York 9 2019 launch/offseason thread

[Ams1984]

55 minutes ago, 1996 said:

Read the article and Gogarty mentions his York University coach Carmine Isaaco as the York 9 assistant coach. This is the real coach of York 9 not this PR guy pretend coach Brennan who has  hardly coached at any level and when he has,  at TFC and Aurora of League 1 Ontario,  he has failed  miserably . Isaaco on the other hand has won many youth national championships coaching  different youth teams from the Toronto area and a number of national championships at the university level with York University.  The smartest move Brennan has done is bringing Isaaco on board the next smartest move Brennan can do is removing the title of head coach of York 9 before his name because he ain’t fooling the many people involved in soccer at all levels in the York Region and in the Toronto area who the real head coach of York 9 really is , he might fool the soccer fans who are soccer fans but are not involved in coaching or even in administrative wise in the southern Ontario area but he is not fooling the people involved in the game at all levels. Brennan should stick with trying to advertise the team throughout the the York Region area and wherever he could spread the word but leave the actual coaching part to someone who can actually coach and has had success , which I think Brennan will do even though he has the head coach title before his name , but he should just take that title away from his name because a lot of us in the know we realize who the real head coach will be .

That’s pretty harsh, and not particularly well-reasoned if you ask me. I’m not at all critical of Isacco, but he has no more high level coaching experience than Brennan. Also, Brennan is a very experienced former professional player who has played in the EPL and for the CMNT, He’s no less qualified than Isacco, in fact Brennan’s playing career was a far shot above Isacco’s, and therefore he has significantly greater exposer to the professional environment than does Isacco who has neither played on nor coached a top tier professional side. Brennan might not be a great coach, I don’t know because he’s pretty new at it, but your assertion that Isacco is somehow the much better coach (who will secretly be managing the club) is baseless. 

[Senorpopps]

IMO, the higher the rate of run-on sentences in an argument, the less validity it has.

[1996]

1 hour ago, Ams1984 said:

That’s pretty harsh, and not particularly well-reasoned if you ask me. I’m not at all critical of Isacco, but he has no more high level coaching experience than Brennan. Also, Brennan is a very experienced former professional player who has played in the EPL and for the CMNT, He’s no less qualified than Isacco, in fact Brennan’s playing career was a far shot above Isacco’s, and therefore he has significantly greater exposer to the professional environment than does Isacco who has neither played on nor coached a top tier professional side. Brennan might not be a great coach, I don’t know because he’s pretty new at it, but your assertion that Isacco is somehow the much better coach (who will secretly be managing the club) is baseless. 

I’m not going to rehash why I feel the way I do and why I’m making this assertion I’ve already waisted too much time writing about my dealings with Brennan when he was the coach of Aurora in league 1 Ontario . In terms of coaching , Brennan has has hardly coached and when he has , for the little he has , he has been a failure, with the Aurora gig being a laughable attempt at coaching for the times he was actually at practise and at games. If I have to choose between a guy who has actually coached and has been a success while actually coaching at the youth level, the university level and also very successful winning championships in League 1 Ontario a League that the CPL has purchased because it sees it as a good developmental league . I’m picking Isaaco over a guy like Brennan . Just because a guy played at a high level does not automatically make you a better coach over someone who has actually coached and has  had success. Brennan is good at using his name and his past playing experience to make a good living and for this I can’t fault him . However , as a head coach in the CPL after what I witness of his so called head coaching stint at League 1 Aurora the guy is just not qualified in my opinion. However, he is smart enough to bring on Isaaco to actually do the real coaching . Brennan is doing exactly what Mo Johnston did the first year of TFC . Mo named himself head coach but the real coach was the former US national team coach Bob Gansler who to the public was listed as an assistant coach. Incidentally surprise surprise Brennan was a player for TFC that first season , so I guess he is just doing the same thing Mo Johnston did . The season is fast approaching let’s see how this all plays out .

[Ansem]

2 hours ago, 1996 said:

Read the article and Gogarty mentions his York University coach Carmine Isaaco as the York 9 assistant coach. This is the real coach of York 9 not this PR guy pretend coach Brennan who has  hardly coached at any level and when he has,  at TFC and Aurora of League 1 Ontario,  he has failed  miserably . Isaaco on the other hand has won many youth national championships coaching  different youth teams from the Toronto area and a number of national championships at the university level with York University.  The smartest move Brennan has done is bringing Isaaco on board the next smartest move Brennan can do is removing the title of head coach of York 9 before his name because he ain’t fooling the many people involved in soccer at all levels in the York Region and in the Toronto area who the real head coach of York 9 really is , he might fool the soccer fans who are soccer fans but are not involved in coaching or even in administrative wise in the southern Ontario area but he is not fooling the people involved in the game at all levels. Brennan should stick with trying to advertise the team throughout the the York Region area and wherever he could spread the word but leave the actual coaching part to someone who can actually coach and has had success , which I think Brennan will do even though he has the head coach title before his name , but he should just take that title away from his name because a lot of us in the know we realize who the real head coach will be .

Very passionate text...

Now I'm awaiting the same paper on this guy by end of week

[BringBackTheBlizzard]

That was Gansler's version of events, 1996. Chris Cummins later complained bitterly about MoJo's meddling on team selection matters, so suspect it was more a case of coach/GM being too much for one person to do and Gansler feeling he was left doing enough to be considered as head coach when Mo was off doing the GM thing.  Isacco was also at TFC at the time so should know to be wary of that sort of scenario.

[Winnipeg Fury]

 

 

5 hours ago, KW519 said:

Considering 29% of Manitoba children live in poverty, kindly stfu. I've lived all over North-End, food security is a very real issue in Winnipeg. You make jokes about the Manitoba kids born into poverty? 

You've lived all over the North End........good for you princess !   

Venezuela used to be one of the most affluent countries in SA, my comment was directed at their current political crisis.

 

Edited February 4, 2019 by Winnipeg Fury

[Guest]

6 hours ago, KW519 said:

Considering 29% of Manitoba children live in poverty, kindly stfu. I've lived all over North-End, food security is a very real issue in Winnipeg. You make jokes about the Manitoba kids born into poverty? 

Sorry to go off topic again, but it is posts like THIS that turn people off. Telling another poster to STFU. You are crossing the line when you get personal.

Edited February 5, 2019 by dsqpr

[MM3/MM2/MM]

3 hours ago, BringBackTheBlizzard said:

That was Gansler's version of events, 1996. Chris Cummins later complained bitterly about MoJo's meddling on team selection matters, so suspect it was more a case of coach/GM being too much for one person to do and Gansler feeling he was left doing enough to be considered as head coach when Mo was off doing the GM thing.  Isacco was also at TFC at the time so should know to be wary of that sort of scenario.

I was in Charleston in 2007 and attended many of the TFC practices while they were there for the Battery tournament (also attended the 1st 2 games) and Gansler was definitely the man in charge of the the training sessions, Mo seemed to be more interested in being one of the boys, participating in the scrimmage and some of the drills or off to the side on his phone.  After one of the sessions I walked back to the parking lot with Gansler, from the conversation he seemed very frustrated with Mo.  

[KW519]

15 minutes ago, dsqpr said:

Sorry to go off topic again, but it is posts like THIS that turn people off. Telling another poster to STFU. You are crossing the line when you get personal.

Telling someone to shut up is crossing the line but joking about someones financial situation based on their nationality isn't? Noted.

 

 

[Guest]

2 minutes ago, KW519 said:

Telling someone to shut up is crossing the line but joking about someones financial situation based on their nationality isn't? Noted.

 

 

Correct. You don't get to censor the type of humour other posters like. And if you try, someone is likely to call you a sanctimonious prig.

When you get personal, you may expect your target to return fire, which leads to a bunch of idiotic posts like this one that others do NOT want to have to wade through.

[yellowsweatygorilla]

I think the Venezuelan comment was in poor taste. Claims of censorship are hyperbolic, maybe both sides can just retract

[Rocket Robin]

I think Isacco has a big head start in that he's got possibly ten former Vaughan Azzurri players (either successful trialists, draft choices or actual signings) for York 9...numbers comparable to Bobby S at Sigma (now coaching CPL Forge FC) and possibly the Edmonton and Calgary teams signing their old rosters (although that's just what I've read).   Former Aurora players on York 9 are maybe three by now.  

Bob Gansler the former American National team coach?  I used to correspond with his son (also named Bob Gansler) well before TFC days who ran a fan page for the British band 'The Hollies' in the early days of the internet.  Bob Jr ended up getting married and disappeared.   I used to run a music trivia page too and my interaction with him is still up at http://www.rocketrobinsoccerintoronto.com/trivia/trivi110.htm

   

[Guest]

19 minutes ago, yellowsweatygorilla said:

I think the Venezuelan comment was in poor taste. Claims of censorship are hyperbolic, maybe both sides can just retract

IMHO, this is the right way to comment on a post you don't like. It is clearly not personal, which was really my only point.

[KW519]

34 minutes ago, dsqpr said:

Correct. You don't get to censor the type of humour other posters like. And if you try, someone is likely to call you a sanctimonious prig.

When you get personal, you may expect your target to return fire, which leads to a bunch of idiotic posts like this one that others do NOT want to have to wade through.

I don't get to censor the type of humour other like just as you don't get to censor how others react to humour.There's no humour there imo. That's the point. And if you think shut up is personal that's your issue. People will think I need to stfu right now and it's the truth. I don't think there's anything personal about it. 

My bad for taking the conversation off topic.

[Ams1984]

3 hours ago, Winnipeg Fury said:

You've lived all over the North End........good for you princess !   

Venezuela used to be one of the most affluent countries in SA, my comment was directed at their current political crisis.

 

Also, perhaps it was a bit of tonge-in-cheek commentary on the possibility that due to the conditions in Venezuela, it may not require an expensive salary to lure a player from there... I think I get it. Unfortunately we live in a time where many people are hyper-sensitive. I’m not sure that your comment warranted outrage or offense. In fact, I’m pretty sure that many of the people who are the most outraged over such benign quips in general should look in the mirror and ask themselves if they’re not being a touch hypocritical... I highly doubt that they’ve never made a slightly off colour jest. 

[Guest]

3 minutes ago, KW519 said:

I don't get to censor the type of humour other like just as you don't get to censor how others react to humour.There's no humour there imo. That's the point. And if you think shut up is personal that's your issue. People will think I need to stfu right now and it's the truth. I don't think there's anything personal about it. 

My bad for taking the conversation off topic.

Captain Obvious says: when you tell someone to STFU you are trying to censor them.

[Guest]

25 minutes ago, Ams1984 said:

Also, perhaps it was a bit of tonge-in-cheek commentary on the possibility that due to the conditions in Venezuela, it may not require an expensive salary to lure a player from there... I think I get it. Unfortunately we live in a time where many people are hyper-sensitive. I’m not sure that your comment warranted outrage or offense. In fact, I’m pretty sure that many of the people who are the most outraged over such benign quips in general should look in the mirror and ask themselves if they’re not being a touch hypocritical... I highly doubt that they’ve never made a slightly off colour jest. 

Indeed! Anyone who thinks this forum is not a place where you can make an edgy quip has not been here very long!

In any case, I saw it as a comment on the socialist idiocy that has taken Venezuela in short order from being one of the most prosperous South American countries into abject poverty where people are using banknotes to wipe their asses because they are worth less than the toilet paper they can buy. What, the government can't make everybody rich by just printing more money?! Who'd a thunk it? In fairness to those who voted for it, it is a very beguiling lie. But we have an excellent policy on here of no politics so I will leave it there.

[yellowsweatygorilla]

Hopefully this is bs. I have some trust in isacco

 

[Alex D]

11 minutes ago, yellowsweatygorilla said:

Hopefully this is bs. I have some trust in isacco

 

Who the heck is this guy and what is sus?

[Bison44]

Did you read any of his tweets?? He comments about all L10 coaches being poor as well.  I dont think I would put a lot of faith in this.  And does sus mean bad??  Just checking.

 

[yellowsweatygorilla]

Just now, Bison44 said:

Did you read any of his tweets?? He comments about all L10 coaches being poor as well.  I dont think I would put a lot of faith in this.  And does sus mean bad??  Just checking.

 

Sus means suspect (had to look it up :p)

 

But ya. No clue who it is. But makes it tempting to drop by osc if they are training already 

[Alex D]

He seems to hate everything in search of attention. 

[yellowsweatygorilla]

3 minutes ago, Bison44 said:

Did you read any of his tweets?? He comments about all L10 coaches being poor as well.  I dont think I would put a lot of faith in this.  And does sus mean bad??  Just checking.

 

Woah just saw his tweets. That's a bitter person 

[Bison44]

2 minutes ago, yellowsweatygorilla said:

Sus means suspect (had to look it up :p)

 

But ya. No clue who it is. But makes it tempting to drop by osc if they are training already 

Exactly, they prob arent even practising yet.  

[Macksam]

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