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Alessandro Busti - 18 year old keeper with Juventus


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On 7/17/2021 at 8:45 PM, bwilly11 said:

How do you go from the youngest CMNT starting GK, while training with the Juventus first team to this? What a disappointing fall. He must have a shit agent or zero confidence in his ability. You'd think he could come to the CPL team or a Scandinavian type league and get at least get a pro contract . Non-professional football though? Close the thread, he's now essentially a Sunday League player like many of us. Reminds me of Josh Doughty just throwing in the towel after ManUtd. There is a solid foundation there, why give up?

Once again, its a reminder that major academies don't mean much at all. Nothing but brand hype.

Quite the contrary. If you have a decent agent, anyone coming out of an academy like that should have a pro career,. Or at least not be stunted at 20 years old. 

It's a question of managing your capital, and La Juve beside his name was part of that. 

Later, if it doesn't pan out, that's another question. 

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On 7/17/2021 at 4:46 PM, Weng said:

Reading De Rosario’s book, if the attitude he received from some players in Italy and perhaps staff regarding Canadians is entrenched throughout Italy, maybe it isn’t that surprising we haven’t had players develop as we thought they would.

Yup I’m of Italian heritage, both my parents are from Italy they came here in the late 1950’s when they were in their early 20’s , but there seems to be a big stigma even attached to Canadian kids of Italian heritage in Italy when it comes to soccer. I find it very strange that apart from Enzo Concina who had a decent career in Serie B Italy’s second tier that no Canadian even of Italian heritage has had any career or played at any of the top 3 tiers in Italy. We’ve had players playing  at decent levels in all the  top 5 soccer countries in Europe but apart from Concina who played at a decent level in Italy no one else . I just think as soon as they know a player is from Canada a stigma is placed on them.  However, slowly this should  change  with what Davies, Larin and David are doing , but yes Canadian players have not been given the chance in Italy like they have had in other countries and I don’t think is was purely based on talent but also on from the fact they were from Canada unfortunately. However, saying all that in this case with Busti don’t think this was the case because even though born in Canada he grew up from a very young age in Italy and for all intent and purposes was looked at as an Italian player, so unfortunately maybe he is just not good enough who knows.

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Funny how that is SoccMan.  While Germany (another top tier league) seems extremely open and inviting to CDN (from top to bottom) and has for a long time.  You would have thought Stalteri or maybe Corrazin could have got a shot in Italy.  

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6 minutes ago, Bison44 said:

Funny how that is SoccMan.  While Germany (another top tier league) seems extremely open and inviting to CDN (from top to bottom) and has for a long time.  You would have thought Stalteri or maybe Corrazin could have got a shot in Italy.  

Or Peschidolido. 

The theory I see a lot is that the best Italian Canadian athletes end up in hockey. 

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Well all the guys mentioned were good enough to play in the top tiers in Italy, its not like we havnt had good italian/canadians.  A seemingly cultural (that soccman is talking about) bias against them in Italy is strange. 

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On 7/17/2021 at 5:19 PM, Dominic94 said:

I think it’s been said/floated that he just wasn’t that good to begin with.

Big club academy and big club aren’t the same thing. 

This. The one cap he made for us it was clear as day that he wasn't close to being good enough for that level. He got called up simply because he was in Juve's academy and i'm gonna take a guess that they never actually went and watched him play before calling him up.

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3 hours ago, SoccMan said:

I find it very strange that apart from Enzo Concina who had a decent career in Serie B Italy’s second tier that no Canadian even of Italian heritage has had any career or played at any of the top 3 tiers in Italy.

Wrong, Julian Uccello played in Serie B..retired at 25 diagnosed with MS

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18 minutes ago, Big_M said:

Rocco Placentino and Andrea Lombardo also played in Serie B

Didn't all 3 guys you mentioned play 1 game in Serie B?

I recall we had a guy at Benevento but I forget his name now. Not sure if they were in Serie B at the time

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3 hours ago, Bison44 said:

Funny how that is SoccMan.  While Germany (another top tier league) seems extremely open and inviting to CDN (from top to bottom) and has for a long time.  You would have thought Stalteri or maybe Corrazin could have got a shot in Italy.  

Placentino had a good five or six years. Corazzin had the opportunity to go to Serie B after the Gold Cup win but turned it down. Brescia I believe.

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I’m talking about players actually playing a few seasons in either serie b or even a not guys who had basically had an espresso in serie b or a  and then where done. The only one is still Enzo Concina  who actually had a career there .

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I can't find the Concina's career stats. The best I could come up with is this:

Canadians in Serie B:

Julian Uccello - 5 games with Crotone in 2010/2011

Rocco Placentino - 2 games with Avellino in 2003/2004

Andrea Lombardo - 1 game with Atalanta in 2005/2006

Axel Desjardins - 1 game with Spezia in 2019/2020

 

 

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Sandro Grande.   Played in Serie B.   Came back and finished his career with the Impact. He was a very underrated player for Canada. He got a shot to play for the NT under Yallop (i think it was Yallop) and he was very good.

 

edit:  @The Real Marc already mentioned this.  Just noticed now.

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7 hours ago, narduch said:

He never played above Serie C2. I believe he was on Brescia while they were in Serie A but he was always loaned out. 

He did score against Spain.

 

Wasnt Brescia in Serie B while he was there?  They may have gotten promoted.

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Parameters of the request aside, I don’t think a multi-year career in the Serie Cs is anything to put down - we’ve regularly celebrated (and called up) guys from iffy European second tiers, like Scotland or Denmark or Belgium or Norway, plus the English third and fourth and fifth divisions.

Will agree though that it’s interesting how Nats we’ve had in tier two England and Germany but so few in tier two Italy -ditto Spain (Hume, Kevin De Serpa) or France besides Dasovic’s one year stint.

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12 hours ago, narduch said:

 

He did score against Spain.

 

He also tried to strangle one of our current assistant coaches. In fairness to him:

(a) the assistant coach survived the attack;

(b) even if he had succeeded in killing him, we have about another 4 or 5 assistant coaches these days, so attempting to strangle 1 of out of every 5 assistant coaches is actually a pretty low percentage when you think about it.

😉

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