narduch Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 15 minutes ago, Dominic94 said: So David scored ? Dude. Download a score app. Fotmob is a good one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dyslexic nam Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 6 minutes ago, Craig11rm said: I don’t think this 4-4-2 system does him any favours when the midfield lacks so much vision. David’s role is very much between the goal posts. Seems like half his goals were created on his own last year… running in for rebounds and anticipating. I would be interested to see how many of his 13 goals last year were actually assisted by a teammate. I think you put him on a top team and he produces for them. You may be right. I just see some things that it seems like most high level strikers can do things that he can’t - or at least doesn’t do well. He very rarely beats defenders and doesn’t seem as fast as I used to think he was. I also find he goes down way too easy looking for calls. I am probably sounding very critical when that isn’t really the case. I just see things that I think need work if he wants to be a striker that can compete at the highest levels. grigorio, Craig11rm, cronaldo7 and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheeta Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 Here we go. Match on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheeta Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 Hiiiii yeahhhhh!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestHamCanadianinOxford Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 Looked harsh at first but he was flying in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheeta Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 Excellent.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badname22 Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 David's night is done as he gets replaced by Weah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floortom Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 David subbed off early..not a good performance. As i said a few pages back, he also did nothing at all in the preseason so it was worrisome to me that he was headed for another slow start to the season toontownman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frmr Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 1 minute ago, Floortom said: David subbed off early..not a good performance. As i said a few pages back, he also did nothing at all in the preseason so it was worrisome to me that he was headed for another slow start to the season Completely different circumstances to start this season. No way in hell he needs 10+ games to score this year. toontownman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig11rm Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 6 minutes ago, dyslexic nam said: You may be right. I just see some things that it seems like most high level strikers can do things that he can’t - or at least doesn’t do well. He very rarely beats defenders and doesn’t seem as fast as I used to think he was. I also find he goes down way too easy looking for calls. I am probably sounding very critical when that isn’t really the case. I just see things that I think need work if he wants to be a striker that can compete at the highest levels. Honestly I agree with your criticisms and he does need to work on those areas of his game before he can be a starter for a top team. Maybe it’s my bias but I feel like his instincts and his clinical finishing make up for it quite a bit. dyslexic nam 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOcanadafan Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 Just now, Floortom said: David subbed off early..not a good performance. As i said a few pages back, he also did nothing at all in the preseason so it was worrisome to me that he was headed for another slow start to the season The Iceman needs some more fire. I still don’t think Lille is the right place for him… kind of hoping that a disastrous start to the season for Lille may trigger a late panic transfer away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floortom Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 12 minutes ago, dyslexic nam said: You may be right. I just see some things that it seems like most high level strikers can do things that he can’t - or at least doesn’t do well. He very rarely beats defenders and doesn’t seem as fast as I used to think he was. I also find he goes down way too easy looking for calls. I am probably sounding very critical when that isn’t really the case. I just see things that I think need work if he wants to be a striker that can compete at the highest levels. He's never really shown the ability to take defenders on though - i dont think thats going to be something he develops. I wish he was better with a defender on his back - where he can gather the ball, hold it up or even get a shot off. He's way too easily disposessed or just flops looking for a foul. dyslexic nam and TOcanadafan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frmr Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 One of David's greatest strengths and something he doesn't really get to showcase at Lille is his short passing and 1-2's. If he played with a tica taca style team he would excel but that style doesn't really seem to be in vogue in at the moment. I think he can develop his hold up play, but yeah I think it's obvious that Lille isn't the best place for his type of profile. johnyb, Dominic94, TOcanadafan and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestHamCanadianinOxford Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 5 minutes ago, Floortom said: He's never really shown the ability to take defenders on though - i dont think thats going to be something he develops. I wish he was better with a defender on his back - where he can gather the ball, hold it up or even get a shot off. He's way too easily disposessed or just flops looking for a foul. In this system he's a poacher plain and simple. So that means he needs to be closer to Yilmaz - who looks slow and rusty - and service from wide areas. Also you can't have Yazici as your central midfielder. He ran the break well in Belgium and did well sitting behind striker(s). Early days, see what their team ends up being by the end of the transfer window. johnyb and Aird25 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheeta Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 Robbery. Plain and simple. Love it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOcanadafan Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 Haha, those Metz attackers who didn’t take the ball into the corner at the end should be benched - late equalizer - all Yilmaz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aird25 Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 10 minutes ago, WestHamCanadianinOxford said: In this system he's a poacher plain and simple. So that means he needs to be closer to Yilmaz - who looks slow and rusty - and service from wide areas. Also you can't have Yazici as your central midfielder. He ran the break well in Belgium and did well sitting behind striker(s). Early days, see what their team ends up being by the end of the transfer window. And he’s quite a good poacher, but coaches need to accommodate a player like that, and being pulled by your new manager at 60’ when you’re up a man and needing goals isn’t a great sign. My hope is that this manager will try him in another role, because I don’t think we see the best of him. Great fight back by Lille Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floortom Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 Thats why Yilmaz is still by far the most important attacker on Lille. rkomar 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frmr Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 2 minutes ago, Floortom said: Thats why Yilmaz is still by far the most important attacker on Lille. That seems like a bit of a knee jerk reaction. David scored arguably the most important goals at the end of last season and it's one game into this season. David and Yilmaz are both extremely important to Lille. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floortom Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 4 minutes ago, frmr said: That seems like a bit of a knee jerk reaction. David scored arguably the most important goals at the end of last season and it's one game into this season. David and Yilmaz are both extremely important to Lille. The difference is that Yilmaz can create goals out of nothing - and he did that all season last year. So even when Lille can’t create anything or connect two passes together a he’s able to generate opportunities on his own. That’s not something anyone else on this squad has shown the ability to do. grigorio and rkomar 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frmr Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 Just now, Floortom said: The difference is that Yilmaz can create goals out of nothing - and he did that all season last year. So even when Lille can’t create anything or connect two passes together a he’s able to generate opportunities on his own. That’s not something anyone else on this squad has shown the ability to do. Yeah I agree he probably is the most impactful attacker, but saying he is by far their most important attacker is an exaggeration. He's also 36 and has no transfer value. David also showed that he can turn a game around last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kacbru Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 4 hours ago, frmr said: He's also 36 and has no transfer value. How is this relevant? Transfermarket values don't win you anything. CanadaFan123, The Real Marc and Unnamed Trialist 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frmr Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 2 minutes ago, kacbru said: How is this relevant? Transfermarket values don't win you anything. I would consider monetary value an important factor in declaring someone an important player. Do you think Lille would prefer a career ending injury to David or Yilmaz? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kadenge Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 Sometimes it's a bit depressing being on this forum. It's 1 game guys just relax and take a deep breath. David will be fine. Just go back and read some of the posts from the first 5 months of this year when he was right up there in Ligue 1 scoring JamboAl, johnyb, toontownman and 3 others 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kacbru Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 34 minutes ago, frmr said: I would consider monetary value an important factor in declaring someone an important player. Do you think Lille would prefer a career ending injury to David or Yilmaz? I suspect they prefer that none of their players have career ending injuries. What a strange question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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