Aird25 Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 9 minutes ago, toontownman said: Missing Italy off the checklist. Eustaquio to Porto and Tajon to AC Milan please. Wherever they both end up hopefully it's getting minutes. Both huge talents for us imo. I can't afford any more streaming services. These guys need to pick one league Tyson M, Bertuzzi44, Strait Red and 3 others 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrennanFan Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 4 minutes ago, Aird25 said: I can't afford any more streaming services. These guys need to pick one league Hell yeah. Keep it simple. Everyone to Ligue1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sebdeserio Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 Sassuolo would've been perfect but their manager is leaving which always adds uncertainty. TOCanada115 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TGAA_Star Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 30 minutes ago, toontownman said: Missing Italy off the checklist. Eustaquio to Porto and Tajon to AC Milan please. Wherever they both end up hopefully it's getting minutes. Both huge talents for us imo. Tajon I can't see him going to AC Milan unfortunately. Not that I don't want to see him in Serie A I do but I just cannot see it right now. Tajon would be better suited playing in France in Ligue 1 or playing in other leagues like the Bundesliga or Turkish Super Lig just as examples. But for Eustaquio, Porto is the best move for him especially right now. toontownman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gigi riva Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 4 hours ago, Chad_Impact said: Sassualo would be agood spot for him Obinna, TGAA_Star and king1010 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 31 minutes ago, TGAA_Star said: Tajon I can't see him going to AC Milan unfortunately. Not that I don't want to see him in Serie A I do but I just cannot see it right now. Tajon would be better suited playing in France in Ligue 1 or playing in other leagues like the Bundesliga or Turkish Super Lig just as examples. I think PSV in the Netherlands or RB Salzburg in Austria would give him the best chance to succeed. Serie A may be too big of a step up, especially with the biggest clubs like Napoli, AC Milan, Juventus, etc. Sassualo would be interesting though, or Parma, but if you ask me I would prefer the bigger clubs in smaller leagues that I mentioned. dyslexic nam and TGAA_Star 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TGAA_Star Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 3 minutes ago, Obinna said: I think PSV in the Netherlands or RB Salzburg in Austria would give him the best chance to succeed. Serie A may be too big of a step up, especially with the biggest clubs like Napoli, AC Milan, Juventus, etc. Sassualo would be interesting though, or Parma, but if you ask me I would prefer the bigger clubs in smaller leagues that I mentioned. Yeah a big club but in a smaller league would help because if right away he ended up in Serie A, he would be like a fish out of water hardly getting any playing time or even worse step backwards in his development. Put him in the Eredivisie or in Austria, then well now you're talking. PSV I actually like that idea. Shway 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weng Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 21 minutes ago, TGAA_Star said: Yeah a big club but in a smaller league would help because if right away he ended up in Serie A, he would be like a fish out of water hardly getting any playing time or even worse step backwards in his development. Put him in the Eredivisie or in Austria, then well now you're talking. PSV I actually like that idea. I’m not sure why you think this is the case. Weston McKennie went to Juve and has fit in just fine. I think Tajon would do just fine. TGAA_Star 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Weng said: I’m not sure why you think this is the case. Weston McKennie went to Juve and has fit in just fine. I think Tajon would do just fine. I think Tajon would ultimately find his feet at a club like Juventus, for instance. I am not sure he would settle as quickly as McKennie though. I see it more like Reynolds at Roma, who is being brought on slowly. For our purposes, we want Tajon playing as much as possible during this WCQ stretch. Should he move to AC Milan or Juventus, I would ultimately back him to succeed, but it's just a question of how long it would take. It even took Davies a half-season to really begin making an impact at Bayern. Call me a dreamer, but I can actually see Tajon having a Davies-like impact at a massive club, should it play out that way. That said, I think PSV and RB Salzburg are better for Canada, and arguably for Tajon at this stage. Edited May 25, 2021 by Obinna johnyb and Weng 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king1010 Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 46 minutes ago, Weng said: I’m not sure why you think this is the case. Weston McKennie went to Juve and has fit in just fine. I think Tajon would do just fine. McKennie played 3 seasons in the Bundesliga for Schalke before moving to Juve. Not like he moved straight from MLS. Corazon, sebdeserio, baulderdash77 and 4 others 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TGAA_Star Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 2 hours ago, Weng said: I’m not sure why you think this is the case. Weston McKennie went to Juve and has fit in just fine. I think Tajon would do just fine. Yeah he would be probably but in a big club in a smaller league or even a middle of the pack team in an elite league, he would have an even bigger chance to be an even bigger star than what he already is and that's my point. Weng 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dyslexic nam Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 2 hours ago, Obinna said: I think Tajon would ultimately find his feet at a club like Juventus, for instance. I am not sure he would settle as quickly as McKennie though. I see it more like Reynolds at Roma, who is being brought on slowly. For our purposes, we want Tajon playing as much as possible during this WCQ stretch. Should he move to AC Milan or Juventus, I would ultimately back him to succeed, but it's just a question of how long it would take. It even took Davies a half-season to really begin making an impact at Bayern. Call me a dreamer, but I can actually see Tajon having a Davies-like impact at a massive club, should it play out that way. That said, I think PSV and RB Salzburg are better for Canada, and arguably for Tajon at this stage. Assuming he has long term success, I wouldn’t map out his next moves on the basis of having a major impact for us this WC cycle. I think we have the attacking power to do the job without him. If he moves to a big club and happens to be in transition while we are qualifying, I am okay with that. His time will come on 2026. johnyb 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shway Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 2 hours ago, king1010 said: McKennie played 3 seasons in the Bundesliga for Schalke before moving to Juve. Not like he moved straight from MLS. It’s a little different, Mckennie never played a single game in MLS. He went from academy to academy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 26 minutes ago, dyslexic nam said: Assuming he has long term success, I wouldn’t map out his next moves on the basis of having a major impact for us this WC cycle. I think we have the attacking power to do the job without him. If he moves to a big club and happens to be in transition while we are qualifying, I am okay with that. His time will come on 2026. I agree we have attacking power without him, but I still want him at maximum effectiveness during this cycle. That usually means playing games regularly, whether it be in MLS or somewhere like RB Salzburg. We want this guy to be sharp for Canada. There is a chance he moves to a massive club and remains sharp, simply by training with better players. We saw that with Davies before he really broke into the Bayern team. However, generally speaking though, when it comes to players of his age, I think playing games at a lower level is better than not playing at a higher level. The other thing is that I see the 2022 World Cup Qualifying cycle (and hopefully the tournament proper) as his coming out party. He's ready to be a key contributor for Canada, whether off the bench or from the start. Like many others, I am not thinking about 2026 right now. And it's not that I wouldn't be okay with him being in transition (i.e. not really playing) with a big club while we are qualifying, because there is great benefit to him getting a foothold at a very big club. it's just that, for me, a smaller step may be better for Tajon and Canada in the short term. All of that said, I wouldn't go as far as to advise him to reject a move to Juventus, because such opportunities don't come around everyday, and I honestly think he has the qualities to be molded into something special, like Davies was. TGAA_Star 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kadenge Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 The more options we have for WCQ the better. If he goes on a scoring streak in MLS/ Europe he might be the first attacker off the bench for us . That kind of high quality depth is what we need to get to the Octo and the WC TGAA_Star 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpursFlu Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 4 hours ago, Weng said: I’m not sure why you think this is the case. Weston McKennie went to Juve and has fit in just fine. I think Tajon would do just fine. I disagree. Weston Mckennie is a good player but not a Juventus level player. Thats a marketing US market play that signing. All you have to do is see how poor Juventus have been this season sebdeserio 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 3 minutes ago, SpursFlu said: I disagree. Weston Mckennie is a good player but not a Juventus level player. Thats a marketing US market play that signing. All you have to do is see how poor Juventus have been this season McKennie hasn't really looked out of place at Juventus, but you're right they were poor by their standards. Hard to say if it was Weston stepping up or Juventus stepping down. He's gotten more opportunities than I expected, perhaps down to what you're talking about somewhat, but perhaps it's also about tactics. I think I read somewhere how Pirlo wanted someone in the midfield who could chew up ground and play on both sides of the ball. The fact he is American was probably a bonus from a commercial perspective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpursFlu Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 24 minutes ago, Obinna said: McKennie hasn't really looked out of place at Juventus, but you're right they were poor by their standards. Hard to say if it was Weston stepping up or Juventus stepping down. He's gotten more opportunities than I expected, perhaps down to what you're talking about somewhat, but perhaps it's also about tactics. I think I read somewhere how Pirlo wanted someone in the midfield who could chew up ground and play on both sides of the ball. The fact he is American was probably a bonus from a commercial perspective. Anyone can play for anyone. But Weston Mckennie is not on that level. He's a SerieA or Bundesliga player, a decent one at that. But.. nobody is winning either league with Weston Mckennie in their starting 11 LeoH037 and Obinna 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macksam Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, SpursFlu said: I disagree. Weston Mckennie is a good player but not a Juventus level player. Thats a marketing US market play that signing. All you have to do is see how poor Juventus have been this season I didn't pay attention too closely but from what I saw, I thought he looked the part. Maybe I only saw him at his best. Edited May 26, 2021 by Macksam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red card Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 McKennie looked good in the first part of the season but faded in the past couple of months. He played most matches but wasn't a regular starter. Minutes wise, he played about 50% of the time in Serie A and about 60% of CL minutes. His goal & shots stats are quite good, average defensively and weak passing and possession vs other midfielders. Maybe it was the covid get together he organized but he fell out of Pirlo's good books towards the end of the season. Some talk of Juventus being open to selling him if a good offer came along and some US commentators musing that a Pirlo firing would be good for McKennie. So, I would say he wasn't out of place in Serie A but not up to Juventus standards of the past. johnyb 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
costarg Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 Well I happen to be surrounded by Juve fans. Most agreed it was a marketing thing early on, but he convinced as the season progressed. Lots are saying he was one of the very few bright spots in a disappointing season. That's quite an accomplishment when you consider their roster and an unproven rookie coach. USA looks really good on paper and they're young. Corazon, Cheeta, johnyb and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpursFlu Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 I like to hate on American players, im totally willing to admit that. But if Weston McKennie was from Ghana or Romania not a chance in hell Juventus would have even considered signing him. Just saying but he is a decent player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TGAA_Star Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 12 hours ago, Obinna said: I agree we have attacking power without him, but I still want him at maximum effectiveness during this cycle. That usually means playing games regularly, whether it be in MLS or somewhere like RB Salzburg. We want this guy to be sharp for Canada. There is a chance he moves to a massive club and remains sharp, simply by training with better players. We saw that with Davies before he really broke into the Bayern team. However, generally speaking though, when it comes to players of his age, I think playing games at a lower level is better than not playing at a higher level. The other thing is that I see the 2022 World Cup Qualifying cycle (and hopefully the tournament proper) as his coming out party. He's ready to be a key contributor for Canada, whether off the bench or from the start. Like many others, I am not thinking about 2026 right now. And it's not that I wouldn't be okay with him being in transition (i.e. not really playing) with a big club while we are qualifying, because there is great benefit to him getting a foothold at a very big club. it's just that, for me, a smaller step may be better for Tajon and Canada in the short term. All of that said, I wouldn't go as far as to advise him to reject a move to Juventus, because such opportunities don't come around everyday, and I honestly think he has the qualities to be molded into something special, like Davies was. I agree with this sentiment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TGAA_Star Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 12 hours ago, Kadenge said: The more options we have for WCQ the better. If he goes on a scoring streak in MLS/ Europe he might be the first attacker off the bench for us . That kind of high quality depth is what we need to get to the Octo and the WC Yes I most certainly agree which is why I definitely hope we bring him along for the Aruba and Suriname matches if not for depth off the bench Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruffian Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 3 hours ago, TGAA_Star said: I agree with this sentiment Most people use the heart reaction emoji for this. Bdog, N1ckbr0wn, dyslexic nam and 5 others 2 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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