ted Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 Yeah, I don't care who the coach is or when he/she is hired, "hex or bust" is my absolute minimum to stay in the job and should be written into the contract. No hex = no job + no severance MtlMario 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masster Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 He (Stamkos) was buoyed by former men’s national team head coach Octavio Zambrano telling him late last year that he planned to send out more scouts than ever before to identify more Canadian standouts. Zambrano was fired earlier this month, replaced by former women’s national team head coach John Herdman. Stamkos hopes the Englishman follows up on his predecessor’s promise. https://www.thestar.com/sports/soccer/2018/01/20/canada-shut-out-in-superdrafts-first-round-but-theres-talent-in-the-pipeline.html Scorpion26 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masster Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 Irfaan Gaffar (@sportsnetirf) 2018-01-22, 11:08 AM Marcel de Jong says John Herdman sent each player on #CanMNT a letter introducing himself and his philosophies. Says it was interesting to read. Added the change caught him off-guard and found out about it online. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unnamed Trialist Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 42 minutes ago, masster said: Irfaan Gaffar (@sportsnetirf) 2018-01-22, 11:08 AM Marcel de Jong says John Herdman sent each player on #CanMNT a letter introducing himself and his philosophies. Says it was interesting to read. Added the change caught him off-guard and found out about it online. Of course, if you realize you can't send them a video of how you coach men's soccer, you have to write a letter. What do you call that when you have philosophies without experience? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearcatSA Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 1 hour ago, masster said: Irfaan Gaffar (@sportsnetirf) 2018-01-22, 11:08 AM Marcel de Jong says John Herdman sent each player on #CanMNT a letter introducing himself and his philosophies. Says it was interesting to read. Added the change caught him off-guard and found out about it online. When De Jong says "each player," I wonder how many players in total received this letter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matty Posted January 23, 2018 Author Share Posted January 23, 2018 23 minutes ago, BearcatSA said: When De Jong says "each player," I wonder how many players in total received this letter? guessing 60ish including fringe and youth talent. Our known pool is like 80-100. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 43 minutes ago, Unnamed Trialist said: Of course, if you realize you can't send them a video of how you coach men's soccer, you have to write a letter. What do you call that when you have philosophies without experience? And what about those that are illiterate and post illiterate. No thought. He should be disappointed in himself. Yeah. I don't have a problem with a letter. I don't think he is teaching them set plays or trying to coach through his letter. A video would be cringeworthy and totally unneccesary for talking about his basic philosophies of football. The worry is the amount of time from now until he actually meets them face to face to follow up. While I am sure he will be making visits and meeting with senior players over the next little while we really need that opportunity to get everyone together soon. Probably once this has died down a bit more. dbailey62 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 Maybe we aren't giving him enough credit for his mystique. Maybe he literally sent a letter to each player. DeJong got E for experience Alphonso got Y for youth Ocean got excited to get a letter until he realised it was R for retire. Damn CSA vendettas. Honestly though I think follow up phone calls in the least is a necessity and more personal than a letter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrennanFan Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 man, herdman has "nice guy finishes last" written all over him. (hope im wrong) Unnamed Trialist 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpg75 Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 Apparently some of the veterans received gift baskets with Body Shop products in it... toontownman, Obinna, Bikerack and 4 others 2 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unnamed Trialist Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 Herdman politely explained he was transitioning, the letter was part of his reassignment therapy. Sorry, couldn't resist. Bikerack 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One American Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 Late to the party, still flabbergasted by this move. It's either a stroke of genius or it's going to end in disaster and dissent. Obinna 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matty Posted January 23, 2018 Author Share Posted January 23, 2018 2 hours ago, Unnamed Trialist said: Herdman politely explained he was transitioning, the letter was part of his reassignment therapy. Sorry, couldn't resist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L.MODRIC Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 who does Herdman bring into his coaching staff? 1.Paul Stalteri who else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, L.MODRIC said: who does Herdman bring into his coaching staff? 1.Paul Stalteri who else? Did he mention his coaching staff in am interview already? Someone mentioned findlay will be on board. Edit: Abdel the goalkeeping coach under Zambrano is now at LAFC. So expect a new/old face there. Edited January 23, 2018 by toontownman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ref Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 Herdman needs to surround himself with good people so as to cover his behind. L.MODRIC 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrennanFan Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 predicting his assistants will be Stalteri and deVos. Odd that we still havent heard a peep from deVos about all this. He's normally pretty active on twitter, and he's not tweeted once since it happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 4 minutes ago, BrennanFan said: predicting his assistants will be Stalteri and deVos. Odd that we still havent heard a peep from deVos about all this. He's normally pretty active on twitter, and he's not tweeted once since it happened. Got himself tied up in strings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gian-Luca Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 19 hours ago, BearcatSA said: When De Jong says "each player," I wonder how many players in total received this letter? If it wasn't every single player in the pool, he's already potentially struck the first blow in the team harmony that I'm sure he'll want to be creating. Imagine if you are a player who hasn't received one of these letters but hears that others have done so...... I also wonder if it was personalized, or if it read "Dear Star/Regular/Fringe (Delete as Applicable) Member of the Canadian National Team....." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dyslexic nam Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 The thing that bugs me most about this whole development is that I can't convince myself to come around and cheer him on just because it is CMNT. I get the whole idea that it is done, so we might as well get behind him, but it still feels so brutal on so many levels. And part of me rails against that approach because it seems like letting him and the CSA off the hook so easily for what looks like a complete hatchet job - on multiple levels. Yet I don't want to just perpetually bitch about it/him as that will be completely unhelpful. I am genuinely conflicted about this. Grizzly and Obinna 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gian-Luca Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 14 hours ago, L.MODRIC said: who does Herdman bring into his coaching staff? 1.Paul Stalteri who else? In a worst case scenario it will be 1. Paul Mariner 2. Mike Milbury 3. Diego Maradona Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 14 minutes ago, Gian-Luca said: If it wasn't every single player in the pool, he's already potentially struck the first blow in the team harmony that I'm sure he'll want to be creating. Imagine if you are a player who hasn't received one of these letters but hears that others have done so...... I also wonder if it was personalized, or if it read "Dear Star/Regular/Fringe (Delete as Applicable) Member of the Canadian National Team....." Obinna, jpg75, BuzzAndSting and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bison44 Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 How about.. 1. Colin Miller, 2. Stephen Hart, Dale Mitchell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1996 Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 51 minutes ago, toontownman said: Got himself tied up in strings. Tells you all one needs to know about Devos and this whole development. Like you said a guy who is always on social media has not said boo about this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kent Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 Is this what to expect going forward? People are going to criticize Herdman for writing a letter? I get the feeling people are going to jump all over him even if he gets outstanding results. ob1, toontownman, Rheo and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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