Cheeta Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 6 minutes ago, CanadaFan123 said: Unbelievable that this team is top of the table. David did well though and Weah was pretty much invisible. Thinking Galtier has designs with Weah and David both in mind. Maybe got a sniff of that today. This team is still a long way from finding its form with a lot of season left in front of it. As does PSG, thank Gawd. Cblake 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floortom Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 Only Lille couldn’t get even get the ball into the box, let alone get a shot off, on that 4-1 counter. Truly awful Cblake 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lamptern Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 I have all the patience on waiting David to score. However, I am losing 5% of it each game watching the two ball hoggers burying chance after chance. Cblake 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 23 minutes ago, CanadaFan123 said: Unbelievable that this team is top of the table. David did well though and Weah was pretty much invisible. I still think Lille needs David to score at least 10 league goals to have any chance at the title. The standings are super tight and Lille have lots of ties. It wouldn't't take that many losses for them to start dropping in the standings. CanadaFan123 and Cblake 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominic94 Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 Did he have any chances today ? Cblake 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SthMelbRed Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 Just now, Dominic94 said: Did he have any chances today ? Not unless you count the two times he was running with nothing but grass between him and the PSG goal, but his teammates decided it was better to dribble directly into a defender than to play him through. Cblake, JuicyHam, Dominic94 and 6 others 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestHamCanadianinOxford Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 24 minutes ago, Dominic94 said: Did he have any chances today ? He did have a tough volley that resulted in a tame shot. Their only one on target, I think. Cblake 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VinceA Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 Tried to defend David on Reddit and got blasted by people. The general consensus by most watching him is that he's a shit finisher and it's his fault he's struggling to score. That's depressing. Cblake 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuicyHam Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 19 minutes ago, VinceA said: Tried to defend David on Reddit and got blasted by people. The general consensus by most watching him is that he's a shit finisher and it's his fault he's struggling to score. That's depressing. Oh well. There's nothing we can do about it. Just hope he continues to develop as a player and Lille keeps getting points. David just needs to keep going out there and working with whatever service or lack of service he gets. Cblake 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominic94 Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 13 minutes ago, JuicyHam said: Oh well. There's nothing we can do about it. Just hope he continues to develop as a player and Lille keeps getting points. David just needs to keep going out there and working with whatever service or lack of service he gets. 54 minutes ago, WestHamCanadianinOxford said: He did have a tough volley that resulted in a tame shot. Their only one on target, I think. Hopefully something breaks soon, guy has the skill you don’t teach that. It’s just his head Cblake 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floortom Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 40 minutes ago, VinceA said: Tried to defend David on Reddit and got blasted by people. The general consensus by most watching him is that he's a shit finisher and it's his fault he's struggling to score. That's depressing. I mean - if he was a different nationality (ie American) we’d be saying the exact same thing. he hasn’t lived up to expectations - that’s the bottom line. And much of that has been self inflicted. Buchta, Mikmacdo, Corazon and 3 others 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aird25 Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 46 minutes ago, VinceA said: Tried to defend David on Reddit and got blasted by people. The general consensus by most watching him is that he's a shit finisher and it's his fault he's struggling to score. That's depressing. Lol if it’s the conversation I saw, then you didn’t really try to defend him, you attacked the rest of the team unprovoked. Most Lille fans I’ve found recognize that they are a better team with David on the pitch, and many thought Galtier got it wrong by keeping him on the bench. I completely agree that David has had next to no service this year. Many of his goals for Gent were first time finishes from balls coming in off the wing It doesn’t look like this team is going to offer that so he has to find another way to score. His finishing hasn’t been as consistent this season either LeoH037, Cblake and Obinna 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheeta Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 7 minutes ago, Floortom said: I mean - if he was a different nationality (ie American) we’d be saying the exact same thing. he hasn’t lived up to expectations - that’s the bottom line. And much of that has been self inflicted. Probably, but I'd also be saying all the same things I've been saying about Lillie's obvious shortcomings and telling him to cut his losses and get the Hell out of that deaf-end town because it's such a wrong fit for him. However, because he's Canadian I'm encouraging him to keep his head up, work hard, and earn his place. How much longer I keep that up I have no idea. Cblake and MM3/MM2/MM 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lamptern Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 41 minutes ago, Cheeta said: Probably, but I'd also be saying all the same things I've been saying about Lillie's obvious shortcomings and telling him to cut his losses and get the Hell out of that deaf-end town because it's such a wrong fit for him. However, because he's Canadian I'm encouraging him to keep his head up, work hard, and earn his place. How much longer I keep that up I have no idea. Haven't David and his agent done any homework before signing on the dotted line? It's not that difficult to find out what kind of style this team plays after studying 10 game videos. Hmmm......A tragedy result of "money talks"? El Hombre, Obinna and Cblake 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gigi riva Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 lille had a perfect chance on that 3 on 1 with David in the middle and the stupid winger passed it behind him Cblake 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 8 minutes ago, lamptern said: Haven't David and his agent done any homework before signing on the dotted line? It's not that difficult to find out what kind of style this team plays after studying 10 game videos. Hmmm......A tragedy result of "money talks"? Probably saw 4th in the table and didn't investigate anything else. A thing I always found interesting is that Lille is about an hour drive from Gent. But who knows how credible some of the other transfer rumors were. Cblake and Obinna 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SthMelbRed Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 4 minutes ago, narduch said: Probably saw 4th in the table and didn't investigate anything else. A thing I always found interesting is that Lille is about an hour drive from Gent. But who knows how credible some of the other transfer rumors were. Being able to swap from a top-four Belgian side to a top-four French side, with a significant pay rise, and not even having to move houses...who wouldn't look at that very seriously? johnyb, narduch, Cheeta and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Diego Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 I have probably been more critical than others regarding David, but I thought he was very dangerous today. This is the type of match he is built for: against a team that will play high and wants to build from the back. David is best when he space to drive into from deep, that is no secret. But the other part of his game that is great is his pressing. He doesn't chase down defender after defender, but he is great at lulling you into thinking you have more time and a better angle than you actually do -- think the first goal vs Martinique. He stole the ball high up the pitch a couple times today that led to good chances. Against top teams where Lille will cede possession, he must start imo. CanadaFan123 and Cblake 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeoH037 Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 ^^ he created a half chance out of nothing doing just that. He's only 20 years old, something tells me he'll be just fine long term. Cblake 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 24 minutes ago, El Diego said: I have probably been more critical than others regarding David, but I thought he was very dangerous today. This is the type of match he is built for: against a team that will play high and wants to build from the back. David is best when he space to drive into from deep, that is no secret. But the other part of his game that is great is his pressing. He doesn't chase down defender after defender, but he is great at lulling you into thinking you have more time and a better angle than you actually do -- think the first goal vs Martinique. He stole the ball high up the pitch a couple times today that led to good chances. Against top teams where Lille will cede possession, he must start imo. He did that against Mexico too. He stripped Moreno and then fed Cavallini for the goal. Cblake and El Diego 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaFan123 Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 I echo the sentiment that this opponent was tailored for David’s style. It’s a shame. Lille generally isn’t a good fit for him, at least with this personnel or unless he can find a way to adapt his game. Not panicking though - he made an impact today. Cblake 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheeta Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 44 minutes ago, SthMelbRed said: Being able to swap from a top-four Belgian side to a top-four French side, with a significant pay rise, and not even having to move houses...who wouldn't look at that very seriously? And we know absolutely nothing about the details. Deals fall through all the time. Players aren't brought in, others aren't moved out, regardless of the club's master plan. I'm sure David's agent, and David for that matter, did their due diligence. Things may have not evolved as suggested, yet. It's sort have been that type of year for everyone. Footballers included. The Real Marc and Cblake 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SthMelbRed Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 36 minutes ago, El Diego said: I have probably been more critical than others regarding David, but I thought he was very dangerous today. This is the type of match he is built for: against a team that will play high and wants to build from the back. David is best when he space to drive into from deep, that is no secret. But the other part of his game that is great is his pressing. He doesn't chase down defender after defender, but he is great at lulling you into thinking you have more time and a better angle than you actually do -- think the first goal vs Martinique. He stole the ball high up the pitch a couple times today that led to good chances. Against top teams where Lille will cede possession, he must start imo. I honestly think he's the closest thing to a young Bobby Firmino playing in the Big 5 leagues today, albeit with less flair, but more pace. My dream is that Lille's financial trouble forces them to accept bids for JD sooner rather than later, and Liverpool come in for him. Klopp could turn the raw tools that he possesses into an absolute world beater. El Diego and Cblake 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Diego Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 14 minutes ago, SthMelbRed said: I honestly think he's the closest thing to a young Bobby Firmino playing in the Big 5 leagues today, albeit with less flair, but more pace. My dream is that Lille's financial trouble forces them to accept bids for JD sooner rather than later, and Liverpool come in for him. Klopp could turn the raw tools that he possesses into an absolute world beater. I have actually been thinking about the Firmino comparison for David a lot recently. Like you said there are some differences (I would also say Firmino has a better first touch and ability to play in tight spaces) but I think the comparison makes sense. Cblake 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dyslexic nam Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 13 minutes ago, SthMelbRed said: I honestly think he's the closest thing to a young Bobby Firmino playing in the Big 5 leagues today, albeit with less flair, but more pace. My dream is that Lille's financial trouble forces them to accept bids for JD sooner rather than later, and Liverpool come in for him. Klopp could turn the raw tools that he possesses into an absolute world beater. This would be a crazy-positive outcome but I see no chance of it happening. As much as we all root for David and really delve deep to find the reasons why the goals haven’t been coming, the reality is that he hasn’t been delivering and he hasn’t done his marketability any favours. I just don’t see a top club coming in for him when by most metrics he really hasn’t performed well in France. Cblake 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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