VinceA Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 not on the latest U17 roster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dyslexic nam Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 https://www.mlssoccer.com/post/2019/11/19/bogert-vancouver-whitecaps-teenager-simon-colyn-set-train-psv-eindhoven. Sounds promising N1ckbr0wn 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nolando Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 Going nowhere fast in Vancouver, so why not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aird25 Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 7 hours ago, nolando said: Going nowhere fast in Vancouver, so why not? I don’t get the snide comment. It seems like a good opportunity for the kid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dyslexic nam Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 5 minutes ago, Aird25 said: I don’t get the snide comment. It seems like a good opportunity for the kid I think it is a shot at the Caps, not the kid. nolando 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nolando Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 4 minutes ago, Aird25 said: I don’t get the snide comment. It seems like a good opportunity for the kid Nothing snide. I think a lot of people in Vancouver felt he was being moved along a Davies-like path of opportunity after starting at the end of the previous season. He kind of fell off the map this past year if I'm not mistaken. There's not much going on for anyone other than residency boys or first team players here so why not let his development be entrusted to a reputable club in Europe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpursFlu Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 (edited) 9 hours ago, nolando said: Going nowhere fast in Vancouver, so why not? He's one of the youngest players to sign an MLS contracts, helped Canada U17 make the World Cup, helped Caps U17 get to USSD final 4 last year. Is literally "going to" PSV on trial. If that's nowhere fast I would hate to hear what you think of the other 99.9999999% of 17 year old soccer players on the planet Davies like path? Who is on that path? Edited November 20, 2019 by SpursFlu johnyb, CANMNT_SUPERFAN and Aird25 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kent Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, nolando said: Nothing snide. I think a lot of people in Vancouver felt he was being moved along a Davies-like path of opportunity after starting at the end of the previous season. He kind of fell off the map this past year if I'm not mistaken. There's not much going on for anyone other than residency boys or first team players here so why not let his development be entrusted to a reputable club in Europe? Did he get a start? What I am seeing on MLS's website and transfermarkt is that he hasn't played a minute for the whitecaps. Edit: I wasn't looking in the right place on transfermarkt. He apparently played 4 minutes in 2018. Edited November 20, 2019 by Kent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nolando Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 At this fork in the road, if I'm his parent/advisor/agent (and even as a Voyageur), I'm not realistically thinking he'll be the next Alfonso Davies, but rather worried that he might become the next Philippe Davies if he doesn't get into a prime development situation from age 18-22. I just don't see the Caps as that place, personally. Northvansteve 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aird25 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 11 hours ago, nolando said: Nothing snide. I think a lot of people in Vancouver felt he was being moved along a Davies-like path of opportunity after starting at the end of the previous season. He kind of fell off the map this past year if I'm not mistaken. There's not much going on for anyone other than residency boys or first team players here so why not let his development be entrusted to a reputable club in Europe? People are going to be repeatedly disappointed if they expect every prospect to perform like Davies has as a teenager. Most just don’t possess those tools yet. I’d personally prefer to see how players like Colyn perform against men in the CPL, than risk losing them to bigger clubs through a loan/option to buy, but I get the draw for the players to chose a more proven pathway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bison44 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 After getting the cameo at end of 2018, I thought he would at least be up with the big club for part of the season, maybe get a couple games. Didnt he damn near score in that game?? Not really expecting a Davies like progression but he needs to play. I'd like to see him in CPL too, but if he is inclined and it good enough why not go to PSV? CANMNT_SUPERFAN and nolando 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpursFlu Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 1 hour ago, Bison44 said: After getting the cameo at end of 2018, I thought he would at least be up with the big club for part of the season, maybe get a couple games. Didnt he damn near score in that game?? Not really expecting a Davies like progression but he needs to play. I'd like to see him in CPL too, but if he is inclined and it good enough why not go to PSV? He was injured this season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northvansteve Posted November 21, 2019 Author Share Posted November 21, 2019 10 hours ago, nolando said: I'm not realistically thinking he'll be the next Alfonso Davies, but rather worried that he might become the next Philippe Davies Great line Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bison44 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 53 minutes ago, SpursFlu said: He was injured this season Cripes, all season?? ACL, knee?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stryker911 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 He is good enough to get a trial for a top Dutch team, but he wasn't good enough for our u17 team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 5 hours ago, Stryker911 said: He is good enough to get a trial for a top Dutch team, but he wasn't good enough for our u17 team? Trial? Thought he was just training? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red card Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 (edited) 7 hours ago, Stryker911 said: He is good enough to get a trial for a top Dutch team, but he wasn't good enough for our u17 team? He was injured or coming off an injury. Plus, he looked ordinary to poor during qualifying. He reminded me of Bekker - showed ball skills but not much else. Edited November 21, 2019 by red card Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nolando Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 Sounding more and more from people like Glass City that the PSV deal is essentially done but not yet announced. I see he turns 18 in March. Does he need to a certain age before it can be made official? CANMNT_SUPERFAN 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norrin Radd Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 6 minutes ago, nolando said: Does he need to a certain age before it can be made official? I don't think so. He needs to be 18 to sign a contract but I don't believe there is any restrictions on when a transfer could be announced. The Davies transfer was confirmed months before his 18th birthday. nolando 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SthMelbRed Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 5 hours ago, nolando said: Sounding more and more from people like Glass City that the PSV deal is essentially done but not yet announced. I see he turns 18 in March. Does he need to a certain age before it can be made official? Unless he has an EU passport, he cannot complete an international transfer to Europe until his 18th birthday. Junkie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearcatSA Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 I thought that he had a Dutch passport (according to a poster on this thread)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 Exciting move for him if it comes to pass. Certainly someone damaged by the next davies hype and expectation in some quarters. Whether he wasnt ready, grew an attitude problem/mental block coping or the caps saw the potential hype problem and pushed on the breaks I dont know. He looked bright in his debut cameo at the end of the 2018 season for the caps. Hasnt impressed me in what I saw in youth internationals and albeit a nothing to play for friendly vs SK Selects last summer. The talent must certainly be there he just needs the environment and platform. Hopefully he can carve out his own path in Holland. A great landing spot to learn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norrin Radd Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 On 1/18/2020 at 11:06 AM, toontownman said: Whether he wasnt ready, grew an attitude problem/mental block coping or the caps saw the potential hype problem and pushed on the breaks I dont know. It might simply be a fitness issue. I thought he was struggling with injuries most of last season. toontownman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearcatSA Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 1 hour ago, Norrin Radd said: It might simply be a fitness issue. I thought he was struggling with injuries most of last season. This. Also, I remember Dasovic being interviewed (can't find a link, sorry) and mentioning that Colyn probably wasn't physically ready for the rigours of the senior team. toontownman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoginess Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 8 hours ago, BearcatSA said: This. Also, I remember Dasovic being interviewed (can't find a link, sorry) and mentioning that Colyn probably wasn't physically ready for the rigours of the senior team. Sounds like a poor excuse to not have him training with the first team, get in the 18 now and than and get some junk time minutes in games out of reach. Especially since the whitecaps were basically out of it by July and their midfield was terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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