VinceA Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/57266045 Will be competing with Davies at LB. WestHamCanadianinOxford and TGAA_Star 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestHamCanadianinOxford Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 32 minutes ago, VinceA said: https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/57266045 Will be competing with Davies at LB. Will be an interesting looking defence. Alaba and Boateng gone. Upamecano coming in. Nianzou maybe healthy. Sule remaining pretty slow in my book (which can be mitigated somewhat by the next paragraph.) Loanees returning - no idea if they will have any impact. The new coach played 3 at the back a lot (though not exclusively). Hernandez seems perfect for the left-sided centre back in that. 3 at the back and wing backs really does raise questions about people like Sane, Coman and Gnabry, though. Fun to watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 The face on Americans when Richards is making the game-day roster, but his name is Omar. DavemTFC, WestHamCanadianinOxford, LeoH037 and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeoH037 Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 7 hours ago, VinceA said: https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/57266045 Will be competing with Davies at LB. not necessarily, there's a good chance Nagelsmann plays Davies in more of an attacking role Ivan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikmacdo Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 7 hours ago, WestHamCanadianinOxford said: Will be an interesting looking defence. Alaba and Boateng gone. Upamecano coming in. Nianzou maybe healthy. Sule remaining pretty slow in my book (which can be mitigated somewhat by the next paragraph.) Loanees returning - no idea if they will have any impact. The new coach played 3 at the back a lot (though not exclusively). Hernandez seems perfect for the left-sided centre back in that. 3 at the back and wing backs really does raise questions about people like Sane, Coman and Gnabry, though. Fun to watch. Sule isn't slow,he just appears to move slower due to his fridge like body but he was clocked at impressive speeds this year. They could play a 3-4-3 to accomodate the wingers. h coach, Obinna, NVsoccer and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
costarg Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 14 hours ago, Mikmacdo said: Sule isn't slow,he just appears to move slower due to his fridge like body but he was clocked at impressive speeds this year. They could play a 3-4-3 to accomodate the wingers. If thats the case, it'll get harder and harder for CANMNT to avoid the 3-4-3 or 3-5-2 formation with Davies and Laryea. Its such a natural fit. TGAA_Star 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 Davies is driving around Paris at the moment as he was just on Instagram live. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestHamCanadianinOxford Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 14 hours ago, Mikmacdo said: Sule isn't slow,he just appears to move slower due to his fridge like body but he was clocked at impressive speeds this year. They could play a 3-4-3 to accomodate the wingers. In my opinion, Sule can run in a straight line pretty fast but from what I have seen he reacts slowly to developing situations still and is slower off the mark because of basic physics. The thing about 343 is that you rarely see the attacking three as real wingers. You have the centre forward but the other two are often not speedster wide players but more cultured - think Hazzard and Willian in Conte's Chelsea. Ageless Muller is almost closer. You don't need the width in theory because of the wing backs and if your forwards run wide you have a lack of bodies to cross/pass to inside because your two midfielders (which is all you really have) need to stay back a little. Those midfielders have to be really fast and/or physical (Matic and Kante in Chelsea's case) or a 343 opens up the centre of the park to all comers. Kimmich gets around but I don't thing you would consider him a destroyer and less so Goretzka etc. Also if you look Nagelsmann's Liepzig - I can only say from their Champions League games and against Bayern - but he rarely uses real attacking wingers again . A lot of midfielders spend some time wide but usually has three who set up in the centre of the park. And I said interesting to see where he goes with this team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TGAA_Star Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 2 hours ago, costarg said: If thats the case, it'll get harder and harder for CANMNT to avoid the 3-4-3 or 3-5-2 formation with Davies and Laryea. Its such a natural fit. Rather go 3-5-2 then in that regard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearcatSA Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 (edited) On 5/28/2021 at 8:11 AM, TGAA_Star said: Rather go 3-5-2 then in that regard Will we see this again in Haiti on Saturday? (I just wanted to bump his thread to the first page ;)) Edited June 11, 2021 by BearcatSA TGAA_Star 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TGAA_Star Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 5 hours ago, BearcatSA said: Will we see this again in Haiti on Saturday? (I just wanted to bump his thread to the first page ;)) Who knows but if Canada was smart, they should because you go with what formations work and it worked against Suriname Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PiedPilko Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 No lengthy discussion about this yet, but I think it's worth mentioning: Haiti completely shut Davies down in the first leg. Part of it was the unpredictable pitch, but he wasn't winning any of his 1on1's, and it was difficult to watch. They just pinned 3 guys to him at all times, and there wasn't much he could do. I think we need a better response when a team fully commits to stopping Davies. An Observer, narduch, Ruffian and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 2 minutes ago, PiedPilko said: No lengthy discussion about this yet, but I think it's worth mentioning: Haiti completely shut Davies down in the first leg. Part of it was the unpredictable pitch, but he wasn't winning any of his 1on1's, and it was difficult to watch. They just pinned 3 guys to him at all times, and there wasn't much he could do. I think we need a better response when a team fully commits to stopping Davies. Good point. Going to be interesting to see how we adapt on Tuesday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearcatSA Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 6 minutes ago, PiedPilko said: No lengthy discussion about this yet, but I think it's worth mentioning: Haiti completely shut Davies down in the first leg. Part of it was the unpredictable pitch, but he wasn't winning any of his 1on1's, and it was difficult to watch. They just pinned 3 guys to him at all times, and there wasn't much he could do. I think we need a better response when a team fully commits to stopping Davies. Response? Phonsie, just stick to the quick passing and pick your spots to take guys on. You're doing too much work on the ball. Ruffian, longlugan, Unnamed Trialist and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeoH037 Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 1 hour ago, PiedPilko said: No lengthy discussion about this yet, but I think it's worth mentioning: Haiti completely shut Davies down in the first leg. Part of it was the unpredictable pitch, but he wasn't winning any of his 1on1's, and it was difficult to watch. They just pinned 3 guys to him at all times, and there wasn't much he could do. I think we need a better response when a team fully commits to stopping Davies. And in doing so left their right flank exposed, where all our best chances, and goal, came from. On a better pitch guarantee Davies gets away more frequently, but i agree, we need to find a way to solve Davies getting tripled team on these sort of choppy games baulderdash77 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TGAA_Star Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 I wasn't really even able to catch this game but was Cavallini playing? If he wasn't, then we might wanna play him in the 2nd leg I'm just saying dyslexic nam and longlugan 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A_Gagne Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 Davies has been double teamed before, beaten up before, but probably not both on such a shitty pitch. We'll see how that goes for them Tuesday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheeta Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 It's going to be fun come Tuesday. Like playing on a totally different planet. Think more than a few players are going to shine. canadasoccer20 and dyslexic nam 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kadenge Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 watching the Euros on those beautiful fields vs the Haiti pitch brought a tear to my eyes. king1010, johnyb, Cheeta and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpursFlu Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 14 hours ago, TGAA_Star said: I wasn't really even able to catch this game but was Cavallini playing? If he wasn't, then we might wanna play him in the 2nd leg I'm just saying Lucas Semenko Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheeta Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 1 hour ago, Kadenge said: watching the Euros on those beautiful fields vs the Haiti pitch brought a tear to my eyes. And a wonderful one this PM between Holland and Ukraine, if movement, flow and trickery in soccer holds an appeal to your eye. Better days if we win through. And credit where credit is due, BMO is a proper playing field for the last stage of World Cup Qualifying. Saputo too! BC Place? Not so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvroArrow Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 Having watched Davies in the Suriname and first Haiti game, I have noticed a trend in his game that seems to be a universal characteristic amongst many 20 year olds who like to dribble and are good at it: they start focusing more on seeing how far they can take their dribbling instead of making the smart pass. "I beat two guys last time, now let's see if I can beat three.". Passing starts to be ignored as they attempt to dribble by one more guy. The side benefit of being a great dribbler is that you suck in defenders which leaves your teammates open. He has had some great runs, but I'd like to see him pass a bit more. Corazon, lamptern, An Observer and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Aird25 Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 On 6/14/2021 at 10:14 AM, AvroArrow said: Having watched Davies in the Suriname and first Haiti game, I have noticed a trend in his game that seems to be a universal characteristic amongst many 20 year olds who like to dribble and are good at it: they start focusing more on seeing how far they can take their dribbling instead of making the smart pass. "I beat two guys last time, now let's see if I can beat three.". Passing starts to be ignored as they attempt to dribble by one more guy. The side benefit of being a great dribbler is that you suck in defenders which leaves your teammates open. He has had some great runs, but I'd like to see him pass a bit more. He doesn't play like that at all with Bayern, and I don't think he should in the next round if he's playing as a LB or LWB. The US punished us when Davies tried that against them, and so has Haiti and other teams at times. If we want him to be responsible for generating that much offense through the dribble then we need Adekugbe behind him, but I still think Davies is more valuable for us coming from a deeper position. He just needs to be more selective about it. That being said, Adekugbe has really impressed me recently, and I think he compliments Davies well in a more advanced position Ivan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestHamCanadianinOxford Posted June 19, 2021 Share Posted June 19, 2021 Germans currently conducting a clinic on how to use wingbacks (and using Gnabry upfront). Nagelsmann - and Davies - taking notes, hopefully. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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