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2 hours ago, Ivan said:

...and on the soccer side, I see Kilmarnock has a Europa League qualifier today.  Is Liam still there?

Nope. Pretty sure he talked about trying to earn a spot with Liverpool this pre season. That probably doesn’t happen, but let’s hope for another good loan for him. Wouldn’t be surprised to see him back in Scotland as a starter somewhere.

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On 7/11/2019 at 11:53 AM, Mikmacdo said:

Bayern will make davies a lb. 

I hope not they bought him for his offensive and creative game style. He should be an attacker at LM/LW/RW/RM. He would thrive at those positions. 

I am hoping CMNT have set games to play outside of the ConCaCaf:NL

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On 7/11/2019 at 3:09 PM, canta15 said:

I was on Liam Millar's wiki and apparently his dad was an electrician on Game of Thrones. @spitfire is this true?

Yes and a few other shows including Peaky Blinders. I’m currently on Outlander(or 50 shades of tartan as it’s known... )

A fun video to share Liam is in with the first team for pre season...

he’s in the front between Milner and Henderson...

 

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Canadians in MLS (Updated to include Jakovic stats)

Player Team Position GP GS MP G A
Samuel Piette Montreal Impact CDM 18 18 1590 0 0
Mark Anthony Kaye Los Angeles FC CM/LB 18 17 1542 4 5
Doneil Henry Vancouver Whitecaps CB 15 15 1349 2 1
Shamit Shome Montreal Impact CM 17 13 1181 1 1
Tesho Akindele Orlando City ST/W 15 14 1094 6 1
Russell Teibert Vancouver Whitecaps CM/CDM 14 13 1094 0 1
Jonathan Osorio Toronto FC CM/CAM 13 12 1061 3 4
Will Johnson Orlando City CM 13 13 1037 1 1
Richie Laryea Toronto FC RB/RWB/CM 11 10 815 1 1
Liam Fraser Toronto FC CDM 8 8 720 0 1
Jordan Hamilton Columbus Crew ST 14 7 623 4 0
Anthony Jackson-Hamel Montreal Impact ST 15 6 604 3 0
Zach Brault-Guillard Montreal Impact RB 9 6 598 0 0
Kamal Miller Orlando City CB 7 6 585 0 0
Mathieu Choiniere Montreal Impact CM 13 5 551 0 0
Derek Cornelious Vancouver Whitecaps CB 7 6 526 1 0
Jay Chapman Toronto FC CM/CAM 16 4 477 2 2
Tajon Buchanan New England Revolution ST 10 4 391 0 2
Jacob Shaffelburg Toronto FC LW 5 4 381 0 1
Clement Bayiha Montreal Impact RB/RWB 7 3 344 0 1
Ayo Akinola Toronto FC ST 8 2 253 1 1
Raheem Edwards Chicago Fire LWB/LB 4 2 244 1 0
Ashtone Morgan Toronto FC LB 4 3 201 0 0
Brett Levis Vancouver Whitecaps LB 5 2 193 0 0
Dejan Jakovic Los Angeles FC CB 2 2 180 0 0
Theo Bair Vancouver Whitecaps ST 4 1 134 0 0
Daniel Kinumbe Montreal Impact LB 1 1 67 0 0
Brian Wright New England Revolution ST 2 0 10 0 0
Ryan Telfer Toronto FC ST/W 1 0 3 0 1
Callum Montgomery FC Dallas CB 0 0 0 0 0
Thomas Meuilleur-Giguere Montreal Impact Loan 0 0 0 0 0
Karifa Yao Montreal Impact CB 0 0 0 0 0
Luca Ricci Montreal Impact CM 0 0 0 0 0
Julian Dunn-Johnson Toronto FC CB 0 0 0 0 0
Noble Okello Toronto FC CDM 0 0 0 0 0
Aidan Daniels Toronto FC Loan 0 0 0 0 0
Simon Colyn Vancouver Whitecaps CAM 0 0 0 0 0
Michael Baldisimo Vancouver Whitecaps CDM 0 0 0 0 0
David Norman Jr. Vancouver Whitecaps CM 0 0 0 0 0
               
Player Team Position GP GS MP S GA
Maxime Crepeau Vancouver Whietcaps GK 15 15 1350 56 23
Greg Ranjitsingh Orlando City GK 1 1 90 1 2
Dayne St Clair Minnesota United FC GK          
James Pantemis Montreal Impact GK          
Jason Beaulieu Montreal Impact GK          
Thomas Hasel Vancouver Whietcaps GK          
Sean Melvin Vancouver Whietcaps GK          
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9 hours ago, Corazon said:

Canadians in MLS

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I hope this year has been worse than past years (for whatever reasons) because as a bit of stand alone data its kind of depressing.  I'm going to guess there are encouraging details in there.  Some of the names on that table are quite young, their whole future lays ahead of them.  

Nice find all the same.

 

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I thought those stats looked better than last year as well.  I guess it just goes to show how bad it really is.  

Last year we had 11 guys over 1000 min, 4 guys over 2000min.  Overall we had 30 CDN play in MLS last year, and we already have 30 this year.  So from the looks of it we might get a few more in all metrics.  

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Shome is clearly having a break out year.

Hamilton too has some nice stats given his minutes. It's unfortunate he'll miss the U-23s by 1 year.

Shome, Miller, Fraser, Chioniere, Buchanan, Schaffleburg, Bayiha are all players I am earmarking for Olympic qualifiers. 

Combine these with the best of the CPL (Borges, Verhoeven, Langwa, Campbell etc.) and we'll have a pretty solid team!

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The Gold Cup could affect the number of starts slightly.  We did have 12 players away and missed anywhere from 4 to 6 games.  Although, many young Canadians players benefited from regulars away at the tournament as well.

If anyone provided a full list of players in USL 1, USL2 & CPL, I would have no problem putting together a list for those leagues as well.

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16 minutes ago, Corazon said:

The Gold Cup could affect the number of starts slightly.  We did have 12 players away and missed anywhere from 4 to 6 games.  Although, many young Canadians players benefited from regulars away at the tournament as well.

If anyone provided a full list of players in USL 1, USL2 & CPL, I would have no problem putting together a list for those leagues as well.

At first glance this looks up to date (at least reasonably). The American teams are on the "Canucks Abroad" tab and the Canadian teams are on the "Canucks at Home" tab.

http://www.rednationonline.ca/Articles2015/CANMNTPlayerPool.aspx

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On ‎7‎/‎15‎/‎2019 at 12:58 PM, Bison44 said:

I thought those stats looked better than last year as well.  I guess it just goes to show how bad it really is.  

Last year we had 11 guys over 1000 min, 4 guys over 2000min.  Overall we had 30 CDN play in MLS last year, and we already have 30 this year.  So from the looks of it we might get a few more in all metrics.  

 

On ‎7‎/‎15‎/‎2019 at 9:56 AM, nolando said:

Man....I love stats. Thanks. I had no idea Shome was playing this regularly. As an aside, I think Jakovic played against the Caps the other night.

I have been keeping similar MLS stats since 2016. I don't know how to include a fancy chart so below lists the total number of Canadian players to play over 2000 minutes, over 1000 minutes, over 100 minutes, and made at least one game day 18. Also included the total number of minutes played and the average age of everyone to make a game day 18. The 2019 stats are accurate as of today. 

2016: Played over 2000 minutes: 2, over 1000 minutes: 8, over 100 minutes: 22, made game day 18: 30, Total minutes: 19765, Average age: 23.29

2017: Played over 2000 minutes: 1, over 1000 minutes: 7, over 100 minutes: 19, made game day 18: 29, Total minutes: 17475, Average age: 23.50

2018: Played over 2000 minutes: 4, over 1000 minutes: 11, over 100 minutes: 26, made game day 18: 34, Total minutes: 27750, Average age: 23.44

2019: Played over 2000 minutes: 0, over 1000 minutes: 9, over 100 minutes: 26, made game day 18: 38, Total minutes: 18938, Average age: 22.97

It appears that 2016 and 2017 the stats were similar and there was a fairly substantial increase in 2018 which should hold steady in 2019. Also interesting that of the 30 Canadians to make a game day squad in 2016 only 11 are still in MLS. 

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2 hours ago, Stryker911 said:

 

I have been keeping similar MLS stats since 2016. I don't know how to include a fancy chart so below lists the total number of Canadian players to play over 2000 minutes, over 1000 minutes, over 100 minutes, and made at least one game day 18. Also included the total number of minutes played and the average age of everyone to make a game day 18. The 2019 stats are accurate as of today. 

2016: Played over 2000 minutes: 2, over 1000 minutes: 8, over 100 minutes: 22, made game day 18: 30, Total minutes: 19765, Average age: 23.29

2017: Played over 2000 minutes: 1, over 1000 minutes: 7, over 100 minutes: 19, made game day 18: 29, Total minutes: 17475, Average age: 23.50

2018: Played over 2000 minutes: 4, over 1000 minutes: 11, over 100 minutes: 26, made game day 18: 34, Total minutes: 27750, Average age: 23.44

2019: Played over 2000 minutes: 0, over 1000 minutes: 9, over 100 minutes: 26, made game day 18: 38, Total minutes: 18938, Average age: 22.97

It appears that 2016 and 2017 the stats were similar and there was a fairly substantial increase in 2018 which should hold steady in 2019. Also interesting that of the 30 Canadians to make a game day squad in 2016 only 11 are still in MLS. 

I'll fill in 1996 to 2014 for most of those stats, which I also used to keep track of, but I've stopped. Edited my original post to have players that are in the 2000+ category counted in each column, and players in the 1000 category to be counted in the 1000 and 100 columns, to match @Stryker911's data. Also added Stryker's data for these columns to my table. Missing numbers for 2015.

Year 2000+ 1000 100 Total minutes
1996 3 4 5 9467
1997 1 1 1 2463
1998 1 2 3 4982
1999 1 3 4 5522
2000 1 2 4 4417
2001 0 1 2 2077
2002 0 1 1 1637
2003 1 1 2 3194
2004 1 2 3 4322
2005 2 2 3 5416
2006 2 3 4 7815
2007 2 7 17 17271
2008 3 7 11 14881
2009 6 9 14 21062
2010 7 9 14 20370
2011 4 7 17 20194
2012 7 10 12 21858
2013 2 9 15 19388
2014 2 7 15 17027
2015        
2016 2 8 22 19765
2017 1 7 19 17475
2018 4 11 26 27750
2019 0 9 26 18938
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I think the two interesting things are...

1. What Stryker said. TFC caused a surge, but Vancouver and Montreal, with the newly lowered domestic player quota that was insisted on, didn't make any difference.

2. 2018 and 2019 saw a surge, which happens to coincide with the announcement of the CPL. I really think the Canadian MLS teams did react to the CPL or at the least the talk from fans about the CPL and how important it is to have Canadians playing.

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9 minutes ago, Lofty said:

Yes, hard to ignore that significant bump just as CPL was announced. Didn't MLS also recently change their "domestic player" rules to be more Canadian friendly? (Presumably in response to CPL.) If so, that would also have helped.

True. I can't remember but I think that came into effect in 2017 or 2018. I'm pretty sure Don Garber announced the rule change during one of the MLS Cup finals in Toronto.

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7 minutes ago, SpecialK said:

CB  Ferreira seems like he’s without a club. Canadian MLS teams should be knocking. Yes he’s injury prone but look at Henry, he’s healthy and playing well. He would look good with the Whitecaps or the impact. Thoughts anyone?

There's nooooooooo way a CPL team could afford him.

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