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33 minutes ago, PopePouri said:

IMO the solution is pretty simple. You play him like Joevin Jones plays in Seattle, or Marcelo with Real Madrid. You lobside your attack to the left and play a more defensively astute, more stay at home RB. 

That also means Laryea out at RB. Brault-Guillard or Zator?

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7 hours ago, Ivan said:

If Abzi and Farsi keep progressing, they too will soon be in the LB conversation!

Farsi got a namecheck in today's MLS Extra Time video/podcast, which features a ton of Canadian national team discussion (starting about 20 minutes in):

David Gass appears to be a CPL fan. :)

 

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20 minutes ago, Gian-Luca said:

Farsi got a namecheck in today's MLS Extra Time video/podcast, which features a ton of Canadian national team discussion (starting about 20 minutes in):

David Gass appears to be a CPL fan. :)

 

He co-hosts A Football Pod with Devang Desai and Sean Keay. Lots of Canadian content.

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Canadians in MLS:

Player Team Position GP GS MP G A
Russell Teibert Vancouver Whitecaps CM 6 6 531 0 0
Samuel Piette Montreal Impact CDM 5 5 444 0 0
Richie Laryea Toronto FC RB/RWB 6 3 371 2 0
Mark Anthony Kaye Los Angeles FC CM/LB 5 5 367 1 1
Zach Brault-Guillard Montreal Impact RB 5 3 355 0 0
Dejan Jakovic Los Angeles FC CB 4 4 310 0 0
Tesho Akindele Orlando City ST/W 5 3 303 1 0
Jonathan Osorio Toronto FC CM 3 3 270 0 2
Ayo Akinola Toronto FC ST 3 3 266 5 0
Lucas Cavallini Vancouver Whitecaps ST 3 3 261 0 0
Derek Cornelious Vancouver Whitecaps CB 3 2 197 0 0
Joel Waterman Montreal Impact CB 2 2 180 0 1
Ryan Raposo Vancouver Whitecaps CM/W 5 1 155 0 1
Theo Bair Vancouver Whitecaps ST 4 1 136 0 0
Tajon Buchanan New England Revolution ST 5 1 113 0 0
Tosaint Ricketts Vancouver Whitecaps ST 3 1 108 1 0
Cristian Gutierrez Vancouver Whitecaps RB 3 1 105 0 0
Jacob Shaffelburg Toronto FC LW 3 1 95 0 0
Alistair Johnston Nashville SC RB 2 1 89 0 0
Anthony Jackson-Hamel Montreal Impact ST 3 1 76 0 0
Shamit Shome Montreal Impact CM 4 1 56 0 0
Liam Fraser Toronto FC CDM 3 0 44 0 0
Raheem Edwards Minnesota United LWB/LB 4 0 28 0 1
Jay Chapman Inter Miami CF CM 3 0 26 0 0
Noble Okello Toronto FC CDM 1 0 22 0 0
Ballou Jean-Yves Tabla Montreal Impact ST/W 1 0 15 0 0
Patrick Metcalfe Vancouver Whitecaps CM 2 0 10 0 0
Jordan Hamilton Columbus Crew ST 0 0 0 0 0
Callum Montgomery FC Dallas (Loan) CB 0 0 0 0 0
David Norman Jr. Inter Miami CF CM 0 0 0 0 0
Mathieu Choiniere Montreal Impact CM 0 0 0 0 0
Clement Bayiha Montreal Impact RB/RWB 0 0 0 0 0
Karifa Yao Montreal Impact CB 0 0 0 0 0
Kamal Miller Orlando City CB 0 0 0 0 0
Ashtone Morgan Real Salt Lake LB 0 0 0 0 0
Julian Dunn-Johnson Toronto FC CB 0 0 0 0 0
Rocco Romeo Toronto FC CB 0 0 0 0 0
Jahkeele Marshall-Rutty Toronto FC CAM 0 0 0 0 0
Jayden Nelson Toronto FC ST/W 0 0 0 0 0
Georges Mukumbilwa Vancouver Whitecaps CM 0 0 0 0 0
Simon Colyn Vancouver Whitecaps CAM 0 0 0 0 0
Gianfranco Facchineri Vancouver Whitecaps CB 0 0 0 0 0
Michael Baldisimo Vancouver Whitecaps CDM 0 0 0 0 0
Damiano Pelice Vancouver Whitecaps CM 0 0 0 0 0
               
Player Team Position GP GS MP S GA
Maxime Crepeau Vancouver Whitecaps GK 4 4 328 12 10
Thomas Hasel Vancouver Whitecaps GK 3 2 212 10 3
Greg Ranjitsingh Minnesota United FC GK 0 0 0 0 0
Dayne St Clair Minnesota United FC (Loan) GK 0 0 0 0 0
James Pantemis Montreal Impact (Loan) GK 0 0 0 0 0
Jonathan Sirois Montreal Impact GK 0 0 0 0 0

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Canadians in USL Championship:

Player Team Position GP GS MP G A
Tyler Pasher Indy Eleven Forward 9 8 728 8 1
Karl Ouimette Indy Eleven Defender 8 8 720 0 2
Paris Gee Saint Louis FC Defender 8 7 639 0 0
Ryan James Pittsburgh Riverhounds SC Defender 7 7 630 1 0
Skylar Thomas Pittsburgh Riverhounds SC Defender 7 7 613 1 0
Zachary Ellis-Hayden Oklahoma City Energy Defender 7 7 585 0 1
Jeremy Gagnon-Lapare Saint Louis FC Defender 7 6 523 0 1
Brian Wright Birmingham Legion FC Forward 6 8 512 2 1
Aidan Daniels Colorado Springs Switchbacks Midfielder 6 6 465 1 0
Callum Montgomery San Antonio FC (On Loan from FC Dallas) Defender 5 5 448 2 0
Kembo Kibato Rio Grande Valley FC Toros Midfielder 7 5 408 1 0
Carl Haworth Indy Eleven Defender 4 4 315 1 1
Drew Beckie El Paso Locomotive FC Defender 4 2 255 0 0
Emile Legault Rio Grande Valley FC Toros Defender 3 2 217 0 0
Malik Johnson Tampa Bay Rowdies Midfielder 5 1 183 2 1
Jordan Murrell Las Vegas Lights FC Defender 2 2 180 0 0
Alex Comsia North Carolina FC Defender 3 2 175 0 0
Dayonn Harris Real Monarchs Forward 3 2 170 0 0
Massimo Ferrin Loudon FC United Forward 4 3 162 0 0
Jordan Schweitzer Phoenix Rising Midfielder 6 1 131 0 0
Mamadi Camara Colorado Springs Switchbacks Forward 6 1 129 0 0
Ashtone Morgan Real Monarchs (On Loan from Real Salt Lake) Defender 1 1 90 0 0
Mathieu Laurent Birmingham Legion FC Defender 0 0 0 0 0
               
Player Team Position GP GS MP S GA
Dayne St. Clair San Antonio FC (On Loan from Minnesota United) Goalie 5 5 450 12 3
Sean Melvin Colorado Springs Switchbacks Goalie 5 5 450 12 11
Andre MacRae Tulsa FC Goalie 0 0 0 0 0

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43 minutes ago, Corazon said:

Canadians in MLS:

Player Team Position GP GS MP G A
Russell Teibert Vancouver Whitecaps CM 6 6 531 0 0
Samuel Piette Montreal Impact CDM 5 5 444 0 0
Richie Laryea Toronto FC RB/RWB 6 3 371 2 0
Mark Anthony Kaye Los Angeles FC CM/LB 5 5 367 1 1
Zach Brault-Guillard Montreal Impact RB 5 3 355 0 0
Dejan Jakovic Los Angeles FC CB 4 4 310 0 0
Tesho Akindele Orlando City ST/W 5 3 303 1 0
Jonathan Osorio Toronto FC CM 3 3 270 0 2
Ayo Akinola Toronto FC ST 3 3 266 5 0
Lucas Cavallini Vancouver Whitecaps ST 3 3 261 0 0
Derek Cornelious Vancouver Whitecaps CB 3 2 197 0 0
Joel Waterman Montreal Impact CB 2 2 180 0 1
Ryan Raposo Vancouver Whitecaps CM/W 5 1 155 0 1
Theo Bair Vancouver Whitecaps ST 4 1 136 0 0
Tajon Buchanan New England Revolution ST 5 1 113 0 0
Tosaint Ricketts Vancouver Whitecaps ST 3 1 108 1 0
Cristian Gutierrez Vancouver Whitecaps RB 3 1 105 0 0
Jacob Shaffelburg Toronto FC LW 3 1 95 0 0
Alistair Johnston Nashville SC RB 2 1 89 0 0
Anthony Jackson-Hamel Montreal Impact ST 3 1 76 0 0
Shamit Shome Montreal Impact CM 4 1 56 0 0
Liam Fraser Toronto FC CDM 3 0 44 0 0
Raheem Edwards Minnesota United LWB/LB 4 0 28 0 1
Jay Chapman Inter Miami CF CM 3 0 26 0 0
Noble Okello Toronto FC CDM 1 0 22 0 0
Ballou Jean-Yves Tabla Montreal Impact ST/W 1 0 15 0 0
Patrick Metcalfe Vancouver Whitecaps CM 2 0 10 0 0
Jordan Hamilton Columbus Crew ST 0 0 0 0 0
Callum Montgomery FC Dallas (Loan) CB 0 0 0 0 0
David Norman Jr. Inter Miami CF CM 0 0 0 0 0
Mathieu Choiniere Montreal Impact CM 0 0 0 0 0
Clement Bayiha Montreal Impact RB/RWB 0 0 0 0 0
Karifa Yao Montreal Impact CB 0 0 0 0 0
Kamal Miller Orlando City CB 0 0 0 0 0
Ashtone Morgan Real Salt Lake LB 0 0 0 0 0
Julian Dunn-Johnson Toronto FC CB 0 0 0 0 0
Rocco Romeo Toronto FC CB 0 0 0 0 0
Jahkeele Marshall-Rutty Toronto FC CAM 0 0 0 0 0
Jayden Nelson Toronto FC ST/W 0 0 0 0 0
Georges Mukumbilwa Vancouver Whitecaps CM 0 0 0 0 0
Simon Colyn Vancouver Whitecaps CAM 0 0 0 0 0
Gianfranco Facchineri Vancouver Whitecaps CB 0 0 0 0 0
Michael Baldisimo Vancouver Whitecaps CDM 0 0 0 0 0
Damiano Pelice Vancouver Whitecaps CM 0 0 0 0 0
               
Player Team Position GP GS MP S GA
Maxime Crepeau Vancouver Whitecaps GK 4 4 328 12 10
Thomas Hasel Vancouver Whitecaps GK 3 2 212 10 3
Greg Ranjitsingh Minnesota United FC GK 0 0 0 0 0
Dayne St Clair Minnesota United FC (Loan) GK 0 0 0 0 0
James Pantemis Montreal Impact (Loan) GK 0 0 0 0 0
Jonathan Sirois Montreal Impact GK 0 0 0 0 0

Perhaps consider changing him to LB?

Thanks for doing these by the way.

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The debate if Davies is a LW or LB should be over ! He’s right now he’s  top 3 LB in the world. If Herdman is too dumb to make it work has him as LB. it’s time for the Hobbit to be shown the door. Also him at LB opens up more attacking options. So this talk of some kids in CPL coming in and jumping on this team. You guys are nuts! I love the CPL I have watched every game. Can’t wait to see Ottawa live. But really truly it’s time to bring out Canada’s best team no more ******** ! No more token player call ups like Pantemis or Carducci or Borges because they were playing well in CPL and Canada Soccer wants a feel good story and promote the league. The best players should be called and top duals should be convinced. It’s time to take our place as top 3 in  CONCACAF and qualify of the World Cup ! 

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59 minutes ago, SpecialK said:

The debate if Davies is a LW or LB should be over ! He’s right now he’s  top 3 LB in the world. If Herdman is too dumb to make it work has him as LB. it’s time for the Hobbit to be shown the door. Also him at LB opens up more attacking options. So this talk of some kids in CPL coming in and jumping on this team. You guys are nuts! I love the CPL I have watched every game. Can’t wait to see Ottawa live. But really truly it’s time to bring out Canada’s best team no more ******** ! No more token player call ups like Pantemis or Carducci or Borges because they were playing well in CPL and Canada Soccer wants a feel good story and promote the league. The best players should be called and top duals should be convinced. It’s time to take our place as top 3 in  CONCACAF and qualify of the World Cup ! 

The question isn’t whether not not he can make Davies at LB.  That is a non issue.  The issue is whether not we are stronger as a team with him at LB or at LW, and that debate isn’t settled or nearly as clear as your post indicates.  

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The CMNT is not Bayern... Davies does not have the same support around him, nor the well-trained attacking and defensive sequences when playing for Canada.
Look at Alaba... he never plays LB for Austria, and I’d bet he won’t play CB either. Unleash the beast in a forward position!

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Thought this was notable on the shitshow that is the Whitecaps and the effect on the NT. Teibert seemed to be a davourite for Herdman in the locker room but realistically there's better younger options on the rise. Wonder how his spot looks going into 2022.

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I don't buy this. Teibert isn't good enough thats for sure but what media? There are like 3 guys in Van consistently talking Whitecaps. I haven't seen anyone talking bad about Teibert and I can't see Teibert caring. I do think the Caps should move on from Teibert and he should look for a new experience 

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Seems strange. I thought he was having a pretty good season to date. Seems to be an important player for Marc Dos Santos. He is playing every game and doing his job. Of all the players on the Whitecaps who could be upgraded, Teibert is definitely not the one that comes to my mind. You always know what you will get from him. He is the least of their worries.

If I had to gut this team, I would start with Ali Adnan. That is not a knock on his ability, he is a very good player, but not for a DP spot. There is a reason why he is the only full back on a DP deal. Give the job to Gutierrez and promote an academy player to back him up if needed. Having Gutierrez on the bench is such a waste, perfectly adequate player not being used because Ali Adnan, a luxury player, is occupying the LB spot, and a DP spot. So that is priority number one. Get rid of Adnan.

Next, they need at least 2 strong attacking players. I mean actual strong players.

I like Dajome and Owusu, they have both improved the team, but these guys would be bench players for Toronto and maybe even Montreal as well. Go spend whatever you need to get someone like Juan Quintero from River Plate. Attacking midfielder who is the right age. You see teams like Minnesota plucking these sort of guys from South America, what is Vancouver`s excuse. I do not get it at all....

Wow, I did not know this was where I would end up.

Anyways, end rant.   

Edited by Obinna

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Teibert is a very hard working pro with clear strengths but also areas of his game which have plateau-ed.  In my all-available ideal 23 man roster, he's on the Chris Pozniak short notice taxi squad, with the a few other veteran guys and young prospects on the rise but not quite there yet.  

 

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Vancouver have always been a below average side. They operate as a bottom tier legume where they never made signings that made you go “wow, they seem serious this year”. It’s always been players that are no longer wanted from another MLS team, that they think will do good again in a new environment. LeToux, Montero, Perez, Shea, Rosales, Felipe, Kah...and that’s just off the top of my head. As far as I remember, Cavallini even stated he only wanted to play for Toronto.....but then money talked, and they are now overpaying. 

I keep saying this but the organization is better off selling their expansion rights to another American city, and joining the CPL. Their club infrastructure is good, the first team management is has been consistently horrible. 

Oh yea, and Teibert isn’t to blame - he’s the Whitecaps Ashtone Morgan.

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Saying “Teibert” isn’t to blame is a meaningless statement. You can’t blame one player - it’s a collective failure. Nonetheless Teibert isn’t good enough to start on an MLS roster IMO. He’s proven that for years. 

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3 hours ago, Floortom said:

Nonetheless Teibert isn’t good enough to start on an MLS roster IMO. He’s proven that for years. 

Careful there:  you might get an angry email from the Caps p.r. telling you to knock it off.

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16 hours ago, SpursFlu said:

I don't buy this. Teibert isn't good enough thats for sure but what media? There are like 3 guys in Van consistently talking Whitecaps. I haven't seen anyone talking bad about Teibert and I can't see Teibert caring.

I agree. This could be as simple as an inside joke with the PR guy because he had protected another player previously and people had had a laugh about how they had done it. "Go get em PR guy!"

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30 minutes ago, Ruffian said:

I agree. This could be as simple as an inside joke with the PR guy because he had protected another player previously and people had had a laugh about how they had done it. "Go get em PR guy!"

The reporting on the caps as of late has indicated that Teibert is the organization's guy and basically the only one that still is on MDS' side. Hence why he's starting.

To note former cap Omar Salgado liked this tweet so i'm guessing Teibert isn't the most liked by a number of Caps and ex-caps.

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13 hours ago, Floortom said:

Saying “Teibert” isn’t to blame is a meaningless statement. You can’t blame one player - it’s a collective failure. Nonetheless Teibert isn’t good enough to start on an MLS roster IMO. He’s proven that for years. 

By blame I meant being someone to talk about/the fall guy. 
Reality is you don’t need a team full of starters. I’ve been one of Rustys biggest critics, but he is who he is - a sporadic sub (although I think he’s had a good season). Him being at the Whitecaps for as long as the team has been a failure is more a reflection of the organization on a whole. 

Like I said, he’s the Ashtone Morgan before TFC was good, and when they became good how often did you see him.

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58 minutes ago, Obinna said:

This is getting a little too complimentary of Morgan for my liking....

Morgan v Teibert....I won't say who but one of them has multiple V Cups and MLS Supporters Shield and MLS Cup.😉

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