Kent Posted April 15, 2019 Author Share Posted April 15, 2019 56 minutes ago, 1996 said: What I find strange about these kind of results and I’ve seen this in the past too, so an under 17 TFC Academy beats an U17 team like a Penerol. However, then a good portion of these same players go play on the U17 Canadian national team and have trouble beating Caribbean minnow Island teams or even an El Salvador or a Guatemala and crash out of the U17 World Cup Qualifying. You would think a Peñarol U17 team from Uruguay a country that produces players like Canada produces hockey players is much much better than most of these CONCACAF countries that Canada faces in these youth World Cup qualifying tournaments. It could be that the TFC academy is one of 4 pro clubs (3 MLS and FC Ed) with academies in Canada, and Uruguay have 16 teams in their top tier, and another 15 in their second tier, presumably all or most of those teams have academies. So in a match between TFC and Penarol we are putting a large portion of our talent pool against a much smaller portion of their national level talent pool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1996 Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 1 minute ago, Kent said: It could be that the TFC academy is one of 4 pro clubs (3 MLS and FC Ed) with academies in Canada, and Uruguay have 16 teams in their top tier, and another 15 in their second tier, presumably all or most of those teams have academies. So in a match between TFC and Penarol we are putting a large portion of our talent pool against a much smaller portion of their national level talent pool. I get it however , I’m still betting this Peñarol team if entered in the upcoming U17 CONCACAF World Cup qualifying tournament would most likely be better than most of these U17 CONCACAF national teams. But yet these same TFC Academy players will struggle playing a minnow CONCACAF country in qualifying like they have in the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Hombre Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 1 hour ago, shamrock said: Btw Montreal Impact also competing in Dallas: https://www.mlssoccer.com/post/2019/04/14/despite-results-montreal-impact-have-strong-showing-champions-division I watched a bit of the Montreal game yesterday. Sean Rea impressed me (except for his penalty effort). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 Rea impressed me as well. So did the right back, but can't remember his name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soccerpro Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 When's the last time we hosted the u17 qualifying tournament? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegan Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 Seems to me that our u17 team is the most hyped in recent memory in terms of the talent. Will be interesting to see how it translates and who is the next Tabla or David. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PopePouri Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 Jayden Nelson looks next level. He has a mixture of speed and close control that could see him being accelerated through the ranks. I was beating people easily in his last TFC II game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dyslexic nam Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 It is interesting. The skill level I see among the young elite players - even in a small province like PEI - is off the charts compared to what I saw 10-15 years ago. Kids are coming up through the ranks with ridiculous skills, and a desire to play attacking footy where they drive at (and past) defenders. I may be naive and just not as aware of the phenoms who went through the system in years past, but I think our growing infrastructure, huge registration numbers and tendency to stream top players into more elite training and developmental pathways is going to pay off in the next decade or so (and from then on). I know other countries have also continued to grow their programs but I can't help but think that we may have closed the gap quite a bit. And with CPL coming online and offering hopefully another strong domestic pathway for talented young players, I think we will only continue to get better. Admin, gator, Blackjack15 and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 17 minutes ago, dyslexic nam said: It is interesting. The skill level I see among the young elite players - even in a small province like PEI - is off the charts compared to what I saw 10-15 years ago. Kids are coming up through the ranks with ridiculous skills, and a desire to play attacking footy where they drive at (and past) defenders. I may be naive and just not as aware of the phenoms who went through the system in years past, but I think our growing infrastructure, huge registration numbers and tendency to stream top players into more elite training and developmental pathways is going to pay off in the next decade or so (and from then on). I know other countries have also continued to grow their programs but I can't help but think that we may have closed the gap quite a bit. And with CPL coming online and offering hopefully another strong domestic pathway for talented young players, I think we will only continue to get better. Absolutely. There is a generation of golden age people who talk like the NASL era was the height of soccer here. Not a chance. These kids coming up are light years ahead of kids decades ago. No comparison. dyslexic nam 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shamrock Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 Surely the roster for this team id due to come out this week, no? Simon Colin had to drop out the Adidas Cup yesterday, I guess he's a question mark now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shamrock Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 Just now, shamrock said: Surely the roster for this team id due to come out this week, no? Simon Colin had to drop out the Adidas Cup yesterday, I guess he's a question mark now. What's up with the EDIT option btw? I wanted to correct Colyn but I can't... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soro17 Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 On the Adidas Cup, what a bizarre format. The Caps go 5 - 0 without conceding and a +14 goal difference, and yet don't make the playoffs. Meanwhile, the Colorado team that they beat and that lost twice, make it through. Addona 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 14 minutes ago, Soro17 said: On the Adidas Cup, what a bizarre format. The Caps go 5 - 0 without conceding and a +14 goal difference, and yet don't make the playoffs. Meanwhile, the Colorado team that they beat and that lost twice, make it through. Wut? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpursFlu Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 The dumbest format ive ever seen Admin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
An Observer Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 How is that even possible? Admin and Addona 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soro17 Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 1 hour ago, An Observer said: How is that even possible? 4 groups. 5 teams in each group. Teams in group A play all the teams in group B. Teams in group C play the teams in group D. Teams do not play the other teams in their own group. Top team in each group goes through. In the Caps case, they were in group C and played and beat all the teams in group D, scoring 14 and giving up none. Unfortunately for them, Columbus did the same, but scoring 15 and giving up 1. Columbus scooped 1st place on goals scored . More perversely, the group d team that lost to both the Caps and Columbus made it through as the top team in group d. Strangest tourney format I have come across. Kind of Concacafy Admin, BCM and johnyb 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
An Observer Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 1 hour ago, Soro17 said: 4 groups. 5 teams in each group. Teams in group A play all the teams in group B. Teams in group C play the teams in group D. Teams do not play the other teams in their own group. Top team in each group goes through. In the Caps case, they were in group C and played and beat all the teams in group D, scoring 14 and giving up none. Unfortunately for them, Columbus did the same, but scoring 15 and giving up 1. Columbus scooped 1st place on goals scored . More perversely, the group d team that lost to both the Caps and Columbus made it through as the top team in group d. Strangest tourney format I have come across. Kind of Concacafy You should never be able to go out of a tournament when you win all your games. Crazy Admin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kent Posted April 19, 2019 Author Share Posted April 19, 2019 9 hours ago, Soro17 said: 4 groups. 5 teams in each group. Teams in group A play all the teams in group B. Teams in group C play the teams in group D. Teams do not play the other teams in their own group. Top team in each group goes through. In the Caps case, they were in group C and played and beat all the teams in group D, scoring 14 and giving up none. Unfortunately for them, Columbus did the same, but scoring 15 and giving up 1. Columbus scooped 1st place on goals scored . More perversely, the group d team that lost to both the Caps and Columbus made it through as the top team in group d. Strangest tourney format I have come across. Kind of Concacafy What sadistic bastard dreams up a thing like that? Admin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 This format has been used before as in the 2015 Pacific Nations rugby tournament (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_World_Rugby_Pacific_Nations_Cup ). I see the the advantages of an additional match (as in the example) and playing common opponents but it does take some getting used to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
An Observer Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 Seems the TFC U15s are pretty good as well https://www.mlssoccer.com/post/2019/04/19/mls-u-15s-sweep-liga-mx-friday-ga-cup Northvansteve 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoccMan Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 Update on the Dallas Cup and Generation Adidas tournament. Both tournaments probably the most prestigious tournaments we have here in North America. The Dallas Cup especially where many former and present day international soccer stars played in as youth players. TFC Academy U12 boys win Dallas Cup U12 division over FC Dallas MLS Academy U12 boys 3-0 in the final . TFC U16 boys win 1-0 in their final winning the U16 boys Dallas Cup. TFC boys U15 boys lose their Genneration Adidas Final on penalty kicks to Chivas Guadalajara. shamrock, Greatest Cockney Rip Off and johnyb 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MM3/MM2/MM Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 No news yet on the U17 roster, the team was supposed to start pre-tournament training yesterday, USA and Mexico have announced their rosters. shamrock 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spitfire Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 The roster is out https://www.canadasoccer.com/canada-announces-squad-for-concacaf-men-s-under-17-championship-p162138-preview-1 shamrock, Zem, Kadenge and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Hombre Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 1 hour ago, spitfire said: The roster is out https://www.canadasoccer.com/canada-announces-squad-for-concacaf-men-s-under-17-championship-p162138-preview-1 Good squad. Will be interesting to see how they get Colyn, Habibullah, Russell-Rowe and Nelson all on the same pitch. A lot of attacking firepower there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MM3/MM2/MM Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 At Mexico Camp but not on qualifying roster: Damian Iamarino Mckail Brathwaite Ralph Priso-Mbongue Sean Rea On qualifying roster not at Mexico: Deylen Vellios, Massud Habibullah Ralph Priso-Mbongue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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