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We just have to hope that this is more successful than the last time a La Liga team tried to operate a team in North America with Rayo OKC. That was a dumpster fire to say the least. 

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2 hours ago, Cblake said:

Why would those match-ups not work?

Pacific vs Edmonton -> winner vs Vancouver

York 9 vs Masters FA -> winner vs Toronto

Halifax vs Blainville  -> winner vs Montreal

Valour vs Forge -> winner vs ?

Ottawa vs Cavalry -> winner vs ?

You must be thinking that Valour/Forge winner could play Ottawa vs Cavalry winner. Theoretically that could work, but isn't that unfairly punishing Cavalry? The Cavs advanced past Vancouver last year, so if any of those teams must drop a round, shouldn't it be the Whitecaps?

Such a move wouldn't be good for the sporting integrity of the tournament. It would make last year's results meaningless. People would accuse the organizers of MLS favoritism. The optics wouldn't be good. 

So while the match ups could work, I don't think they would work, if you know what I mean..

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57 minutes ago, Terry_Canuck said:

Happy to see this happen as it will probably mean an evenly balanced 28 game schedule now.

I would hate to see a re-draw for the Voyageurs Cup though.

Echo that.  Would be even happier to bury the spring/fall season format from 2019.

 

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On players, I wouldn't be surprised if they pick up a few on loan from the 3 MLS sides (like the Fury did) and likely sign a few ex Fury players still out of contract; that with the loans from the parent will probably provide the backbone of the side for Year 1.

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8 minutes ago, Obinna said:

I figured they would do that. I don't mind it! 

Athletico Ottawa has more of a ring to it though, if you ask me.

Sigh. I would say that I don't hate it but there were a lot of better alternatives IMHO. Not surprising though. I'll learn to live with it and cheer hard against Atletico Madrid in future (I'm sure they'll be devastated).

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8 minutes ago, Lofty said:

Sigh. I would say that I don't hate it but there were a lot of better alternatives IMHO. Not surprising though. I'll learn to live with it and cheer hard against Atletico Madrid in future.

It's marginally better than Real Salt Lake, due to the fact that Athletico are the owners. 

I guess it's actually more akin to New York City FC.

Like most people, I typically don't like such naming, but the reason why I don't mind it (in this case) is because it's a break from the standard CPL names, such as Valour FC, York 9 FC, Cavalry FC, Pacific FC...I have grown to like such names, but they are all cut from the same cloth, wouldn't you say?

Athletico Ottawa adds some variety....

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^^ Yes, it adds some variety but not all variety is good. There is nothing Spanish about Ottawa no matter who owns the football team. That name would be a big turn-off for me if I lived there.

I'd hate for CPL to start being divided based along national lines.

Can't wait for Lyon Saskatoon and Juventus Kitchener.

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1 hour ago, Cblake said:

We just have to hope that this is more successful than the last time a La Liga team tried to operate a team in North America with Rayo OKC. That was a dumpster fire to say the least. 

Different situation with an existing pro team that Rayo OKC was competing with in the market.

On the field they weren't a dumpster fire however, with a quality roster of players (none from Rayo Vallecano) that were close to making the NASL Soccer Bowl final that year losing 2-1 to the New York Cosmos in the semi-final, and a 4th place finish out of 12 teams in the regular season.

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3 minutes ago, CDNFootballer said:

Different situation with an existing pro team that Rayo OKC was competing with in the market.

On the field they weren't a dumpster fire however, with a quality roster of players (none from Rayo Vallecano) that were close to making the NASL Soccer Bowl final that year losing 2-1 to the New York Cosmos in the semi-final, and a 4th place finish out of 12 teams in the regular season.

Off the field it was a mess, one of the American owners at one point in the middle of the night removed some of the pitch. Plus you got the Blackjacks tipping off in the CEBL so they will be competing for ticket buyers. The family looking for a cheap, fun time out will look to both. 

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21 minutes ago, Lofty said:

^^ Yes, it adds some variety but not all variety is good. There is nothing Spanish about Ottawa no matter who owns the football team. That name would be a big turn-off for me if I lived there.

I'd hate for CPL to start being divided based along national lines.

Can't wait for Lyon Saskatoon and Juventus Kitchener.

Hertha Kitchener or Union Kitchener would be the greatest name and anyone who doesn't think so needs a history lesson.

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33 minutes ago, Cblake said:

Off the field it was a mess, one of the American owners at one point in the middle of the night removed some of the pitch. Plus you got the Blackjacks tipping off in the CEBL so they will be competing for ticket buyers. The family looking for a cheap, fun time out will look to both. 

It’ll be really interesting to see how the crowds are for the Blackjacks and Atletico Ottawa.  The Blackjacks have a very powerful GM and coach behind them both from the Carleton University basketball factory.  Really looking forward to watching both teams this summer - don’t know how much of a crossover of fans there will be.

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1 hour ago, Obinna said:

Pacific vs Edmonton -> winner vs Vancouver

York 9 vs Masters FA -> winner vs Toronto

Halifax vs Blainville  -> winner vs Montreal

Valour vs Forge -> winner vs ?

Ottawa vs Cavalry -> winner vs ?

You must be thinking that Valour/Forge winner could play Ottawa vs Cavalry winner. Theoretically that could work, but isn't that unfairly punishing Cavalry? The Cavs advanced past Vancouver last year, so if any of those teams must drop a round, shouldn't it be the Whitecaps?

Such a move wouldn't be good for the sporting integrity of the tournament. It would make last year's results meaningless. People would accuse the organizers of MLS favoritism. The optics wouldn't be good. 

So while the match ups could work, I don't think they would work, if you know what I mean..

There already is MLS favouritism. The Whitecaps got a bye over Forge FC. The team who finished bottom of the Western Conference last season in MLS got a bye over the national champions. If that isn't a bias towards the MLS clubs, I don't know what is....🙄

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16 minutes ago, JamboAl said:

It’ll be really interesting to see how the crowds are for the Blackjacks and Atletico Ottawa.  The Blackjacks have a very powerful GM and coach behind them both from the Carleton University basketball factory.  Really looking forward to watching both teams this summer - don’t know how much of a crossover of fans there will be.

When I think of crossover to me its about a person/family looking for an affordable afternoon out. It will be about inexpensive tickets and enjoyable entertainment. It will be no different than with rugby league and a possible return of minor league baseball in 2021. It will be very interesting to see how it plays out if you have four teams playing pretty much at the same time of year fighting for their piece of the pie. 

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18 minutes ago, dnina10 said:

There already is MLS favouritism. The Whitecaps got a bye over Forge FC. The team who finished bottom of the Western Conference last season in MLS got a bye over the national champions. If that isn't a bias towards the MLS clubs, I don't know what is....🙄

It just acknowledging whats the higher level at this moment. Can you honestly tell me that FC Edmonton for instances is any better/different a team in the CPL than it was in the NASL, a D2 league. This country has sort of a D1A/D1B situation. The CPL is a nice little league with great growth potential but it still has a long way to go be anywhere the level of a league that MLS is and there is nothing wrong with that. 

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1 hour ago, JamboAl said:

It’ll be really interesting to see how the crowds are for the Blackjacks and Atletico Ottawa.  The Blackjacks have a very powerful GM and coach behind them both from the Carleton University basketball factory.  Really looking forward to watching both teams this summer - don’t know how much of a crossover of fans there will be.

I'd expect Athetico Ottawa to be in a similar range as the Fury were past few years, around 4500-5500.

CEBL attendance isn't in the same level as CPL from what little I've read, in the 1000-1500 range last year for some games and 2-3k for the semi-finals and final.

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3 hours ago, An Observer said:

On players, I wouldn't be surprised if they pick up a few on loan from the 3 MLS sides (like the Fury did) and likely sign a few ex Fury players still out of contract; that with the loans from the parent will probably provide the backbone of the side for Year 1.

A Theo Bair loan from VWFC would be perfect. The big club has 3 good to decent options up top and he’d do well to have the opportunity to star in his home town. 

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3 hours ago, Watchmen said:

Hertha Kitchener or Union Kitchener would be the greatest name and anyone who doesn't think so needs a history lesson.

KFC Dynamo would be more problematic but has some sponsorship possibilities.

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3 hours ago, dnina10 said:

There already is MLS favouritism. The Whitecaps got a bye over York9 FC and HFX Wanderers. Those CPL teams were knocked out in the exact same round of the 2019 Voyageurs Cup as the Whitecaps. If that isn't a bias towards the MLS clubs, I don't know what is....🙄

Fixed your post.

There is your MLS favouritism. Nothing to do with Forge FC.

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4 hours ago, Lofty said:

^^ Yes, it adds some variety but not all variety is good. There is nothing Spanish about Ottawa no matter who owns the football team. That name would be a big turn-off for me if I lived there.

I'd hate for CPL to start being divided based along national lines.

Can't wait for Lyon Saskatoon and Juventus Kitchener.

Hollandia Saskatoon?

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