General Discussion on Canadian Youth Teams

[Bison44]

I dont think it did, and I didnt hear anyone squawk about it.  It should have happened right after Herdman scouted the MLS camps (we heard all about that) and got all those kids together.  This skipping camps, skipping friendlies etc has just gotten to be a bad habit.  

[BCM]

5 hours ago, Bison44 said:

I dont think it did, and I didnt hear anyone squawk about it.  It should have happened right after Herdman scouted the MLS camps (we heard all about that) and got all those kids together.  This skipping camps, skipping friendlies etc has just gotten to be a bad habit.  

Keep up the good work, paid journalists...

[masster]

Didn't know exactly where to post this article, but since it has to do with youth development, thought it might fit here.
https://theprovince.com/sports/soccer/mls/vancouver-whitecaps/j-j-adams-whitecaps-aim-to-come-in-from-the-cold-with-revitalized-academy-system?utm_term=Autofeed&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1553234498

No matter how the Whitecaps try to spin it, this U23 squad is such a makeshift solution. Friendlies just don't cut it. Players need meaningful situations in competitive matches to develop. Is Mukumbilwa really better off with this travelling squad than he would be on loan at Valour for example?

It is interesting to see that all 3 of the Canadian MLS teams have a different setup for bridging the gap between their youth sides and the MLS squad. 

[SpecialK]

US U23 lost 2-0 to Egypt U23 . Do you think we’ll see a Canadian U23 friendly soon ?? 

[Vince193]

1 hour ago, SpecialK said:

US U23 lost 2-0 to Egypt U23 . Do you think we’ll see a Canadian U23 friendly soon ?? 

no but you'll see a powerpoint on how we're gonna make more Atibas!

[Bison44]

Hmmm, here is what the competition is up to. 

I guess we should be lucky we did the U-17 camp in mexico.  We were disappointed Millar or Tabla etc didnt get into the game against Guiana, but maybe we could have had a U-23 camp/friendly in tandem with the mens and gotten some of those guys some game time.  Along with Bayiha, Choiniere, Pantemis, Shome, Daniels, Fraser, Okello, Bair, Baldisimo, Coyln, Hasal, Norman, TMG, Kinube, Hundal, Boskovic etc, just from north america.  

https://www.mlssoccer.com/post/2019/03/26/bright-future-usmnt-u-20-u-23-teams-impress-friendlies

[Olympique_de_Marseille]

On 3/22/2019 at 10:58 PM, SpecialK said:

US U23 lost 2-0 to Egypt U23 . Do you think we’ll see a Canadian U23 friendly soon ?? 

Gold Cup is not in July this year. The tournament would overlap with it.

http://festival-foot-espoirs.com/festival/equipes.php

Still, 12 teams will be in it and only 9 are listed so far.

[C2SKI]

2 hours ago, Bison44 said:

Along with Bayiha, Choiniere, Pantemis, Shome, Daniels, Fraser, Okello, Bair, Baldisimo, Coyln, Hasal, Norman, TMG, Kinube, Hundal, Boskovic etc, just from north america. 

You couldn't bring yourself to name a single CPL player? Or am I missing someone

[Bison44]

43 minutes ago, C2SKI said:

You couldn't bring yourself to name a single CPL player? Or am I missing someone

Choiniere and Baldisimo...but fill your boots, where are your picks for a u-23??  I've got about 3/4 of a camp there.  Chung, Zajac, Verhoeven, Carducci, Doe.....not counting guys called to the senior team.  

Edited March 27, 2019 by Bison44

[C2SKI]

15 minutes ago, Bison44 said:

Choiniere and Baldisimo...but fill your boots, where are your picks for a u-23??  I've got about 3/4 of a camp there.  Chung, Zajac, Verhoeven, Carducci, Doe.....not counting guys called to the senior team.  

I was just giving you a hard time really. I have no clue where your allegiances lie, but I had assumed you meant the younger of the Choiniere and Baldisimo brothers. They were the last ones called into national team camps. Verhoeven was the glaring omission for me from your original list. He's been key in recent camps. I'd also probably bring Chung and Carducci along, but I'm much more familiar with the players out west. I don't even know if I've ever watched some of those TFC/Fury/Impact players play a full match

[Bison44]

No worries, we are all V's eh??    Plenty of those kids I've only seen USL youtube feeds, and sometimes they are hard to watch.  Still a shame they couldnt work something like that out.  Have 1 dual camp for senior and u-23, integrate the youngsters in with the vets and play a u-23 friendly in the window.  But I guess if we dont have money for the senior team, its a pipedream to support the u-20 or u-23/olympic teams.  

[jpg75]

Legault.

[SpecialK]

Canada U23 player pool - most likely I missed some players please add if I did - let the debate Begin ENJOY! Ps. CSA we did the work for you get scouting you lazy cheap ....

Note * players are  dual nationals  nationals

GK

Sebastian Breza - 98 - serie C

James Pantemis - 97 - MLS/USLC

Dayne St. Clair - 97 - MLS ( no games)

Thomas Hasal - 99 - MLS( no games)

Alessandro Busti - 00 - Serie C

Axel Desjardins - 00 - Serie B

Matthew Nogueira - 98 - Liga NOS ( U23)

Gianluca Catalano - 00 - TFC Academy

*Joakim Milli- 00 - Serie B

*Andreas Vaikla- 97 - ELITESERIEN

RB

Marcus Godinho - 97 - Scot. Premiership

Zachary Brault-Guillard - 98 - MLS

Kadin Chung - 98 - CanPL

Clement Bayiha - 98 - USLC

Mateo Restrepo- 97 - NCAA

*Alexandre Fontaine - 98 - YKKÖNEN

*Matthew Morina - 97- Serie D

 

CB

Derek Cornelius - 97 - MLS

Kamal Miller- 97 - MLS

Callum Montgomery - 97 - MLS

Julian Dunn-Johnson - 00 - MLS

Kosovar Sadiki - 98 - Scot. Premiership

Rocco Romeo - 00 - NORDICBET LIGA

Scott Kennedy - 97 - 2.Liga ( Austria) 

Jonas Häkkinen - 99 - VEIKKAUSLIIGA

Santino Recine - 97 - Tercera División ( Spain)

Robert Boskovic - 98 - USLC

Thomas Meilleur-Giguère - 97 - USLC

Chrisnovic N'Sa - 99 - CanPL

Paul-Germain Togbo - 97 - LANDESLIGA HAMMONIA

Andrew Lebre - 97 - Cypriot Second Division

Klaidi Cela- 99 - TFC Academy

Yohan Le Bourhis- 00 - Montreal impact Academy

*Fikayo Tomori - 97 - Eng. Championship

*Martín Amuz - 97 - PRIMERA DIVISIÓN APERTURA

*Luke Singh - 01 - ALKA SUPERLIGAEN

*Kaeson Trench - 00 - TFC Academy

 

LB

Émile Legault - 00 - Ligue 2

Daniel Kinumbe - 99 - USLC

Ndzemdzela Langwa - 98 - CanPL

Monti Mohsen- 00 - CanPL

Diyaeddine Abzi - 98 - CanPL

Terique Mohammed - 00 - USL1

*Cristián Gutiérrez - 97 - PRIMERA DIVISIÓN ( Chile)

*Zorhan Bassong - 99 - JUPILER PRO LEAGUE

*Adrian Gapczynski - 97 - 3 LIGA - GROUP I ( Poland)

CDM

Liam Fraser - 98 - MLS

Noble Okello - 00 - MLS

Matis Romero - 01 - LaLiga (U19)

Matthew Baldisimo - 98 - CanPL

Michael Baldisimo- 00 - MLS

Benson Fazili - 00 - VIRSLIGA

Luca Ricci- 98 - USLC

Visar Hashani -99 - IPKO SUPERLIGA ( Kosovo)

Elliot Simmons - 98 - CanPL

*Rodrigo Santamaría - 00 - La Primera (El Salvador)

CM

Jordan Araujo - 99 - Premier League 2

Harry Paton- 98 - Scot Championship

Mathieu Choinière- 99 - MLS

Shamit Shome- 97 - MLS

David Norman Jr. - 98 - MLS

Malik Johnson -98 - USLC

Luca Petrasso-00- USL1

Austin Coelho- 99- Campeonato de Portugal ( 3D portugal)

Alessandro Hojabrpour - 00 - CanPL

Ethan Monaghan- 99- LANDESLIGA BAYERN SÜDOST (6D Germany)

Steffen Yeates- 00- NCAA 

Nicolas Apostol- 99 - Van academy 

Eric Davies-97- Dallas Academy

Alex Dimitriu- 97 -GIBRALTAR SECOND DIVISION

Matthew Srbely- 99 - USL1

Eldin Demir- 97 - LANDESLIGA BRAUNSCHWEIG(6D Germany)

Munir Saleh - 98 - CanPL

Dontaye Whittaker- 99- (3rd D Portugal)

Joshua Doughty- 97 - FC Arizona

*Cameron Palmer - 00 - Scot. Premiership (reserve)

*Dominik Yankov - 00 - PARVA LIGA

*Leotrim Reka - 00 - PROXIMUS LEAGUE (  2dBelgium reserves)

*Soheil Varahram - 98 - REGIONALLIGA WEST (3D Austria)

*Keani Fairbanks - 97 - Gamma Ethniki(3rd DGreece)

*Abraham Duverger- 99 - Liga Nos (U19)

*Marcin Misiak- 97 - 3 LIGA - GROUP IV ( 4D Poland )

*Michal Misiak-97 - 3 LIGA - GROUP IV ( 4D Poland )

*Vasco Fry - 00 - Van whitecaps Academy

LM

Kris Twardek- 97 - League of Ireland

Dario Zanatta- 97 - Scot. championship

Ben Paton - 00 - premier league 2

Glenn Muenkat- 99 - CanPL

James Cox - 97 - without club.

RM

Noah Verhoeven - 99 - CanPL

Dante Campbell - 99 - USL1

Diego Gutiérrez - 97 - CanPL

*Sebastien Rondeau-00- La Primera (El Salvador)

AM

Tristan Borges - 98 - CanPL

Luca Uccello- 97 - USLC

Dominic Grondin- 98 - YKKÖNEN( 2D Finland)

Aidan Daniels- 98 - USLC

Germain Hounsiagama - 97 - OBERLIGA HAMBURG ( 5D Germany)

Nicolás Galvis- 97- CanPL

Luka Gluscevic- 98- West Virginia

Emilio Estevez- 98 - CanPL

Simon Colyn- 02- MLS

James Dunning- 02- U17 EREDIVISIE

*Ferdi Kadioglu - 99- Super Lig

*Ajdin Sarcevic- 98 -Second League of the Federation of Bosnia and Herzegovina

*Teodor Dinca-Panaitescu - 99 - OBERLIGA WESTFALEN (U19)

Left Wing

Alphonso Davies - 00- BUNDESLIGA

Ballou Tabla - 99- LaLiga 2

Adonijah Reid - 99 - Ligue 2

David Choinière - 97 - CanPL

Terran Campbell- 98- CanPL 

Richie Ennin- 98 - VIRSLIGA

Soroush Teymouri- 97- 3. HNL

Marcel Zajac- 98 - CanPL

*Yuri Ruh Dos Santos - 98 - GIBRALTAR PREMIER DIVISION

*Suraphael Mangstu - 00- OBERLIGA RHEINLAND-PFALZ/SAAR

Right Wing 

Gabriel Boakye- 98 - REGIONALLIGA WEST

Malyk Hamilton- 99- CanPL

Kunle Dada-Luke- 00 - TFC Academy

Duwayne Ewart- 98 - League one Ontario

Francisco Fernandez- 98 - Primera B de Chile

*Theodor Corbeanu - 02 - U18 premier league

CF

Jonathan David - 00 - JUPILER PRO LEAGUE

Liam Millar - 99 - Scot. Premier league

Theo Bair- 99- MLS

Aramis Kouzine - 98 - PERSHA LIHA (2D Ukraine)

Shaan Hundal- 99 - USLC

Chaim Roserie- 98 - SEGUNDA DIVISIÓN B - GRUPO III

Vincent Lamy- 98 - CanPL

Jordan Perruzza- 01 - USL1

*Ayo Akinola- 00 - MLS

*Charles-Andreas Brym - 98 - Ligue 1 ( B team)

*Aleksa Markovic- 97 - SuperLiga Serbia (without a club)

*Amer Halilic - 98 - without a club

*Mc Jeffrey Pierre - 99 - Mem Martins Sport Clube

*Raheem Taylor-Parkes- 98 - without Club

 

 

 

 

 

[red card]

We lost another youth player...but this time to tennis.

Felix Auger-Alliasssime said football was his second best sport. The Telegraph compared FA2 to Mbappé.

“In football, I can be pretty handy. I think it's my second best sport. I was a left winger. I can run pretty fast. Either I make it into the centre or I cut and shoot. I have done tests on my speed, but I don’t have the records. But I think he [Mbappe] would be a bit faster than me.”

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/tennis/2019/03/28/tennis-prodigy-felix-auger-aliassime-rapidly-making-first-name/

It's good to see a golden generation of Canadian athletes cropping in the major sports the world plays. It started with the 2010 Olympics with Canada finally come to the fore in terms of winter sports. Now, we're seeing it in men's basketball, tennis and men's football.

Edited March 29, 2019 by red card

[SpecialK]

Everyone should read this. Why can’t the CSA get their shit together in the scouting.

https://tackle.ro/theodor-corbeanu-i-dream-to-win-the-world-cup-for-my-country/

 

[BuzzAndSting]

10 minutes ago, SpecialK said:

Everyone should read this. Why can’t the CSA get their shit together in the scouting.

https://tackle.ro/theodor-corbeanu-i-dream-to-win-the-world-cup-for-my-country/

 

I don’t understand, how does this relate to the CSA? Are you saying this kid is better than some who’ve been called at his age? Have you seen him play? Or is this just your regular schtick?

[SpecialK]

12 minutes ago, BuzzAndSting said:

I don’t understand, how does this relate to the CSA? Are you saying this kid is better than some who’ve been called at his age? Have you seen him play? Or is this just your regular schtick?

It relates because he was scouted by  Romania and they got him. Why didn’t the CSA scout him. On wait the U17 was basically MLS  Academy players. How many times are we gonna read articles about other countries scouting and reaching out to young players and we hear nothing about the CSA doing that.  And I know what you’re going to say well how do we know that they didn’t well if they did he would have sent it and seems like good chance he would play for us. 

I have seen video and he’s a good player.  

Edited March 30, 2019 by SpecialK

[BuzzAndSting]

11 minutes ago, SpecialK said:

It relates because he was scouted by  Romania and they got him. Why didn’t the CSA scout him. On wait the U17 was basically MLS  Academy players. How many times are we gonna read articles about other countries scouting and reaching out to young players and we hear nothing about the CSA doing that.  And I know what you’re going to say well how do we know that they didn’t well if they did he would have sent it and seems like good chance he would play for us. 

I have seen video and he’s a good player.  

Please share this video where you determined he was overlooked by the CSA. 

And let’s mark this post and see where he’s at in a couple years to see if you’re right.

[Bison44]

53 minutes ago, SpecialK said:

Everyone should read this. Why can’t the CSA get their shit together in the scouting.

https://tackle.ro/theodor-corbeanu-i-dream-to-win-the-world-cup-for-my-country/

 

This kid was with TFC academy, played in L10.  It looks like he was playing for romanian youth teams while at TFC.  Somehow I dont think is a scouting thing...they would have known about him as you even point out, our youth teams are heavy on MLS academy kids.  He might have already decided then that he wanted to go to europe and play for romania eventually.     You cant win them all and who knows what he'll end up at??  So hard to say at 15-16.  

[BuzzAndSting]

2 hours ago, Bison44 said:

This kid was with TFC academy, played in L10.  It looks like he was playing for romanian youth teams while at TFC.  Somehow I dont think is a scouting thing...they would have known about him as you even point out, our youth teams are heavy on MLS academy kids.  He might have already decided then that he wanted to go to europe and play for romania eventually.     You cant win them all and who knows what he'll end up at??  So hard to say at 15-16.  

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO CSA IS BAAAAAAAAAAAD!

[1996]

7 hours ago, BuzzAndSting said:

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO CSA IS BAAAAAAAAAAAD!

They have improved but just think of how much better things could have been if they had got their act together years ago. The CSA next to hockey has had the most registered players playing this game since the early 80’s and still do. Yes things have improved immensely with the CSA but it should have never taken this long so many waisted years with all those players playing the game in this country . Let’s hope things keep improving.

[Kent]

Interesting to note from that article that the Hamilton-Toronto drive was too long for him to join TFC earlier. Hopefully CPL teams can get youth academies set up in the not too distant future to relieve this kind of problem. Then even if the CSA is just relying on pro team's academies, they will have greater coverage.

But yeah, what Bison said about his choice to play for Romania.

[jpg75]

Corbeanu was at TFC Academy for a year and a half, so presumably he was scouted and would have benefitted from the MLS bias but was overlooked. 

Romania did not scout him, his older brother put together a highlight video which they sent to the Romanian FA.

[Shway]

2 hours ago, Kent said:

Interesting to note from that article that the Hamilton-Toronto drive was too long for him to join TFC earlier. Hopefully CPL teams can get youth academies set up in the not too distant future to relieve this kind of problem. Then even if the CSA is just relying on pro team's academies, they will have greater coverage.

But yeah, what Bison said about his choice to play for Romania.

For me personally, I think this is the next massive step needed for the CPL. We've seen what's been done with 3 academies. Add 8 more to compete with the big guys for the elite talent. 

Whitecaps and TFC programs are the most susceptible to seeing the ramifications of increased opportunities for kids. 

 

[Bison44]

A couple of our u-17 academy kids getting props as ones to watch ahead of the GA 2019 cup.  Nice to see.  

https://www.mlssoccer.com/post/2019/04/03/top-10-players-watch-2019-generation-adidas-cup