gator Posted January 9, 2018 Author Share Posted January 9, 2018 1 minute ago, Obinna said: Wasn't Grizzly just defending the CSA in another thread? Nice timing Grizz lol Yes and I agreed with what he was saying but this is beyond a joke, what other country in the world would make a move like this, they have probably just fucked up two programs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dyslexic nam Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 3 minutes ago, matty said: OZ got sacked it seems. Gonna say this, if things weren't working out with him behind the scenes then I'm glad they actually acted and didn't sit still but jeez what a fucking shocker. Thats in the post article ("fired") but Mollinaro put the question directly to Reed: Asked to characterize the terms of Zambrano’s departure, whether he was fired or he left by mutual consent, Reed said: “It was an organizational decision. He has departed from Canada Soccer. We wish him the best of luck.” Seems like there is some ambiguity at this point. still odd as hell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floortom Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 I’m guessing CSA fired Zambrano because he was rocking the boat too much and wanted to make too many changes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 Terrible new for men's and women's programs! Would have preferred they leave Herdman in place and re-start the search for another men's coach. I hope the reason for OZ's departure comes out in due course. Bummer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrennanFan Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 I heard about this last night. I was told that Zambrano was not getting along with anyone at the CSA. Now they have someone who knows how to work with the CSA. My view: This is probably a terrible decision. Zambrano was rocking the boat, so instead of looking to change their ways, the CSA brings in their Yes-Man. The Old Boys Club has reared its ugly head once again. Same old CSA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gator Posted January 9, 2018 Author Share Posted January 9, 2018 I shouldn't be shocked after all these years of following Canadian soccer but I am! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harrycoyster Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 2 minutes ago, Complete Homer said: typical infighting... Odds are its the latter 1 minute ago, Floortom said: I’m guessing CSA fired Zambrano because he was rocking the boat too much and wanted to make too many changes. Bingo. This reeks of "who does he think he is to tell us how to run the program?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gator Posted January 9, 2018 Author Share Posted January 9, 2018 Just now, harrycoyster said: Bingo. This reeks of "who does he think he is to tell us how to run the program?" Yes, you wonder why they hired him to begin with? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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king1010 Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 I thought this was a joke when i read it. wtf happened. Womens soccer is not Mens soccer. Zambrano had us playing good football . wtf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dyslexic nam Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 My concern with Herdman is that what I have seen of his skill set was largely about motivation and rallying the troops. Not that we don't need that, but I haven't seen a lot that tells me much about his tactical knowledge. Sure the women played a more possession based game, but so has everyone else who has evolved from punt and chase. Herdman was a great people manager, and I think it worked well with our women's team, but I don't know if that approach will work with the guys. Apologies if some of that comes across as sexist, but I am just not convinced that Herdman is the guy for the CMNT. A young guy, without a solid pedigree in the men's game, and who doesn't have a personal playing career as street cred? I am just not convinced. Maybe he is a great student if the game and a brilliant tactician - in fact I hope he is given his new role - but I am very worried... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gator Posted January 9, 2018 Author Share Posted January 9, 2018 So much for convincing fence sitters to get on board, players are not stupid and know there is so much difference between the two games! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 Amateur hour at the CSA and now we have an amateur coach. What an utterly ridiculous situation. With all due respect to John, of course. I'm sure he's a great coach in his own right, but I cannot see him getting respect from our players, which has been a problem for past coaches with a much better resume than he has. Someone at the CSA must have thought, "gee he's done a great job with the women's, should be a seamless transition". I want to know what individuals are responsible for this decision! Zambrano wanted to do things his way? God, why stand in the man's way? You brought him in for his expertise and so he can change the culture and he then you complain? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 Next new CPL launch confirmed for 2018 but will instead be a coed league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harrycoyster Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 From the updated article: “We felt as an organization that we needed to make some decisions for the longer term and our long-term philosophy, looking at growth of the men’s national team program and the youth development program. In terms of that review, we determined that we had the ideal candidate internally in John Herdman,” Canada Soccer president Steve Reed explained in a one-on-one interview with Sportsnet. “We thought now was the time to look to John to lead the men’s program and emulate what he’s done with the women’s program.” One well-place source told Sportsnet that Zambrano’s tenure as coach was viewed as “a disaster” within some quarters of Canada Soccer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king1010 Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 if zambrano was fired becaused he wanted to implement change we need to fire up the Sack the CSA campaign again. this is ridiculous. does his pedigree command respect from ppl looking to join our program? no offense to John. This just screams mickey mouse amateur hour. who would want to play for us after this jesus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king1010 Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 1 minute ago, harrycoyster said: From the updated article: “We felt as an organization that we needed to make some decisions for the longer term and our long-term philosophy, looking at growth of the men’s national team program and the youth development program. In terms of that review, we determined that we had the ideal candidate internally in John Herdman,” Canada Soccer president Steve Reed explained in a one-on-one interview with Sportsnet. “We thought now was the time to look to John to lead the men’s program and emulate what he’s done with the women’s program.” One well-place source told Sportsnet that Zambrano’s tenure as coach was viewed as “a disaster” within some quarters of Canada Soccer. why was it a disaster? because we actually advanced out of the group stage of the Gold CUp? did players not like him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 1 minute ago, harrycoyster said: From the updated article: One well-place source told Sportsnet that Zambrano’s tenure as coach was viewed as “a disaster” within some quarters of Canada Soccer. So out of touch it's not even funny. What a clown show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gator Posted January 9, 2018 Author Share Posted January 9, 2018 Just now, king1010 said: if zambrano was fired becaused he wanted to implement change we need to fire up the Sack the CSA campaign again. this is ridiculous. does his pedigree command respect from ppl looking to join our program? no offense to John. This just screams mickey mouse amateur hour. who would want to play for us after this jesus Completely agree and I still have the t-shirt! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 Is that the quarter of Canada Soccer that calls it soccer but has never watched it. How dare he not get us to the hex. Fire him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 WTF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 4 minutes ago, king1010 said: did players not like him? Can be the only reasonable explanation when tied in with no one in the office and CSA getting rid too. On the outside i think he did a great job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 Just now, gator said: Completely agree and I still have the t-shirt! And this time they have a much larger social media presence. Okay boys...ready...aim...fire! #SacktheCSA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gator Posted January 9, 2018 Author Share Posted January 9, 2018 I feel almost worse than when we get eliminated from World Cup Qualifying, with Zambrano and the young players I thought there was some hope, this is a gong show! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nolbertos Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 Sorry but I see this as another negative for the CSA. Zambrano wasn’t even a world class coach, but that he bolted or gave up on the National team probably means rhe CSA wanted him do more than what his job description dictated. I remember he was gung ho and I believe he even stated that he joined the program on the condition Canada was to get its own league. Maybe he realized nothing is happening anytime soon and bolted, still Herdman as coach, screams of CSA cheapness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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