SkuseisLoose Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 13 minutes ago, Jith12 said: As a Leafs fan, I can attest. We've been rebuilding since 1967. Maybe Tavares and Matthews can carry you guys. dyslexic nam and Jith12 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 2 hours ago, SkuseisLoose said: The rebuild takes time Tell that to Vegas! romurra 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jith12 Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 5 minutes ago, Robert said: Tell that to Vegas! For them it wasn't a rebuild, it was just build! Kent and Vic 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, Jith12 said: For them it wasn't a rebuild, it was just build! Nevertheless, it did not take Vegas any time at all to build a winner, so that fact by itself defeats the argument that it takes time to rebuild. It could take time, but it also doesn't have to take any time. Edited July 2, 2018 by Robert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuzzAndSting Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 1 hour ago, Robert said: Nevertheless, it did not take Vegas any time at all to build a winner, so that fact by itself defeats the argument that it takes time to rebuild. It could take time, but it also doesn't have to take any time. You’ve just proved you know less about hockey than the very little amount you know about soccer. Vic and longlugan 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 (edited) 28 minutes ago, BuzzAndSting said: You’ve just proved you know less about hockey than the very little amount you know about soccer. Although what little I know about hockey and soccer, it is still an indisputable fact that internationally-speaking Canada remains irrelevant in both sports. 25 years since a Canadian club won the Stanley Cup. 32 years since Canada's one and only World Cup qualification. Edited July 2, 2018 by Robert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 (edited) For the record, until BuzzAndSting proved how little I know about soccer, did you guys know that since Canada qualified for its one and only World Cup Final in 1986, 68 countries have had a lot more soccer fun than we have: 1) Algeria - 2010, 2014 2) Angola - 2006 3) Argentina - 1990, 1994, 1998, 2002, 2006, 2010, 2014, 2018 4) Australia - 2006, 2010, 2014, 2018 5) Austria - 1990, 1998 6) Belgium - 1990, 1994, 1998, 2002, 2014, 2018 7) Bolivia - 1994 ? Bosnia & Herzegovina - 2014 9) Brazil - 1990, 1994, 1998, 2002, 2006, 2010, 2014, 2018 10) Bulgaria - 1994, 1998 11) Cameroon - 1990, 1994, 1998, 2002, 2010, 2014 12) Chili- 1998, 2010, 2014 13) China - 2002 14) Colombia - 1990, 1994, 1998, 2014, 2018 15) Costa Rica - 1990, 2002, 2006, 2014, 2018 16) Croatia - 1998, 2002, 2006, 2014, 2018 17) Czechoslovakia - 1990, 2006 18) Denmark - 1998, 2002, 2010, 2018 19) Ecuador - 2002, 2006, 2014 20) Egypt - 1990, 2018 21) England - 1990, 1998, 2002, 2006, 2010, 2014, 2018 22) France - 1998, 2002, 2006, 2010, 2014, 2018 23) Germany - 1990, 1994, 1998, 2002, 2006, 2010, 2014, 2018 24) Ghana - 2006, 2010, 2014 25) Greece - 1994, 2010, 2014 26) Honduras - 2014 27) Iceland - 2018 28) Italy - 1990, 1994, 1998, 2002, 2006, 2010, 2014 29) Iran - 1998, 2006, 2014, 2018 30) Ivory Coast - 2006, 2010, 2014 31) Jamaica - 1998 32) Japan - 1998, 2002, 2006, 2010, 2014, 2018 33) Mexico - 1994, 1998, 2002, 2006, 2014, 2018 34) Morocco - 1994, 1998, 2018 35) Netherlands - 1990, 1994, 1998, 2006, 2010, 2014 36) New Zealand - 2010 37) Nigeria - 1994, 1998, 2002, 2010, 2014, 2018 38) North Korea - 2010 39) Norway - 1994, 1998 40) Panama - 2018 41) Paraguay - 1998, 2002, 2006, 2010 42) Peru - 2018 43) Poland - 2002, 2006, 2018 44) Portugal - 2002, 2006, 2010, 2014, 2018 45) Qatar - 2022 46) Republic of Ireland - 1990, 1994, 2002 47) Romania - 1990, 1994, 1998 48) Russia - 1990, 1994, 2002, 2014, 2018 49) Saudi Arabia - 1994, 1998, 2002, 2006, 2018 50) Scotland - 1990, 1998 51) Senegal - 2002, 2018 52) Serbia & Montenegro - 2006, 2010, 2018 53) Slovakia - 2010 54) Slovenia - 2002, 2010 55) South Africa - 1998, 2002, 2010 56) South Korea - 1990, 1994, 1998, 2002, 2006, 2010, 2014, 2018 57) Spain - 1990, 1994, 1998, 2002, 2006, 2010, 2014, 2018 58) Sweden - 1990, 1994, 2002, 2006, 2018 59) Switzerland - 1994, 2006, 2010, 2014, 2018 60) Togo - 2006 61) Trinidad & Tobago - 2006 62) Tunisia - 1998, 2002, 2006, 2018 63) Turkey - 2002 64) Ukraine - 2006 65) United Arab Emirates - 1990 66) United States - 1990, 1994, 1998, 2002, 2006, 2010, 2014 67) Uruguay - 1990, 2002, 2010, 2014, 2018 68) Yugoslavia - 1990, 1998 Edited July 2, 2018 by Robert johnyb 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 (edited) I ask you again: Is it not high time that the CSA reinvents itself. 40 years of sitting on the sidelines and then piggybacking their way back into the World Cup Final courtesy of the United States and Mexico is no way to run soccer in Canada. We deserve much better! Edited July 2, 2018 by Robert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tg11 Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 3 hours ago, Robert said: I ask you again: Is it not high time that the CSA reinvents itself. 40 years of sitting on the sidelines and then piggybacking their way back into the World Cup Final courtesy of the United States and Mexico is no way to run soccer in Canada. We deserve much better! Yes Canada definitely needs to if it even hopes to have a chance in 2026 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoginess Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 It's just frustrating to see that there are countries that don't even exist anymore that have seen World Cup action more recently than Canada Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tg11 Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 20 minutes ago, Yoginess said: It's just frustrating to see that there are countries that don't even exist anymore that have seen World Cup action more recently than Canada I know right and Canada has the talent to at least qualify for tournaments especially World Cups but they cannot seem to get it together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grande Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 On 7/1/2018 at 4:50 PM, Robert said: With England intentionally throwing its 2026 World Cup qualifying campaign to avoid going to Qatar, it will also mark the first time in history that a World Cup champion will not defend its title at the following World Cup, as England is gonna kick Russia's ass in Moscow, on July 15th. 1930: Uruguay wins the World Cup. 1934: Uruguay refuses to attend the World Cup in protest. Blackdude and jpg75 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tg11 Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 Either way Canada isn't necessarily doing enough to inspire confidence at least not right now but obviously over time that can change Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 2 hours ago, grande said: 1930: Uruguay wins the World Cup. 1934: Uruguay refuses to attend the World Cup in protest. Thanks for the correction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tg11 Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 But I will be surprised if Canada even makes the Hex much less even qualifies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Copes Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 On 6/29/2018 at 11:23 PM, Tg11 said: I pose the question to all of you, do you support a Winter World Cup especially since Qatar 2022 is not going to be a summer event in the next 4 years? Apparently the tournament is set to take place from November 21st, 2022 to December 18th, 2022. However, that being said I wonder then how that is gonna affect the domestic leagues around the world such as MLS, La Liga, Italian Serie A, English Premier League, Bundesliga, French Ligue 1, Dutch Eredivisie, etc.? Personally, do I support a Winter World Cup? No I don't. The FIFA World Cup has always been a summer showpiece and never in its history has it been a winter showcase. FIFA apparently moved it to winter in the first place because of scorching hot weather in the Middle East specifically Qatar during the summer and that during the winter it is like average summer weather there. Not to mention it conflicts with the domestic leagues all over the world just as they are in the middle of their seasons and players all over the world with their clubs once they come back from Qatar would only have a short rest break before they would have to continue their season. It just doesn't seem right or ideal for that matter. So I ask all of you just what is your stance on this? The winter World Cup is annoying, but not the end of the world for me. To be honest, I like the idea of the World Cup being hosted in different regions of the world. A Middle Eastern World Cup is an exciting prospect, and one that, in theory, I support. The issue I have with the Qatar World Cup is actually the apparently horrible conditions occurring during stadium construction. The violation of human rights that keeps being reported is troubling. THAT is the reason I won't be attending 2022, even if Canada were to make it. And I've said since I started watching soccer that I would follow Canada to any World Cup they participate in. Will I watch the games on television? Probably. Or maybe I'll stream them illegally to avoid being counted for the ad dollars. But I won't be travelling there and spending my money. Is that a perfect stance? Of course not. However as someone who visited Brazil and had an amazing time, I want to support the players I love without supporting Qatar. So yeah, I don't mind a Middle Eastern World Cup. It's not winter that bothers me, but something else. grande 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 3 hours ago, Tg11 said: But I will be surprised if Canada even makes the Hex much less even qualifies I guess that brings us to what is next on the agenda as far as Canada and the World Cup is concerned. We have approximately 6 months to wait before CONCACAF will hold the Preliminary FIFA 2022 World Cup Qualifying Draw. For the 2018 World Cup that draw was held on January 12, 2015, in Miami. This involved the CONCACAF nations ranked 22 to 35. Has Canada dropped into this group yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tg11 Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 10 minutes ago, Robert said: I guess that brings us to what is next on the agenda as far as Canada and the World Cup is concerned. We have approximately 6 months to wait before CONCACAF will hold the Preliminary FIFA 2022 World Cup Qualifying Draw. For the 2018 World Cup that draw was held on January 12, 2015, in Miami. This involved the CONCACAF nations ranked 22 to 35. Has Canada dropped into this group yet? I know right. Canada has less than 6 months to find out just what their fate will be but then again wouldn't the CONCACAF Nations League determine all of that since it ties into 2022 Qualifiers no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tg11 Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 13 minutes ago, Copes said: The winter World Cup is annoying, but not the end of the world for me. To be honest, I like the idea of the World Cup being hosted in different regions of the world. A Middle Eastern World Cup is an exciting prospect, and one that, in theory, I support. The issue I have with the Qatar World Cup is actually the apparently horrible conditions occurring during stadium construction. The violation of human rights that keeps being reported is troubling. THAT is the reason I won't be attending 2022, even if Canada were to make it. And I've said since I started watching soccer that I would follow Canada to any World Cup they participate in. Will I watch the games on television? Probably. Or maybe I'll stream them illegally to avoid being counted for the ad dollars. But I won't be travelling there and spending my money. Is that a perfect stance? Of course not. However as someone who visited Brazil and had an amazing time, I want to support the players I love without supporting Qatar. So yeah, I don't mind a Middle Eastern World Cup. It's not winter that bothers me, but something else. I can support that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpg75 Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 12 hours ago, Robert said: Thanks for the correction. Robert, you're wrong so much i'm starting to think you're a CSA employee. ddoouugg 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kent Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 On 7/2/2018 at 3:18 AM, Robert said: Although what little I know about hockey and soccer, it is still an indisputable fact that internationally-speaking Canada remains irrelevant in both sports given the proper amount of stat cherry picking. 25 years since a Canadian club won the Stanley Cup. 32 years since Canada's one and only World Cup qualification. FYP. Alternate stats. 3 Olympic Gold Medals, 7 World Championships, and 2 World Cup of Hockey championships in Men's ice hockey and 4 Olympic Gold Medals, 10 World Championships in Women's ice hockey in the last 32 years. 7 months since a Canadian club won the MLS Cup. grande, maplebanana and romurra 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, Kent said: FYP. Alternate stats. 3 Olympic Gold Medals, 7 World Championships, and 2 World Cup of Hockey championships in Men's ice hockey and 4 Olympic Gold Medals, 10 World Championships in Women's ice hockey in the last 32 years. 7 months since a Canadian club won the MLS Cup. 6 hours ago, jpg75 said: Robert, you're wrong so much i'm starting to think you're a CSA employee. Yeah, you're right, but you forgot to add that I'm right more often than I'm wrong. Unfortunately, we can't all be perfect like you. And just FYI - I have never worked for anyone in my life! I've always been self-employed. The last thing I'd want to do is be a CSA employee and work for a bunch of fucking Bozos. Not interested. Either I run the whole fucking show or F U. The first thing I would do if I ran the whole show would be to fire Mt. Pete. Fucking useless piece of shit. Until that happens we will continue to suffer like we have since 1912. p.s. the Olympics are for losers. How many World Cup champions have competed in the Olympics? A lot less than the couple who never have! Edited July 3, 2018 by Robert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkuseisLoose Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 8 hours ago, Tg11 said: I know right. Canada has less than 6 months to find out just what their fate will be but then again wouldn't the CONCACAF Nations League determine all of that since it ties into 2022 Qualifiers no? Do you just say stuff with no idea whether you’ll be right or not. The concacaf nations league is for gold cup qualifying not for world cup qualifying Longrange and romurra 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tg11 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 From my understanding anyway the way I heard it it is that yes it is for Gold Cup qualifying but apparently it will help towards qualification for 2022 https://www.google.ca/amp/s/ca.sports.yahoo.com/amphtml/news/risks-benefits-logistics-new-concacaf-nations-league-102912263.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkuseisLoose Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 2 hours ago, Tg11 said: From my understanding anyway the way I heard it it is that yes it is for Gold Cup qualifying but apparently it will help towards qualification for 2022 https://www.google.ca/amp/s/ca.sports.yahoo.com/amphtml/news/risks-benefits-logistics-new-concacaf-nations-league-102912263.html From that article it says that it would make it hard to play all of the games because of World Cup qualifying but not affect who qualifies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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