Guest Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 16 hours ago, A_Gagne said: Even after a serious injury layoff I doubt Edgar plays USL. A 1 year deal with either another MLS team willing to take a chance on him or lower div England I would suspect. More likely lower div England. At 31, I would suspect his priority is probably consistent PT at a club/level where he could moving up next year/play his way into one last decent (~2 year) contract. I doubt a USL club would give him that shot. At the risk of hijacking this thread to talk about Edgar, I'd say that at 31 his priority is probably money, which is perhaps what you were driving at. With his injury history, I would be surprised to see him offered a contract longer than a year. But if he stays healthy and plays well, those 1 year contracts could carry him along for another 5 years or even longer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 On 14/03/2018 at 2:20 PM, Club Linesman said: Give Van der Wiel some time. He has been much better after his first game. I think the criticism of Van der Wiel stems from unrealistic expectations. Are people expecting him to be the same VDW that played for PSG? Then of course you're disappointed. If you judge him not on his name or history, but just his performance, he has objectively done fine on both ends of the ball - which he should be praised for in my opinion, not criticized. It is not easy to seemlessly fit into a new side in a new league on a new continent. All that being said, Auro has been more impressive going forward and less impressive defensively. Of course though he is getting the rave reviews because he was a no-name with little expectation. I don't think VDW has been any better or worse than Morrow so far, and he's been his usual self, so.... Kadenge and shamrock 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearcatSA Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 6 hours ago, dsqpr said: At the risk of hijacking this thread to talk about Edgar, I'd say that at 31 his priority is probably money, which is perhaps what you were driving at. With his injury history, I would be surprised to see him offered a contract longer than a year. But if he stays healthy and plays well, those 1 year contracts could carry him along for another 5 years or even longer. With the Caps, they already have a CB on a DP rate as well as acquiring another CB in the second year of a four year deal north of $220 K (or even more?), a younger, healthy former MLS starter in the $180 K+ range. Not sure what Henry's fetching for his one year deal but I can't see it being low. So really, I couldn't see them paying a whole lot of money for a 5th CB here (which would usually be a younger prospect type on a league minimum range salary). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gian-Luca Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 https://www.sportsnet.ca/soccer/david-edgar-canada-soccer-national-team-new-zealand-vancouver-whitecaps-mls/ Bison44 and deschamp86 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rheo Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 Signed with Nashville https://www.nashvillesc.com/news_article/show/904188?referrer_id=2591152 Greatest Cockney Rip Off, Dub Narcotic, Bison44 and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 5 minutes ago, Rheo said: Signed with Nashville https://www.nashvillesc.com/news_article/show/904188?referrer_id=2591152 Good to see him sign on somewhere. Perhaps he can stick with them when they move up to MLS. CNMNTPERUELIGIBLE 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yothat Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 has the USL stepped in level of competition? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shway Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 2 minutes ago, yothat said: has the USL stepped in level of competition? It's slowly gotten better, not leaps and bounds...Theres a few quality teams that are better equipped than the rest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bison44 Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 USL teams are bringing in more and more players with decent pedigree. More than half still have some sort of affiliation with a MLS club but there arent as many obvious "farm clubs" full of youngsters left. Still not that much movement from USL to MLS, but it happens. Its more important for Edgar to play, show everyone that his knees are fine and he can still play week in week out. Put himself in the shop window, even if the wages in USL will be a shock. If he can be a BOSS at CB in USL, is fit and sharp there is no reson why he shouldnt get starts for CMNT this fall in CONCACAF nations league. CNMNTPERUELIGIBLE 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ansem Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 2 hours ago, Obinna said: Good to see him sign on somewhere. Perhaps he can stick with them when they move up to MLS. hopefully he gets bought by CPL Bbeto 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 Nashville - great city to live and play in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 CPL player next year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruffian Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 1 hour ago, Ansem said: hopefully he gets bought by CPL If he wants to go to CPL lets hope he didn't sign a multi year contract and need to be bought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 3 hours ago, yothat said: has the USL stepped in level of competition? Yes. yothat 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 2 hours ago, Ansem said: hopefully he gets bought by CPL I love how everytime a guy signs in USL, we say "hope he moves to CPL". If I had to choose between David Edgar signing in the CPL, and David Edgar signing with Nashville SC for their inaugural MLS season, I would take the latter. Why? Because I want my national team players playing at the higest level possible, and in 2020 that will be MLS. snick, WheatsheafSK, johnyb and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bison44 Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 11 minutes ago, Obinna said: I love how everytime a guy signs in USL, we say "hope he moves to CPL". If I had to choose between David Edgar signing in the CPL, and David Edgar signing with Nashville SC for their inaugural MLS season, I would take the latter. Why? Because I want my national team players playing at the higest level possible, and in 2020 that will be MLS. For Edgar and his ilk, sure. But there is a reason he is dropping a league (over 30 and bad knees). And a very good chance he can go back up. Younger players struggling for minutes in USL (Nanco, D.Haber, Ricci, Riggi, Heard etc), what do they have to lose? I do want for them to look at the CPL. USL-CPL will be close to a lateral move for these kids and with quotas on CDN players they'll get some time to show their skills. Obinna 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 20 minutes ago, Bison44 said: For Edgar and his ilk, sure. But there is a reason he is dropping a league (over 30 and bad knees). And a very good chance he can go back up. Younger players struggling for minutes in USL (Nanco, D.Haber, Ricci, Riggi, Heard etc), what do they have to lose? I do want for them to look at the CPL. USL-CPL will be close to a lateral move for these kids and with quotas on CDN players they'll get some time to show their skills. Agreed. Depends on the player, but with Edgar it was one-too-many a case of people calling for established national team players to sign in the CPL. Maybe someday, the league will be strong enough to support the base of our national team, with our top guys in either MLS, Liga MX or Europe. It is going to take time. romurra 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kent Posted April 5, 2018 Share Posted April 5, 2018 3 hours ago, Obinna said: Agreed. Depends on the player, but with Edgar it was one-too-many a case of people calling for established national team players to sign in the CPL. Maybe someday, the league will be strong enough to support the base of our national team, with our top guys in either MLS, Liga MX or Europe. It is going to take time. When MLS started they had the entire (I believe, maybe one or two guys were exceptions) US national team come to play in the league. Raises the level and the perception of the league to have guys like Edgar in the league (at least incrementally). Any national teamer that plays in the league I will be happy about. Short term pain for long term gain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted April 5, 2018 Share Posted April 5, 2018 1 hour ago, Kent said: When MLS started they had the entire (I believe, maybe one or two guys were exceptions) US national team come to play in the league. Raises the level and the perception of the league to have guys like Edgar in the league (at least incrementally). Any national teamer that plays in the league I will be happy about. Short term pain for long term gain. Please no more pain, being a NT fan is hard enough as it is While I get your point, I don't think any of our players is a big enough name to change the perception of the league. I think we'd do better to bring in big foreign names for that. Names people recognize. MLS has been criticized for being a retirement league, but I wouldn't mind at all if the CPL had that stigma at first. We're going to need something to draw casual fans, who probably wouldn't show to see David Edgar as a headliner. I would, but I am not a casual MtlMario, BCM, romurra and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deschamp86 Posted April 5, 2018 Share Posted April 5, 2018 16 hours ago, Obinna said: I love how everytime a guy signs in USL, we say "hope he moves to CPL". If I had to choose between David Edgar signing in the CPL, and David Edgar signing with Nashville SC for their inaugural MLS season, I would take the latter. Why? Because I want my national team players playing at the higest level possible, and in 2020 that will be MLS. TBH Edgar at 32 probably won't be a starter for us (or hopefully not if we have better options at that point). So to have him playing in MLS would be nice, but I'd rather have younger players in CPL learning from him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted April 5, 2018 Share Posted April 5, 2018 Just now, deschamp86 said: TBH Edgar at 32 probably won't be a starter for us (or hopefully not if we have better options at that point). So to have him playing in MLS would be nice, but I'd rather have younger players in CPL learning from him 32 is not that old for a centre back. If he was like 36 I would be more inclined to agree. Edgar as a former Canadian international playing in the CPL is fine with me, but as long as guys are capable of competing for us internationally, I would prefer they not be in the CPL. Now if the standard is much better than I anticipate, then i'll have a different view, but I don't expect it to be that strong at first. At the pace the USL is developing, it may not even be at that level when it launches. toontownman, romurra, SpecialK and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCM Posted April 5, 2018 Share Posted April 5, 2018 Gotta show love for @Obinna in this thread. Spot on, as usual. WheatsheafSK and Obinna 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stryker911 Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 I don't believe the details between the current Nashville SC USL club and the 2020 Nashville MLS club have been finalized yet. Whether it will be a merger or a buy-out, however it does seem like they are affiliated in some way. It wouldn't be the worst thing for him to play this year and next in the USL and then hopefully move with the club to the MLS. He would be the same age in 2020 that Jakovic is this year. Obinna 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_M Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 John Ingram of the Nashville mls team bought a majority stake in the usl team in 2017 https://www.tennessean.com/story/news/2017/05/04/john-ingram-buys-majority-stake-nashville-sc-aligning-efforts-mls-bid/101278348/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mluciani Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 I guess he is a free agent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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