Dominic94 Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 The future of our backline ? https://www.ottawafuryfc.com/news_article/show/988232?platform=hootsuite I don’t know a thing about him so if someone can chime in. I like that Ottawa has implemented the “Homegrown” contract they’ll be in MLS in no time now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bison44 Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 Would he have been at the 17 summer games? I remember a big kid (CB) with a similar hairstyle on the ontario team. Good job Ottawa, bringing up the youngsters!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deschamp86 Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 1 hour ago, Dominic94 said: I like that Ottawa has implemented the “Homegrown” contract they’ll be in MLS in no time now... My exact thoughts when I read it initially Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SthMelbRed Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 So, their definition of 'Homegrown' is simply that he grew up in Ottawa? How can a club without an academy actually develop 'Homegrown' players? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackdude Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 Just now, Bison44 said: Would he have been at the 17 summer games? I remember a big kid (CB) with a similar hairstyle on the ontario team. Good job Ottawa, bringing up the youngsters!! It wasn't him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jordan Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 2 hours ago, SthMelbRed said: So, their definition of 'Homegrown' is simply that he grew up in Ottawa? How can a club without an academy actually develop 'Homegrown' players? He trained with the team last year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SthMelbRed Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 14 minutes ago, jordan said: He trained with the team last year It's a bit of a stretch to claim that training with the first team before signing a contract makes him homegrown. Highly dubious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jordan Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 1 minute ago, SthMelbRed said: It's a bit of a stretch to claim that training with the first team before signing a contract makes him homegrown. Highly dubious. He played a friendly with them last year, Gloucester seems to have a relationship with them, Jadon’s friend Jonathan David also trained with the Fury first team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SthMelbRed Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 5 minutes ago, jordan said: He played a friendly with them last year, Gloucester seems to have a relationship with them, Jadon’s friend Jonathan David also trained with the Fury first team Still not buying it. Apparently, there are some gullible Fury supporters who are, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboAl Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 5 hours ago, SthMelbRed said: Still not buying it. Apparently, there are some gullible Fury supporters who are, though. You may not buy it but if a few extra tickets are sold because of the portrayal, then job done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shamrock Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 7 hours ago, SthMelbRed said: It's a bit of a stretch to claim that training with the first team before signing a contract makes him homegrown. Highly dubious. True. Yes he's grown at home but I don't think that's the point. They make it seem as if they invested in this kid while in fact they've only tested him last year. Sure, it's great that they offer him a contract, but why the false statement? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SthMelbRed Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 2 hours ago, shamrock said: True. Yes he's grown at home but I don't think that's the point. They make it seem as if they invested in this kid while in fact they've only tested him last year. Sure, it's great that they offer him a contract, but why the false statement? You and I are in agreement on this one. :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shamrock Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 One can only assume they're feeling the heat of the CPL, especially when it comes to grabbing media-attention. Still doesn't warrant any untrue statements though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Hombre Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 Yeah, it's not like Alphonso Davies who came up through the ranks attending Whitecaps youth camps growing up and graduated through the ranks of the U15 and U17 team to the MLS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shamrock Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 55 minutes ago, El Hombre said: Yeah, it's not like Alphonso Davies who came up through the ranks attending Whitecaps youth camps growing up and graduated through the ranks of the U15 and U17 team to the MLS. Not sure if it's the usual sarcasm, but at least they HAVE an academy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SthMelbRed Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 1 hour ago, El Hombre said: Yeah, it's not like Alphonso Davies who came up through the ranks attending Whitecaps youth camps growing up and graduated through the ranks of the U15 and U17 team to the MLS. Alphonso Davies was with the Whitecaps between the ages of 14 and 18. They played a huge part in his development into the player he is today, along with the various clubs he was part of in Edmonton. Also, in MLS, 'Homegrown' has a specific connotation when it comes to their roster rules. So, the Whitecaps weren't making any disingenuous statements when he was signed, nor at any point through his time with the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Hombre Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 August 2015 - Joins Whitecaps residency. February 2016 - Attends preseason training camp with VWFC first team. July 2016 - Makes first team appearance with VWFC. Really impressed with what the Whitecaps residency was able to do over the winter break to mold him into the player he is. The hairs we are splitting are so fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shamrock Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 You can't really blame the Whitecaps for letting him play professionally at age 16, him being such an exceptional talent. They could have kept him at the residency, but I think we can all agree they made the right call (and by doing so, helping hom develop). Fury fc had nothing to do with developing this kid, they just offered some 18 year old player a contract. Comparing these two is just a false equivalent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Hombre Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 3 hours ago, shamrock said: You can't really blame the Whitecaps for letting him play professionally at age 16, him being such an exceptional talent. They could have kept him at the residency, but I think we can all agree they made the right call (and by doing so, helping hom develop). Fury fc had nothing to do with developing this kid, they just offered some 18 year old player a contract. Comparing these two is just a false equivalent. The comparison is based entirely on considering them "homegrown", not their talent level. Davies was considered "homegrown" and a "product of the residency" when he stepped on the field after less than a year in Vancouver, let alone with the team. All of the development he did with the team was after this. Just pointing out that charging that Ottawa Fury is doing something subversive while not recognizing that this is done everywhere, is a little disingenuous. Same would go for TFC when they promoted Osorio. I think he spent more time with Nacional than with TFC. He had the same trajectory as Davies where he spent the fall with TFC Academy and was then an MLS starter. Jadon has probably trained with the Fury as much as Davies and Osorio did with their teams prior to being first team players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bison44 Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 I'm just happy they are giving a young "local" player a contact. The more pro teams we have the more spots for CDN players. I put quotations around local so we dont get fighting about how which neighborhood he grew up in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ottawafan74 Posted January 26, 2019 Share Posted January 26, 2019 Article says he grew up in Ottawa playing for Cap U and Gloucester. Doesn’t say the Fury developed him. Some folks here really try too hard to rip on a club willing to give a Canadian kid a chance at a pro career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuzzAndSting Posted January 26, 2019 Share Posted January 26, 2019 1 hour ago, Ottawafan74 said: Article says he grew up in Ottawa playing for Cap U and Gloucester. Doesn’t say the Fury developed him. Some folks here really try too hard to rip on a club willing to give a Canadian kid a chance at a pro career. I agree to a certain extent but as with a lot of what OFFC does it comes across as inauthentic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shamrock Posted January 26, 2019 Share Posted January 26, 2019 6 hours ago, Ottawafan74 said: Article says he grew up in Ottawa playing for Cap U and Gloucester. Doesn’t say the Fury developed him. Some folks here really try too hard to rip on a club willing to give a Canadian kid a chance at a pro career. I said it was great that they gave him a contract, but the point stands: why the false statement? In MLS, homegrown means a specific kind of player, within the CAP system. Outside of MLS, it means developed by the team. Neither applies here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted January 26, 2019 Share Posted January 26, 2019 "Local" or "home town" would have sufficed and avoided making them look like they are pandering. Obviously wouldnt be like the internet users to read too much into something like this though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ottawafan74 Posted January 26, 2019 Share Posted January 26, 2019 6 hours ago, shamrock said: I said it was great that they gave him a contract, but the point stands: why the false statement? In MLS, homegrown means a specific kind of player, within the CAP system. Outside of MLS, it means developed by the team. Neither applies here. https://ottawasun.com/2016/01/29/ottawa-senators-boast-three-homegrown-defencemen/wcm/384a6b7a-ed48-4c87-a48d-1d71bc6d824e Sens didn’t develop Boro, Ceci or Methot. I wouldn’t read too much into the term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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