Joe MacCarthy Posted June 2, 2018 Share Posted June 2, 2018 BMO Field Surface Poll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad_Impact Posted June 2, 2018 Share Posted June 2, 2018 The fact that the Argo's are forcing this debate is already a joke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe MacCarthy Posted June 2, 2018 Author Share Posted June 2, 2018 How so? The bad condition of the turf this year had nothing to do with the Argos, they weren't playing. It was the Canadian winter. And we have proof that soccer causes more stress to a surface (albeit hybrid) than football, so I'd be curious to hear your rationale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe MacCarthy Posted June 2, 2018 Author Share Posted June 2, 2018 Hey folks, how's aboot posting the reasons for your decision, I'm curious. Me, I want artificial turf. Just kidding I am on the fence between turf and hybrid. I thought the reasons why they didn't go hybrid in the first place were rational. But then again I haven't heard any horror stories about hybrid either. I dunno. I'm open to be convinced. I was originally solidly behind hybrid and thought they would go that way until I heard about the cons against it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Posted June 2, 2018 Share Posted June 2, 2018 I went hybrid. Not sure why, but figured give it a shot after this terrible year and field condition. Really, anything but artificial turf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackdude Posted June 3, 2018 Share Posted June 3, 2018 Don't care. Maybe CSA can get out of BMO Field and play more games outside of there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe MacCarthy Posted June 3, 2018 Author Share Posted June 3, 2018 After being one of those who complained about getting games out of BMO and around the country, I now wonder, in the past few years, how many men's games have actually been played at BMO? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe MacCarthy Posted June 3, 2018 Author Share Posted June 3, 2018 Here's some background from the BMO thread for those who might not have seen it. Reminder why a hybrid field was rejected in the first place BMO Field's grass guys feeling the pressure Larson talks with the guys in charge of keeping the grass green Kurtis Larson, Toronto Sun, February 05, 2016 A point of contention has been the decision to not install a hybrid grass system – a surface that reinforces a natural surface with artificial fibers. Instead, MLSE has invested $400,000 in a pair of natural grass pitches currently growing in Mount Hope, Ont. They're identical to the pitch currently growing at BMO Field. “Once you go with hybrid, you're stuck with it,” Hunter explained the decision. “You can't do patching or replacement.” As Heggie affirmed, the decision provides something of an insurance plan, an immediate back up. “If you have a hybrid field you're relying on growing grass from seed,” Heggie added. “There's no quick fix. When you have natural grass you have the ability to rip it out and put fresh grass in – thick cut grass that will stay down. You always have that in case of emergency.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Shway Posted June 3, 2018 Share Posted June 3, 2018 His tuned has drastically changed since that article. Here's a link a David Platt article talking about BMO going to a Hybrid. “All of them have it,” Heggie said of the English Premier League’s adoption of hybrid pitches. “And you’ll see their stadiums in December and January and towards the end of the season, and from where the goalie stands to the 12-yard dot is just gutted. There’s no grass left in some of these stadiums. “But it still holds together. You never see them slipping and sliding. And the reason it’s not slipping and sliding is because that hybrid solution is in there. It can look not great but it will always play and at the end of the day it is about playability, not aesthetics.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe MacCarthy Posted June 3, 2018 Author Share Posted June 3, 2018 23 minutes ago, Jahinho Guerro said: His tuned has drastically changed since that article. Here's a link a David Platt article talking about BMO going to a Hybrid. Yes, I posted that article in the BMO stadium thread, and also posed the question why hybrid wasn't used in the first place. They must have come to the conclusion that they can't fight the Canadian winter every year. but it will always play and at the end of the day it is about playability, not aesthetics.” Maybe that sentence is telling and they were trying to please fans too much? Dunno. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe MacCarthy Posted June 3, 2018 Author Share Posted June 3, 2018 I don't know if I am surprised or not but the results so far are overwhelmingly in favour of hybrid. I don't know if that would have been the case when this all began. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kent Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 6 hours ago, Joe MacCarthy said: After being one of those who complained about getting games out of BMO and around the country, I now wonder, in the past few years, how many men's games have actually been played at BMO? After 4 games in each of 2011 and 2012 there has been 0 in 2013, 1 in 2014, 3 in 2015, 0 in 2016, 1 in 2017, and of course so far 0 in 2018. As for your other comment about the poll results, my impression back when the Argos were first confirmed to be coming was that most were hoping for hybrid back then. I think my impression came from comments on wakingthered.com, but could also be my own perception because I wanted hybrid back then too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe MacCarthy Posted June 5, 2018 Author Share Posted June 5, 2018 I'd be interested in hearing from the turf only voters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe MacCarthy Posted June 5, 2018 Author Share Posted June 5, 2018 Fake news! The Russians have rigged this poll. It states 39 members have voted, but the votes add up to 40! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Bob Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 Artificial turf was created by the one true god, Science, expressly for the purpose of providing a place to play sports. It is pretty and flexible and supports Canada's petroleum industry. Long live artificial turf, grass is for cattle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe MacCarthy Posted June 6, 2018 Author Share Posted June 6, 2018 51 minutes ago, Benjamin Massey said: Artificial turf was created by the one true god, Science, expressly for the purpose of providing a place to play sports. It is pretty and flexible and supports Canada's petroleum industry. Long live artificial turf, grass is for cattle. Former Mets pitcher Tug McGraw, on whether he prefers grass to AstroTurf: “I don’t know. I’ve never smoked AstroTurf.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrennanFan Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 I think given our winters, and having to play late into the fall and early in the year, hybrid will not have the results its had elsewhere. worth trying, since its not my money. but i'm skeptical that it would be any better than a natural surface + replacement natural surfaces when needed, as theyre doing currently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpecialK Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 16 minutes ago, BrennanFan said: I think given our winters, and having to play late into the fall and early in the year, hybrid will not have the results its had elsewhere. worth trying, since its not my money. but i'm skeptical that it would be any better than a natural surface + replacement natural surfaces when needed, as theyre doing currently. With a hybrid system you can put in the heating system underneath, A lot of northern countries all have this system in place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kent Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 16 hours ago, SpecialK said: With a hybrid system you can put in the heating system underneath, A lot of northern countries all have this system in place. It’s not clear from your comment if you are aware or not, but this already exists at BMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpecialK Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 13 minutes ago, Kent said: It’s not clear from your comment if you are aware or not, but this already exists at BMO. Oh I didn’t know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 Since 2010. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fort York Redcoat1555362293 Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 Natural grass. Glad we finally have a thread about BMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tg11 Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 I cannot wait to see what upgrades they make to BMO especially since we know it will be one of the 2026 FIFA World Cup Canadian venues Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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