to-get-a-contract players. We have quality players that play on grass pitches. 

(Side note... Why can't BC place have grass again?) 

If turf isn't a factor in selecting the venue, then bring the game somewhere it hasnt been... Like the Mosaic in SK or IGF in Winnipeg. 

Ultimately its BMO or Saputo for me. 

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I agree on the Toronto/Montreal options for the friendly and the Cuba home match....although a summer friendly in Winnipeg or Vancouver would be a good option IMO just to grow the base and piggyback off the CPL

 

 

I think if the Canada-USA home-away is in October weather is still decent enough to play outside if needed...but I think BC Place would probably be the choice....

I cant see the US home game being in Seattle...not sure either team would want back to back games on turf.....since it'd be the middle of football season it'd almost certainly be in a MLS stadium and not one of the big stadiums

Edited by mrstepp817

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I would like to see us utilize location strategically.  I am not as informed as many on here about barriers and possibilities, but something like Commonwealth in Edmonton might be far enough to deter US fans from traveling.  Anything right along the border risks a huge influx.  

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Cuba: Toronto BMO Field

USA: Montreal Stade Saputo

•Montrealers are more anti-American than the rest of Canada. I remember Habs playoffs where the crowd booed the American Anthem promting the team to have a player asking the crowd to be respectful to the anthem on subsequent games....while out west they helped sing the damn anthem when the mic was broken (Junior hockey).

You want the US team to be taken out of their comfort zone and put them in an hostile environment + the cold

Why no Vancouver

•Turf: You don't want turf to limit your options like not playing Godhino. 

•Central American and Caribbean nations don't like turf, but no tactical advantage against Americans who are used to it while we are good enough to beat Cuba on grass.

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Just noticed 21/23 players in the last camp grew up in either ONT or QUE. Surely the guys would rather play on grass in Toronto or Montreal? Dragging them an extra 5 hrs across the country after long flights from Europe to play on turf is actually stupid. 

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8 minutes ago, KW519 said:

Just noticed 21/23 players in the last camp grew up in either ONT or QUE. Surely the guys would rather play on grass in Toronto or Montreal? Dragging them an extra 5 hrs across the country after long flights from Europe to play on turf is actually stupid. 

Hard to argue against this.

  • playing on grass instead of turf
  • mostly in front of friends and family
  • shorter travel times for anyone based in Europe

The challenge is that these things will always be true unless Vancouver install grass (and then 2 of 3 are still true)  or some other part of the country suddenly starts pumping out disproportionate numbers of CMNT-quality players.  It is is something we will need to sort out because it looks like we will be having more regular official games going forward due to CNL - and there is no point just making an ad hoc decision each time. 

Should we pick a facility and use it as the basis of our games?  Do we continue to rotate around the country with what seems like very little reasoning for any particular time? (I suspect that most national teams have a fixed stadium that they use). 

And as much as people like to bash Toronto, it has a lot going for it. 

  • Largest population base.
  • Largest airport with easiest flight access. 
  • Somewhat central so it doesn't disadvantage a large portion of the country for folks who wish to travel.
  • Vocal fanbase that does a great job of supporting our teams.

Not saying other spots don't have some of these factors, but it does somewhat seem like Toronto is the default for a reason. 

Regardless, this seems like the sort of thing that the CSA could resolve by developing a firm and public position rather than making it up on the fly every time. 

 

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1 hour ago, Ansem said:

USA: Montreal Stade Saputo

•Montrealers are more anti-American than the rest of Canada. I remember Habs playoffs where the crowd booed the American Anthem promting the team to have a player asking the crowd to be respectful to the anthem on subsequent games....while out west they helped sing the damn anthem when the mic was broken (Junior hockey).

You want the US team to be taken out of their comfort zone and put them in an hostile environment + the cold

Nah B, they're Yankees fans, Montreal isn't more anti-American

 

Serious question: Does anyone know if the venues are buying the rights to host like one does for the Gold Cup?

Edited by matty

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I would hope that we play the USA on grass somewhere in a venue that holds a lot of people. So likely BMO or Saputo. Canada needs to make money off of that game by packing the stands. If we cant afford friendlies we need to make full use of that USA game. Realistically there wont be a more hostile venue than a full Saputo in my opinion, it is far enough away that we wont get as many USA fans, and holds enough that we can make it loud.

For the Cuba game i suggest going to a CPL market for the game. I dont think we will be able to fill a MLS stadium for that game, so we might as well pack a CPL stadium. Halifax, Victoria, or Calgary would be my choices because they are grass fields. Of course, I dont see any of this happening because it will end up being in an MLS venue because it is easier for CSA to plan.

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I have a feeling the US game will be in Vancouver. Nothing against anyone else but time of year and the visuals of sold out BC Place really sells the national team. There would be a ton of Americas there. Low Can $ and Cascadia fans always complain about how thw US national team rarely plays there. Not a good thingbut would make for a cracking atmosphere

Edited by SpursFlu

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