Stoppage Time Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 On 8/24/2022 at 3:03 PM, Watchmen said: Oh, McCallum is an idiot. Even if they lured the BC Lions (possible) and Whitecaps (doubtful) there's no justification for it. It's an election headline grabber. Having said that, I've heard previously that Surrey does want a pro-team of some sort and is willing to build a stadium/arena for it. So yes, my take is still that if they considered the CPL to be bigger, they'd have built a stadium for them. And it's an open secret that's where the CPL team wanted to be. At election time: "No, no. no," exclaimed an adamant mayor McCallum. "It was a typo. A typo, I tell you! I clearly said 6,000 for a stadium for Surrey. Not 60,000! Where do you people get these crazy ideas?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unnamed Trialist Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 (edited) On 8/25/2022 at 1:20 AM, narduch said: Does Vancouver need a 60,000 seat stadium? Are you talking about BC Place or the Surrey proposal? @Kingstonhave you ever been to BC Place game day? Your comparison with CPL in Ottawa or Winnipeg does not work at all. At TD, AtO has never reached 25% capacity. At IG, Valour has barely got to 15%. Excepting this year's bad post Covid attendance for Whitecaps, lower bowl attendance historically averages over 80% with the upper usually blocked from view, and pushing 40% of the entire stadium with the upper part never opened to fans. Then they proved they could sell out a "decent" friendly (Iran) not to mention what an official qualifier might do. The path CPL teams in oversize stadiums have to take to look respectable is much more arduous than Caps at BC Place. Edited August 26, 2022 by Unnamed Trialist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingston Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 4 hours ago, Unnamed Trialist said: @Kingstonhave you ever been to BC Place game day? Your comparison with CPL in Ottawa or Winnipeg does not work at all. At TD, AtO has never reached 25% capacity. At IG, Valour has barely got to 15%. Excepting this year's bad post Covid attendance for Whitecaps, lower bowl attendance historically averages over 80% with the upper usually blocked from view, and pushing 40% of the entire stadium with the upper part never opened to fans. Then they proved they could sell out a "decent" friendly (Iran) not to mention what an official qualifier might do. The path CPL teams in oversize stadiums have to take to look respectable is much more arduous than Caps at BC Place. I've never been to a game at BC Place (although I'd love to). My point was mainly that 60 000 for MLS or CFL stadium for CPL are both significantly oversized, not really to compare the degree of oversizedness. But I'm glad the Caps games feel full in the lower bowl. Certainly BC Place has sold out for NT games but I don't know that the new stadium would be built at 60 000 for the occasional NT game. Unnamed Trialist 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchmen Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 McCallum was on the sports talk radio station this morning. It was a rambling mess, and they eventually just cut him off. Stanley and PegCityCam 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unnamed Trialist Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 17 hours ago, Watchmen said: McCallum was on the sports talk radio station this morning. It was a rambling mess, and they eventually just cut him off. Most Honourable Mayor of Slurry? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJB Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 Don't forget the McCallum has a court date looming, and this announcement does a great job deflecting from that. Stanley 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 The newest Northern Futbol has a bit of an update. Mostly vague but they say an announcement with more details should be comping soon. They mentioned that the club has been hiring office staff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aird25 Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 https://onesoccer.ca/a/after-pacific-fc-success-rob-friend-is-looking-to-hit-ground-running-once-again-with-vancouver-cpl-side narduch, Ivan and Trois Reds 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpursFlu Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Aird25 said: https://onesoccer.ca/a/after-pacific-fc-success-rob-friend-is-looking-to-hit-ground-running-once-again-with-vancouver-cpl-side Well at least I'll only have a few minute drive to see Pacific play a couple times a year Edited September 2, 2022 by SpursFlu ted 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchmen Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 10 hours ago, Aird25 said: https://onesoccer.ca/a/after-pacific-fc-success-rob-friend-is-looking-to-hit-ground-running-once-again-with-vancouver-cpl-side Really doubling down on the "We're naming it Vancouver" I see, despite the local supporters I know pushing hard not to do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aird25 Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 11 hours ago, Watchmen said: Really doubling down on the "We're naming it Vancouver" I see, despite the local supporters I know pushing hard not to do so. I call all teams in CPL by their main city’s name (Winnipeg, Toronto, Calgary, Victoria etc) anyways, because nobody knows where they’re from or where Langford, York, Foothills, or Langley are. If it was a grass roots club I’d understand the concern, but these teams represent large areas in Canada ted 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchmen Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 1 hour ago, Aird25 said: I call all teams in CPL by their main city’s name (Winnipeg, Toronto, Calgary, Victoria etc) anyways, because nobody knows where they’re from or where Langford, York, Foothills, or Langley are. If it was a grass roots club I’d understand the concern, but these teams represent large areas in Canada Yeah, this is the problem here though. It's too far from Vancouver to attract Vancouver residents (of any number, on any consistent basis). And the initial fan response was that they're in the valley and wanted it to represent them. That they *were* viewing it as closer to a "grass roots club" and something to distinguish themselves from the Whitecaps. This move has made them (from those I've heard from so far) very unhappy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aird25 Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 17 minutes ago, Watchmen said: Yeah, this is the problem here though. It's too far from Vancouver to attract Vancouver residents (of any number, on any consistent basis). And the initial fan response was that they're in the valley and wanted it to represent them. That they *were* viewing it as closer to a "grass roots club" and something to distinguish themselves from the Whitecaps. This move has made them (from those I've heard from so far) very unhappy. I suspect the club has talked to more people than you have, but who knows. I just know that everyone I bring to games or introduce to the league wants to know what city the opposition is from ted and Pottsy3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzie_the_parrot Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 Suspect the York 9 experience may have soured people associated with the league on Fraser Valley branding and then there's the whole Vancouver as 2026 host city angle. is there any kind of organized fan group for this new club so far? That angle has been surprisingly quiet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchmen Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 38 minutes ago, Ozzie_the_parrot said: Is there any kind of organized fan group for this new club so far? That angle has been surprisingly quiet. Yes. And I know a few of them. And yes, I'm surprised how quiet it's been. Though admitted they're likely using platforms I'm not on. 59 minutes ago, Aird25 said: I suspect the club has talked to more people than you have, but who knows. I just know that everyone I bring to games or introduce to the league wants to know what city the opposition is from I have talked to a number of people organizing the supporters group. They have all spoken to Friend and co multiple times about how much they dislike it being called "Vancouver". We know why Friend wants to call it Vancouver. It's for purely business reasons, and that's fine. But I know people who have been screaming for a CPL team because of how tired they were of the "corporate" Whitecaps who "just don't understand fan support", and this is basically the opposite of what they wanted. I'm sure lots of them will still go out and support the team, but it's still starting off on the wrong foot. And trying to treat "all of Vancouver" as "the community" is a tough go as well, because that's going head to head with the Whitecaps. ted 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpursFlu Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 (edited) I think you can definitely find people in that area who are indifferent to the name being called Vancouver but I can guarantee you there is nobody who likes the team being called Vancouver and you definitely have people annoyed and turned off. But if when they talk to business people in Europe and agents they'd rather say they're from a team in Vancouver, hey its their team and I guess that's the way its gonna be. Good luck I'll check out the odd game but I won't be representing the team in a way I was hoping to. Basically because that shits embarrassing Edited September 3, 2022 by SpursFlu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDNFootballer Posted September 4, 2022 Author Share Posted September 4, 2022 I'll be one of the first in line to buy season tickets and have no problem with the club having Vancouver in the team name. It makes sense business wise as its a major market in Canada's Top tier pro league, and the club is locating itself in Greater Vancouver. As for attracting Vancouver residents, its the greater Vancouver residents they'll be targeting basically and not the City of Vancouver residents. With regards to the CPL teams city names, the local paper already lists the CPL standings that way and I think the league will move to use them more in the future as well in their communications/media. In the end don't think there will be many that won't support the team for a frivolous reason like having Vancouver in the name imo. Cheeta 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ted Posted September 4, 2022 Share Posted September 4, 2022 10 hours ago, Watchmen said: I have talked to a number of people organizing the supporters group. They have all spoken to Friend and co multiple times about how much they dislike it being called "Vancouver". OK, but I am sure I have seen some of them wearing the VAN/CPL T-shirts anyway. <shrug> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchmen Posted September 4, 2022 Share Posted September 4, 2022 9 hours ago, ted said: OK, but I am sure I have seen some of them wearing the VAN/CPL T-shirts anyway. <shrug> Ha, fair. ted 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJB Posted September 4, 2022 Share Posted September 4, 2022 21 hours ago, SpursFlu said: I think you can definitely find people in that area who are indifferent to the name being called Vancouver but I can guarantee you there is nobody who likes the team being called Vancouver and you definitely have people annoyed and turned off. But if when they talk to business people in Europe and agents they'd rather say they're from a team in Vancouver, hey its their team and I guess that's the way its gonna be. Good luck I'll check out the odd game but I won't be representing the team in a way I was hoping to. Basically because that shits embarrassing Because of the name? Seems a bit petty. PegCityCam 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJB Posted September 4, 2022 Share Posted September 4, 2022 They can call it what they want. I prefer a name that isn't Vancouver, but it won't turn me off. Has the name Vancouver Metro come up? ted and PegCityCam 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ted Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 6 hours ago, RJB said: They can call it what they want. I prefer a name that isn't Vancouver, but it won't turn me off. I hate the name and badge but I show up to as many games as I can and sing myself hoarse each time I got to Starlight Stadium. nolando, RJB, CDNFootballer and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unnamed Trialist Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 (edited) On 9/3/2022 at 9:25 PM, Watchmen said: Yes. And I know a few of them. And yes, I'm surprised how quiet it's been. Though admitted they're likely using platforms I'm not on. I have talked to a number of people organizing the supporters group. They have all spoken to Friend and co multiple times about how much they dislike it being called "Vancouver". We know why Friend wants to call it Vancouver. It's for purely business reasons, and that's fine. But I know people who have been screaming for a CPL team because of how tired they were of the "corporate" Whitecaps who "just don't understand fan support", and this is basically the opposite of what they wanted. I'm sure lots of them will still go out and support the team, but it's still starting off on the wrong foot. And trying to treat "all of Vancouver" as "the community" is a tough go as well, because that's going head to head with the Whitecaps. Friend's right and the "supporters" are wrong. In any case, I seriously doubt any decent alternative is coming from these supposed fans. Of a team that does not exist. "We're fans of a non existent team, with no games, players, coach. Since we're extremely relevant, don't call it by the name of the city we all identify with. The name we say we're from when away." Apart: saying "corporate" Whitecaps means you don't know what corporate means. And you're afraid to go toe to toe with the Caps. Edited September 5, 2022 by Unnamed Trialist CDNFootballer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoppage Time Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 1 hour ago, Unnamed Trialist said: Friend's right and the "supporters" are wrong. In any case, I seriously doubt any decent alternative is coming from these supposed fans. Of a team that does not exist. "We're fans of a non existent team, with no games, players, coach. Since we're extremely relevant, don't call it by the name of the city we all identify with. The name we say we're from when away." Apart: saying "corporate" Whitecaps means you don't know what corporate means. And you're afraid to go toe to toe with the Caps. Metro Vancouver Sustainable Cooperation FC. The only way for everybody to get along. "In the valley of the jolly, ho, ho, ho, Friendly giant." Everybody sing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheeta Posted September 6, 2022 Share Posted September 6, 2022 1 hour ago, Stoppage Time said: Metro Vancouver Sustainable Cooperation FC. The only way for everybody to get along. "In the valley of the jolly, ho, ho, ho, Friendly giant." Everybody sing! No Bias FC. (It's a Vancouver thing. Lets see how many people get it). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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