cronaldo7 Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 3 hours ago, SkuseisLoose said: I think he was sorta to blame for the second as he lost his man, who ended up putting it in. Disagree. It was a great build-up by Frankfurt and there was a wicked deflection straight to the Frankfurt player at the backpost. I wouldn't call that losing your man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SthMelbRed Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 14 hours ago, dyslexic nam said: Partially culpable for the 5th goal. Should have marked the guy to prevent the tap in rather than try to protect the line. I disagree on this. Davies is just learning to be a defender. One of the general rules for defenders is to immediately get back to cover the line when the 'keeper charges out of the goal. If you make a list of culpable players on the 5th goal, Alaba and Neuer are much closer to the top of that list than Phonz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestHamCanadianinOxford Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 Watched the playback this morning after only catching bits yesterday (made the mistake of actually watching my club's game). I take a somewhat middle of the road view: I think he needs to continue to learn to be a defender - the right instincts are not all there yet - but he was certainly not the worst player in a poor Bayern side. Partially down to the man disadvantage and partially down to what got them the red in the first place - being sloppy and open the counter - Davies was left out on an island a few times. He had a choice between two bad options or covering two men and that helped make a couple of the goals at least. (But I probably blame his body position on the own goal last game more than anything he did in this one.) No one deserves a lot credit in that performance, so we will how things are going forward. That he played was great and hopefully the manager can take a balanced view and continue to have faith in him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowcrash Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 From a Bayern forum: Bayern & Germany@iMiaSanMia Alphonso Davies against Frankfurt: 99 touches 60 passes 86.7% pass accuracy 1 key pass 2 shots 1 hit woodwork 3 dribbles 10 ground duels won 1 aerial 5 tackles 2 interceptions 3 clearances 7.9/10 (highest rated Bayern player) johnyb 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuicyHam Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 11 minutes ago, Snowcrash said: From a Bayern forum: Bayern & Germany@iMiaSanMia Alphonso Davies against Frankfurt: 99 touches 60 passes 86.7% pass accuracy 1 key pass 2 shots 1 hit woodwork 3 dribbles 10 ground duels won 1 aerial 5 tackles 2 interceptions 3 clearances 7.9/10 (highest rated Bayern player) In his starts has he not been one of Bayern's top rated players each time? Outside of the own goal and maybe some dodgy defending(as a teenager) he hasn't contributed to Bayern playing so poor these last few games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 Kovac is out Obinna 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonovision Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 43 minutes ago, narduch said: Kovac is out Not so long ago people were saying that Davies needed to go out on loan because he wasn't in Kovac's plans. Now people are worried about the reverse situation. I'm confident enough in Davies' talent to believe he'll continue to make appearances for Bayern no matter who is hired as manager. Obinna 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goleafs67 Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 https://fcbayern.com/en/amp/news/2019/11/fc-bayern-relieve-head-coach-niko-kovac-of-his-duties Assistant coach in charge "until further notice". Hopefully he rates Phonzie / his recent performances when the injured starters are healthy again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colliedor Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 So, with Kovac gone, do you think they will still stick to the plan with Davies? I hope the new manager just plays him as a winger for a change. I think they're wasting their time with him at LB. Obinna and Kadenge 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SthMelbRed Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 All you want is a new manager coming in who has an open mind and will select the team on merit, rather than reputation. Then, it's all on Phonz to take care of his business. Stouffvillain and apbsmith 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acid-Tone Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 1 hour ago, Colliedor said: So, with Kovac gone, do you think they will still stick to the plan with Davies? I hope the new manager just plays him as a winger for a change. I think they're wasting their time with him at LB. The new coach will put out a lineup that he thinks will give the team their best chance to win. Period. With their current roster makeup that may very well mean more time at LB. Which, regardless of whether it's his best position or not, is still much better than sitting on the bench. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertuzzi44 Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 A new coach will come in and want results immediately. I don't think that bodes well for a relatively unproven 19 year old. But we'll see! Obinna and Club Linesman 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 17 minutes ago, Bertuzzi44 said: A new coach will come in and want results immediately. I don't think that bodes well for a relatively unproven 19 year old. But we'll see! Maybe the new coach wants to send a message to the underperforming "pro's" by playing the youth. Who knows. Too early to tell either way. costarg and Obinna 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PopePouri Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 2 hours ago, Acid-Tone said: The new coach will put out a lineup that he thinks will give the team their best chance to win. Period. With their current roster makeup that may very well mean more time at LB. Which, regardless of whether it's his best position or not, is still much better than sitting on the bench. Maybe it's time to get a little more open minded that he can be really good (possibly world class) LB. He has all the physical tools, just needs more tactical understanding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aird25 Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 I’m a little surprised by all the pessimism and concern. Davies has played 270 + minutes for Bayern in the last week, and he’s been very good in that spell. He’s proven he can play at this level. That’s huge! Obinna, cronaldo7, johnyb and 3 others 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertuzzi44 Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 5 hours ago, toontownman said: Maybe the new coach wants to send a message to the underperforming "pro's" by playing the youth. That card usually gets played later. But yeah, who knows. Hopefully whoever they bring in rates Davies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestHamCanadianinOxford Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 (edited) Red and white specs off, there is bad and good news. The bad news is that whatever he has done individually, the team has not played well defensively or in central midfield recently (when he has been playing). The good news is that they have few other options at the back. Kimmich playing at right back, with Pavard and Albala in the centre and Davies at left back is essentially all that is available for the next league game. Boateng will be back after a game or in Champions league but he is looking slow these days. It would be amazing (for a lot of reasons) if they could somehow convince (and are willing to pay for) Pochettino to come but I think ten Hag would be also be great for Davies. Just please, please not Mourinho. (I would love Allegri if I were a Bayern fan but I don't necessarily as merely a Davies one) Edited November 4, 2019 by WestHamCanadianinOxford Corazon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad_Impact Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 Starting in UCL! lazlo_80, dyslexic nam, Bdog and 7 others 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bdog Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 Just now, Chad_Impact said: Starting in UCL! 4 starts in a row! Sucks that I won’t be able to watch it until later. apbsmith, lazlo_80 and N1ckbr0wn 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N1ckbr0wn Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 10 minutes ago, Chad_Impact said: Starting in UCL! Another look at LM! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PopePouri Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 Coman, Gnabry and Lewandowski are all on the pitch. He's at LB. N1ckbr0wn 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N1ckbr0wn Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 1 minute ago, PopePouri said: Coman, Gnabry and Lewandowski are all on the pitch. He's at LB. Ahh true, forgot they have Alaba as a CB rn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acid-Tone Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 On 11/3/2019 at 4:39 PM, Bertuzzi44 said: A new coach will come in and want results immediately. I don't think that bodes well for a relatively unproven 19 year old. But we'll see! You were saying something? 😛 Obinna 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ansem Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 16 minutes ago, PopePouri said: Coman, Gnabry and Lewandowski are all on the pitch. He's at LB. 15 minutes ago, N1ckbr0wn said: Ahh true, forgot they have Alaba as a CB rn johnyb 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PopePouri Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 They seem to have more faith in him that we expect. They could have brought Thiago or Tolisso into midfield and play Alaba, Pavard, Martinez, and Kimmich across the back four. Kadenge 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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