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24 minutes ago, baulderdash77 said:

Well he’s cap tied to us now.  CONCACAF Nations League is an official competition and he played for us last game so we don’t have to worry about losing him to Mexico.

He’s played 110 minutes in the last 12 months so I wouldn’t say he’s ready yet.   

Could have been clearer - I meant they are calling for him to be put into the Cruz Azul first team.  And securing a spot on a Liga MX teamsheet would pretty much propel him into the discussion of our top mids.

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11 minutes ago, PopePouri said:

He's probably our best defender as well, so it's about balance. David on one end and Davies on the other.

You mean he is our best 1 on 1 defender.

David makes our team offense better, but Davies does not make our team defense better.

However, Davies (like David) makes our team offense better. Together they can be devastating.

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I don’t know what player you guys are watching but it’s not the one I’ve followed since he was 15. I love the kid and I think he has a huge future but he’s never been this offensive juggernaut that some make him out to be. He could be in the future, but as of yet he hasn’t shown the creativity, decision making or execution that some are touting as his strengths. David is much better in these regards

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45 minutes ago, Aird25 said:

I don’t know what player you guys are watching but it’s not the one I’ve followed since he was 15. I love the kid and I think he has a huge future but he’s never been this offensive juggernaut that some make him out to be. He could be in the future, but as of yet he hasn’t shown the creativity, decision making or execution that some are touting as his strengths. David is much better in these regards

Uuhhhm, did you watch his last season with the Whitecaps? He was dominant offensively, as a 17 year old! Not just scoring goals, but taking on defenders, creating space, passing, etc.

 

 

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6 hours ago, Bertuzzi44 said:

Uuhhhm, did you watch his last season with the Whitecaps? He was dominant offensively, as a 17 year old! Not just scoring goals, but taking on defenders, creating space, passing, etc.

 

 

I did, and he was brilliant on the ball but the final product was often pretty rough whether crossing or shooting. He’s obviously brilliant and has improved since being at Bayern but he isn’t an offensive juggernaut in terms of final product still. I’d want him on the wing still just because of his skill on the ball compared to our other wingers.

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1 hour ago, Aird25 said:

I don’t know what player you guys are watching but it’s not the one I’ve followed since he was 15. I love the kid and I think he has a huge future but he’s never been this offensive juggernaut that some make him out to be. He could be in the future, but as of yet he hasn’t shown the creativity, decision making or execution that some are touting as his strengths. David is much better in these regards

David is way ahead of Davies when it comes to those things, but Davies is way better than David when it comes to speed, strength and dribbles. I think they compliment each other and therefore should play together further up field. We don't need to choose, we can have both in attack. They play to each others strengths, we've seen it against the USA.

I don't hold it against Davies that he doesn't have David's creativity, decision making or execution. David is a freak when it comes to these things. He plays like a 28 year old vet. Players like him are extremely rare at that age.

Conversely, I don't hold it against David that he is not a freak like Davies when it comes to speed, strength and dribbling.

Compared to other players his age, David is still fast and relatively strong and he can dribble too. And Davies still has good decision making and execution for his age, he doesn't have to be as good as David in those regards to still be very good. 

Both payers should be playing together as much as possible. It can blossom into the best forward combination in concacaf.

Different styles, but I dream of these guys having Suarez-Cavanni level of partnership, just in terns of how dominating they could be. Both are on the path to becoming world class players anyways. We should be giving them as many reps together as we can. It will bring the best out of both of them and would give Canada a world class strike duo any team would be forced to respect.

 

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Watched the end of the first half and the entire second. Missed his giveaway that caused the first goal, so I can't comment about that. As for the play I saw, it was an okay performance. Not his best or worst. The whole team never looked up to it and Davies is a very young player, so as the team goes, he goes. It was the same against Dortmund, the whole team was on fire and he fed off of that. 

Leverkusen came to play today and deserved the win.

David has been linked to Bayer Leverkusen and I think it would be a good challenge for him. They ran their socks off and I believe I heard the commentator say they run the most out of every team in the Bundesliga. I have noticed that David is deadly on the break and he does a ton of running for Gent, so perhaps he can fit in. Leon Bailey came there from Belgian football at David's age (Genk), so I think he could also make the transition.

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Davies turned the ball over at midfield on the left touchline. Leverkusen played 3-4 quick passes and Bailey ran clear past Bayern's RB as if he was standing still. Phonz should have done better, but none of his teammates did him any favours to bail him out. I'd put that goal 50% on Davies, at most. Bayern's right side **** the bed again for Leverkusen's second.

Phonz also had a few great moves going forward, and should have had an assist, but for Gnabry, I think, missing a sitter.

I fell asleep at some point during the 2nd half (4:30 am kick off), so can't comment further.

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I watched a stream and it wasn't Davies finest game with Bayern but he was far from their worst starter.  Gnabry's miss at the end of the match when he was in clear was borderline unprofessional.  Also, Bayern kept going down the right side in their buildup and the few times the attack went down Davies side, he looked way more dangerous than Pavard.

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Just saw the highlights. Davies set up a couple shots, but almost all the highlights are Bayern attacking and he wasn't too involved. Not sure how anyone can say Leverkusen deserved the win? Munich hit the pist 4 times, Lewandoski had at least 3 amazing chances and there was numerous other opportunities. Bayern was by far the better team.

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10 hours ago, Stryker911 said:

Just saw the highlights. Davies set up a couple shots, but almost all the highlights are Bayern attacking and he wasn't too involved. Not sure how anyone can say Leverkusen deserved the win? Munich hit the pist 4 times, Lewandoski had at least 3 amazing chances and there was numerous other opportunities. Bayern was by far the better team.

Leverkusen keeper also made a number of miraculous saves.

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12 hours ago, Stryker911 said:

Just saw the highlights. Davies set up a couple shots, but almost all the highlights are Bayern attacking and he wasn't too involved. Not sure how anyone can say Leverkusen deserved the win? Munich hit the pist 4 times, Lewandoski had at least 3 amazing chances and there was numerous other opportunities. Bayern was by far the better team.

In terms of failing to take your chances, Bayern deserved to lose. Leverkusen took their few chances. It wasn't one way traffic until later in the game. Even though Bayern produced way more chances, it was a pretty back and forth game. For most ofthe game Leverkusen never really let Bayern settle into a rythem.

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https://www.bundesliga.com/en/bundesliga/news/alphonso-davies-best-of-his-generation-hasan-salihamidzic-bayern-munich-canada-8418

"We signed Alphonso Davies a year ago because we saw him as one of the best players of his generation," Salihamidizic told Munich's Abendzeitung. "We're delighted that this is now being confirmed with every game he plays." - Bayern Munich Sporting Director Hasan Salihamidzic

I just wanted to take this quote out and post it here, seems everyone at Bayern is extremely impressed.

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Alphonso has a solid first half vs. Gladbach.  Unfortunately an injury forced the introduction of Perisic on the left who is killing a lot of the play (inaccurate passing / slow to move ball).

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Davies a bit disoriented at times defending in the second half, always seemed to provide an option to move the ball forward quickly on the wing, but overall not as dangerous late on as Bayern lose 2-1 on a PK coming from a horrible slide challenge from the sub Martinez in the penalty area.   He had a chance in injury time to hit a one-time sitter from just outside the box, but took a first touch and got his shot blocked.  

Alphonso has performed admirably in this prolonged starting stint, but I expect after the winter break he will lose his starting spot when CB’s return from injury and they move Alaba back to LB.  Hopefully he can work hard in training, continue to impress when given opportunities and start to develop some greater offensive threat.

Note: the Fox commentators seemed very impressed with Davies and his electric pace  and at one point brought up the same point being thrown around here - potential to become a star LB but should not be “wasted” at LB for his country.

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Didn't see a replay but it looked like he drew a foul in the corner late... No call and they go the other way and get the penalty. I hope when the defense gets heathy he gets a shot at wing . He looks more dangerous than Coman. Watching him play lb is boring... Let phonzie run!!

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Whoscored rated him as the top player for Bayern against Gladbach. He's had one of the best ratings for the team (top 3) in most of his starts this year. His seasonal rating of 7.36 is currently third best for Bayern.

I always take these types of analyses with a grain of salt but it should be noted that as a teenager, playing out of position, he's ranked as one of the best players on one of the best teams in the world!

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