Keegan Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 Dumb red ended our chances in this tournament. Awful defending as well.. ghostknownunknown and gator 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soccerpro Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 Every two years it's the same story. Our players can't get it done. Why do any of you expect anything different? My default is that we never qualify for an u20 tournament. Nothing I've seen changes my mind going forward. Isnt being in a professional environment and having sports psychologists supposed to give our players an edge so they don't do stupid things like that red card? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpg75 Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 Who got the Red? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 What fans on twitter are not agreeing with the Red. Clear as day. Can not agree with some of the yellows though. Panama - 11 fouls - 2 yellows Canada - 4 fouls - 1 red Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dyslexic nam Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 Just now, Soccerpro said: Every two years it's the same story. Our players can't get it done. Why do any of you expect anything different? My default is that we never qualify for an u20 tournament. Nothing I've seen changes my mind going forward. Isnt being in a professional environment and having sports psychologists supposed to give our players an edge so they don't do stupid things like that red card? Some of us argued pretty strongly that we needed to take our best U20 players to this tournament to help ensure qualification. With our top 3 guys absent, it was always going to be an uphill battle. Kent 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympique_de_Marseille Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 (edited) 1 minute ago, jpg75 said: Who got the Red? Baldisimo. It would have been a red in most circumstances; it just feels unfair because Panama got away with a worse tackle that was only given a yellow. Edited November 6, 2018 by Olympique_de_Marseille jpg75 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpg75 Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 1 minute ago, dyslexic nam said: Some of us argued pretty strongly that we needed to take our best U20 players to this tournament to help ensure qualification. With our top 3 guys absent, it was always going to be an uphill battle. Four guys missing. Davies, Millar, Tabla and David. dyslexic nam 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Club Linesman Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 Fonzie on his own may have been enough to push us over the top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soccerpro Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 1 minute ago, dyslexic nam said: Some of us argued pretty strongly that we needed to take our best U20 players to this tournament to help ensure qualification. With our top 3 guys absent, it was always going to be an uphill battle. Why? Why shouldn't we able to qualify without 3 or 4 players? USA just pounded Trinidad 6-1 and they were missing more players than us. Obinna, Free kick and Kent 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Diego Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 (edited) Crazy how much one play can affect your tournament. Before the match I would have said we had a ~30% chance of qualifying for the WC. After the red, probably 5% at most. Now we are virtually done. I agree that Baldisimo's challenge was no worse than the from behind one on Choiniere, but that doesn't excuse his (Baldisimo's) decision. Ridiculous to put yourself in that position. You have to know that a red card ruins the entire tournament for your team. Very disappointing from a guy who was probably our best player so far. Le Bourhis and Campbell are nowhere near good enough for this level. Le Bourhis has allowed two one v ones due to lack of positioning, agility, and problem solving. Staggering to see him make so many wrong decisions in the span of a few seconds. Speaking of the one v ones, Busti was glued to his line for some reason. I'm not convinced by Busti yet. I don't know what to do at HT. If we got there at 0-0 we could have taken off Bair (not suited to playing with 10 men) and Campbell (just poor) and brought on a defensive midfielder (Fazili?) and Bayiha, putting Reid up front. Now we have to go for a goal and probably a draw at best, then try and play the pump the minnow game. The other option is to try and get a Panamanian player sent off (they have two on a yellow). Perhaps the ref wants to even things up. What a frustrating turn of events. Ok so that was extremely negative. My positives are that Reid and Choiniere look like real players. They are the only ones I think may do something at the next level. Okello's potential is obvious, but it is also obvious he may bust. I hope he puts it all together because he has that Atiba skill set that allows him to do everything. I never understood all the love for Dunn, but seeing him beside contemporaries like Le Bourhis and Romeo it is clear he is a level above them. Edited November 6, 2018 by El Diego Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soccerpro Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 Why do we never qualify for this tournament? Why do we always fall apart? What's wrong with Canada? Every two years, we fail. Why? It's not just because we're missing 4 players this time. Free kick and Obinna 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrennanFan Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 Super weak defending on the goal tho. #3 an #6 wake the F up! Club Linesman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Club Linesman Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 Without the red we could have been patient and then used our height advantage to hopefully get something off a set piece. Unless they lose a man quickly in the second our chances are minuscule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dyslexic nam Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 3 minutes ago, Soccerpro said: Why? Why shouldn't we able to qualify without 3 or 4 players? USA just pounded Trinidad 6-1 and they were missing more players than us. They aren't just any 3 or 4 players - they are our best players. That makes a massive difference. It is over 1/3 of the guys on the field. And who gives a shit what the US did? We need to do what we can to qualify. El Hombre, gator and Kent 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Diego Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 2 minutes ago, Club Linesman said: Fonzie on his own may have been enough to push us over the top He legitimately could have. It's crazy how much better he is than all the guys in this tournament we've seen so far, and he's underage for it to boot. 2 minutes ago, Soccerpro said: Why? Why shouldn't we able to qualify without 3 or 4 players? USA just pounded Trinidad 6-1 and they were missing more players than us. Because we're clearly much worse overall? I'm, not trying to be a jerk, I just don't understand your argument. Kent 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bison44 Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 What we should do is bring in Davies and Millar, let them run at the defense and break them down. Oh wait, everyone wanted to prioritize the senior team and the game against st kitts. Well, I guess the kids there better dig deep and make something happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soccerpro Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 What I'm saying is every edition of this tournament we have excuses. missing players or not, there's no reason we can't beat Panama. Our mentality is naive. Free kick 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C2SKI Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 5 minutes ago, El Diego said: I don't know what to do at HT. Attack the players on yellows and let the ref even the score Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympique_de_Marseille Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 Someone explain these subs....?????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C2SKI Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 If anything, this tournament solidifies the fact that we need our best players with the senior team. There are no automatic wins for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dyslexic nam Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 Just now, C2SKI said: If anything, this tournament solidifies the fact that we need our best players with the senior team. There are no automatic wins for us. I disagree. Our whole U20 group is going to miss out on the biggest tournament they could play in (and the biggest many of them ever could hope to play in) because of that decision. Club Linesman and Kent 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gator Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 Terrible defensive marking! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C2SKI Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 Just now, dyslexic nam said: I disagree. Our whole U20 group is going to miss out on the biggest tournament they could play in (and the biggest many of them ever could hope to play in) because of that decision. Could the same not be said for the senior team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 It is not as if our program doesn't have experience playing these nations and these type of games. Most of these players also have in earlier age groups. We suffer as they have big physical CB's and simlar pacey physical forwards. We are slow and/or lightweight even if we have technique and skill which means we can't always handle the movement and pace when they attack and are mainly nullified when we attack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Diego Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 4 minutes ago, Olympique_de_Marseille said: Someone explain these subs....?????? Bayiha offers speed to get in behind Panama who will get more of the ball. It also pushes Choiniere into the middle and Campbell to right back. Campbell was playing center mid and is strictly a defensive midfielder and Legault is a defensive full back. No clue on Reid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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