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11 hours ago, CDNFootballer said:

I think the boat has sailed on OSEG being involved with a CPL club in Ottawa in an ownership role and imo that's good. Looking at the CPL statement re the Fury basically folding, the league is really looking at going forward without OSEG from the wording.

A CPL club in Ottawa really needs a fresh start, with a fresh ownership group and identity. Name wise would like to see something like Capital City FC.

 

Just wondering if the owner of this team when it was in CSL a few years back would have the money or interest in runnibd a CPL team. I remember that they were well run a had pretty good team including Clint Irwin in goal.

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15 minutes ago, to70 said:

Just wondering if the owner of this team when it was in CSL a few years back would have the money or interest in runnibd a CPL team. I remember that they were well run a had pretty good team including Clint Irwin in goal.

Good thought - apparently he (Neil Malhotra) is VP of Claridge Homes and wanted to put a NASL team in the baseball stadium: https://ottawacitizen.com/news/local-news/neil-malhotra-wants-to-put-pro-soccer-in-ottawa-stadium

Further to that, an article after his CSL team folded, suggests he is very much interested in what the CPL has to offer - a professional environment to develop Canadian talent: https://www.pressreader.com/canada/ottawa-citizen/20120331/282067683902186

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Converting this stadium to a proper soccer specific stadium won't be cheap...

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Location is amazing though

Highway + the LRT station 

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Maybe there's some redevelopment opportunities available in the area around the station, tons of parking lots... doesn't look like residential zoning either.

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40 minutes ago, Ansem said:

Converting this stadium to a proper soccer specific stadium won't be cheap...

To be fair, that plan was from 2009, when Lansdowne redevelopment was just a proposal being considered by the city and a year before the Fury were added to OSEG. I think it's more useful in pointing out that Malhotra could be a good fit for the CPL, if he was interested / had funding that could have led to a NASL franchise at the baseball stadium - whether he would still want to put a team there now is not as important as whether he would have the money and interest to lead a CPL team.

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5 hours ago, Viruk42 said:

To be fair, that plan was from 2009, when Lansdowne redevelopment was just a proposal being considered by the city and a year before the Fury were added to OSEG. I think it's more useful in pointing out that Malhotra could be a good fit for the CPL, if he was interested / had funding that could have led to a NASL franchise at the baseball stadium - whether he would still want to put a team there now is not as important as whether he would have the money and interest to lead a CPL team.

As you say, that plan is from 10 years ago. Who knows if that party is still interested.

I really shouldn't say this, but as someone who has worked in a professional capacity (non-soccer related) with both OSEG and Claridge, I would by FAR, FAR, FAR prefer a potential Ottawa CPL franchise to be in the hands of OSEG.

And as JamboAl says, it's pretty much Lansdowne – and some kind of relationship with OSEG – or nothing when it comes to a future professional soccer franchise in Ottawa

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On 11/11/2019 at 7:34 PM, JamboAl said:

Will have to agree to disagree.  Unless there is a new ownership group identified (still early, but no proof so far), I'd be happy with OSEG, warts and all, resurrecting the Fury, or whatever club, in Ottawa in the CPL.  There's no rationale for OSEG coming in and causing more drama.  As you can tell, I'd rather OSEG than nothing.  And is nothing in Ottawa is better for the CPL than OSEG?  Cause if the answer is yes, then I'd be questioning the CPL big time.

Al, you likely already know this, but for others following this thread, a pro basketball team with no affiliation to OSEG will be playing in an OSEG-run facility next year:

https://ottawasun.com/sports/basketball/blackjacks-get-ottawa-back-in-the-pro-basketball-game

From the article:

The CEBL’s 20-game, spring-summer schedule for 2020 will be announced Nov. 26 in Toronto, but sneak peeks include the BlackJacks starting on the road before playing a home opener May 14 against the Hamilton Honey Badgers. That will be the first contest under a multi-year rental agreement for TD Place arena

 

TD Place arena is where the OSEG-owned Ottawa 67's play.

If this can happen for a basketball team, it can certainly happen for a soccer club, whether or not OSEG is involved.

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A decent piece here on the group of fans pushing for a CPL franchise.

https://ici.radio-canada.ca/nouvelle/1405879/fury-partisans-soccer-equipe-ottawa-cpl

Unfortunately, the CPL failed to offer a comment, other than to specify that the Commissioner would be unavailable for weeks.

For a league complaining about lack of media attention, and that has been criticized for poor engagement in French, you'd think they'd do better here.

 

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13 minutes ago, Sébastien said:

A decent piece here on the group of fans pushing for a CPL franchise.

https://ici.radio-canada.ca/nouvelle/1405879/fury-partisans-soccer-equipe-ottawa-cpl

Unfortunately, the CPL failed to offer a comment, other than to specify that the Commissioner would be unavailable for weeks.

For a league complaining about lack of media attention, and that has been criticized for poor engagement in French, you'd think they'd do better here.

 

You can't be shocked that they aren't earger to comment the Fury folding and CONCACAF drama. For sure they'd be asked about the negotiations and to respond to OSEG allegations and comments.

You dont want to play that game, especially when you plan to bring a team to that city. Saying something regarding the Fury that could piss off hardcore fans is counter productive 

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12 hours ago, Ansem said:

You can't be shocked that they aren't earger to comment the Fury folding and CONCACAF drama. For sure they'd be asked about the negotiations and to respond to OSEG allegations and comments.

You dont want to play that game, especially when you plan to bring a team to that city. Saying something regarding the Fury that could piss off hardcore fans is counter productive 

We understand that but to say he is too busy now is not a good enough answer for me. I sure he could of come up with the right comments without pissing off anybody and at the same time get some exposure on French language media.Cheers.

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12 hours ago, Ansem said:

You can't be shocked that they aren't earger to comment the Fury folding and CONCACAF drama. For sure they'd be asked about the negotiations and to respond to OSEG allegations and comments.

You dont want to play that game, especially when you plan to bring a team to that city. Saying something regarding the Fury that could piss off hardcore fans is counter productive 

If we want a team in Ottawa the league is going to have to win those fans over eventually. That won’t happen if the Fury’s voice is the only one they hear. 

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7 hours ago, Aird25 said:

If we want a team in Ottawa the league is going to have to win those fans over eventually. That won’t happen if the Fury’s voice is the only one they hear. 

I understand but they have nothing to gain to answer Fury questions, worst, giving an interview refusing to corroborate or deny anything about the Fury. Reading the article, they printed that CPL refused to show their finances and attendance figures to OSEG.

  • L'organisation n'a eu aucun contact avec la Ligue dans les derniers mois et n'a eu accès à aucune donnée concernant les assistances et les finances du circuit.

This makes it sound like "a fact" that OSEG had no acces to the league's financial numbers and attendance figures. They should have added "according to OSEG or according to ...".  That's a misleading statement...intentional or unintentional. If I caught that, the league caught that too and it makes sense that they aren't in any hurry to talk about the Fury.

That's a hard to believe to be quite honest as we have a parrot here micro-analyzing the attendances and counting empty seats. 

As for seeing financial figures, context is needed here. After saying "No" to CPL, the league would have to be stupid to share anything with them. The league being so secretive on their finances gives them an edge on negotiations with talents among other things. Why risk "leaks" by a party that blindsided you when announcing that they'd stay in USL, a rival league? There was a breach of trust.

Clearly, emotions are still running high in regards to the Fury folding and now's not the time for the league to talk about it.

On the bright side

  •  Le président du Ottawa Sports and entertainment Group (OSEG), Mark Goudie, a déjà mentionné qu'une nouvelle équipe pourrait jouer à la Place TD.

OSEG said that a new club would be allowed to play at TD Place. So I guess that ends the debate "where would a CPL club play".

What make sense is to get the team to TD Place. If the team and league is successful and a sure thing that keeps growing, start looking at your own modular stadium for obvious reasons like not having to rent a facility way too big for your needs at high costs while not retaining most of the revenues except ticket sales. Without a deal like OSEG or what FC Edmonton was seeking, that's not really sustainable long term

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4 hours ago, dyslexic nam said:

Seems like OSEG may have other irons in the fire:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/sam-katz-baseball-ottawa-1.5384927

Not mentioned in that article was the fact that the City of Ottawa accepted the OSEG and Katz bid for the Champions after having a conditional agreement with a different group of local investors.

https://obj.ca/article/city-prefers-rival-bidder-over-upstart-ottawa-group-take-over-baseball-capital

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On 12/6/2019 at 7:02 AM, JamboAl said:

Agreed.  Unfortunately there hasn’t been rumours of a rumour that an ownership group is interested.

The Fury corpse isn't even cold yet.  I expect it will be a few years until CPL is in Ottawa.

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