Brazilero Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 Daniels is a midfielder. Largely ineffective up top. David will play better with better players around him. Selection was very poor for this level as there are so many more talented players available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpecialK Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 37 minutes ago, Brazilero said: Daniels is a midfielder. Largely ineffective up top. David will play better with better players around him. Selection was very poor for this level as there are so many more talented players available. Like who ??? Names please yes there are a few that definitely should’ve made the team but many more ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Diego Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 47 minutes ago, Brazilero said: Daniels is a midfielder. Largely ineffective up top. David will play better with better players around him. Selection was very poor for this level as there are so many more talented players available. 9 minutes ago, SpecialK said: Like who ??? Names please yes there are a few that definitely should’ve made the team but many more ? Yeah there are two things that bother me about the claim that selection was poor: 1. What guys that weren't injured or attempted to be called up realistically should have been called? 2. Who the heck has the ability to watch all these kids from all these different leagues enough times to make any sort of claim that the selection was really bad considering we exceeded expectations? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpg75 Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 Lol, even the resident troll knows the guy is trolling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kent Posted June 10, 2018 Share Posted June 10, 2018 On 6/8/2018 at 10:38 AM, Brazilero said: I thought Zambrano was a very good option for the Men's program. Herdsman and Biello need time to marinate, so they will obviously play it safe. However, our talent pool has players that we could use to play a bit riskier and open up a bit. These players have good speed and technical ability. We tend to select the same type of players. Hard working, hard tackling, tactically sound, but not enough creativity. At some point we need to select athletes that represent a change in tactics and strategy. Sometimes those athletes are not model citizens but their talent is very high. we need to see those players at some point, because they are game changers. Time for a change in our thinking and recruitment. Liam Miller is a great young player, but they need to let him go for it and carve out his own identity within the team. Just my two cents. So Zambrano was good, but Herdman is not good enough because of finishing 6th. Lets just remember Herdman/Biello just finished 6th after playing Portugal, Turkey, Japan, and France. Zambrano lost in the quarterfinals (so equivalent to finishing 5th-8th) in the Gold Cup after playing French Guiana, Costa Rica, Honduras, and Jamaica. Alright then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brazilero Posted June 10, 2018 Share Posted June 10, 2018 If you don't know which players are available, not my problem. It is a large pool, so figure it out. Gold Cup is full national team Kent, so give it a rest with your analogy. You're wrong, you'll see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuzzAndSting Posted June 10, 2018 Share Posted June 10, 2018 33 minutes ago, Brazilero said: If you don't know which players are available, not my problem. It is a large pool, so figure it out. Gold Cup is full national team Kent, so give it a rest with your analogy. You're wrong, you'll see. So you can’t name one player that you would have taken instead? What’s the point in posting here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brazilero Posted June 10, 2018 Share Posted June 10, 2018 Do you actually know which players are in the pool? Forget it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuzzAndSting Posted June 10, 2018 Share Posted June 10, 2018 44 minutes ago, Brazilero said: Do you actually know which players are in the pool? Forget it. Okay so I ask again, what’s the point in posting here? All you do is complain and then refuse to actually discuss anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpecialK Posted June 10, 2018 Share Posted June 10, 2018 1 hour ago, Brazilero said: Do you actually know which players are in the pool? Forget it. http://www.canucks-abroad.ca/ These guys and girls do an amazing job with the research ! Keep up The Great work !! Also there is a bunch of websites that are really good with player information like https://www.transfermarkt.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kadenge Posted June 10, 2018 Share Posted June 10, 2018 just read an article dated June 9th in the Toronto Star which quoted Herdman as saying that 8 of our best U21 players declined the invite to Toulon. I assume that includes Davies, Fraser, Akinola, Adonija Reid and Tabla…..which means there were 3 others who were approached and declined. ……. Dom Iankov, Zoran Bassong and possibly Ferdi K? https://www.thetorontostar.com/sports/worldcup/2018/06/09/successful-world-cup-bid-could-unite-canadian-soccer.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badname22 Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 4 hours ago, Kadenge said: just read an article dated June 9th in the Toronto Star which quoted Herdman as saying that 8 of our best U21 players declined the invite to Toulon. I assume that includes Davies, Fraser, Akinola, Adonija Reid and Tabla…..which means there were 3 others who were approached and declined. ……. Dom Iankov, Zoran Bassong and possibly Ferdi K? https://www.thetorontostar.com/sports/worldcup/2018/06/09/successful-world-cup-bid-could-unite-canadian-soccer.html Brault- Guilland and Cristan Gutierrez could also be part of that list Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegan Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 Meilleur-Giguere, Borges and Godinho could be others.. tough to say. 8 sounds high though assuming he’s not referring to players who have never been involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brazilero Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 Good work Kadenge. There are even more that are very talented who refuse to join the CMNT. Wonder why? Common theme. Eyes wide shut in Canada... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 41 minutes ago, Brazilero said: Good work Kadenge. There are even more that are very talented who refuse to join the CMNT. Wonder why? Common theme. Eyes wide shut in Canada... Because sometimes there are good explanations. Who are these players you speak of? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tg11 Posted June 24, 2018 Share Posted June 24, 2018 On 6/12/2018 at 2:15 PM, Brazilero said: Good work Kadenge. There are even more that are very talented who refuse to join the CMNT. Wonder why? Common theme. Eyes wide shut in Canada... Maybe because the players who are talented, who have refused to play for Canada is because maybe they feel a stronger sense of identity when it comes to the other country that they have roots or perhaps they were born in that other country since most of those players have dual nationalities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shortdutchcanuck Posted June 24, 2018 Share Posted June 24, 2018 10 minutes ago, Tg11 said: Maybe because the players who are talented, who have refused to play for Canada is because maybe they feel a stronger sense of identity when it comes to the other country that they have roots or perhaps they were born in that other country since most of those players have dual nationalities. You are right. If any of my cousins had been good enough for Holland the decision would have been a difficult one. But I think @Brazilero is insinuating there is some deep systemic issue with CSA that drives players away. Of course the CSA has plenty of issues but since he won't elaborate or name any of these supremely talented youth there isn't much point in responding. We all know about Tabla but CSA has always tried to bring him into the fold. Iankov is still a story in progress but there will always be those cases. Verhoeven on the other hand is back and Iankov might be someday too. @CanucksAbroad does a great job of tracking our youth and while we have plenty of dual national scenarios I'm not seeing much reality in this alleged mass exodus of talented youth. Our best young players were at Toulon, excepting injuries, club commitments, and several like Iankov who have legitimate cultural ties to other countries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tg11 Posted June 24, 2018 Share Posted June 24, 2018 2 minutes ago, Shortdutchcanuck said: You are right. If any of my cousins had been good enough for Holland the decision would have been a difficult one. But I think @Brazilero is insinuating there is some deep systemic issue with CSA that drives players away. Of course the CSA has plenty of issues but since he won't elaborate or name any of these supremely talented youth there isn't much point in responding. We all know about Tabla but CSA has always tried to bring him into the fold. Iankov is still a story in progress but there will always be those cases. Verhoeven on the other hand is back and Iankov might be someday too. @CanucksAbroad does a great job of tracking our youth and while we have plenty of dual national scenarios I'm not seeing much reality in this alleged mass exodus of talented youth. Our best young players were at Toulon, excepting injuries, club commitments, and several like Iankov who have legitimate cultural ties to other countries. Then that's good that well most of our young players were at Toulon, because then with that tournament not only do they gain more experience with the national team but they could potentially be good enough to play for Canada in the CONCACAF Nations League. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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