dyslexic nam Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 52 minutes ago, Unnamed Trialist said: I'm a bit surprised this thread can go on and on about Canucks in MLS while ignoring we are radically discriminated by league rules. There is no reciprocity, and the CSA doesn't have the gumption to lobby for it. USNT players are more benefitted by Canadian MLS teams than the reverse. How many Canada core players have mostly developed on US MLS teams? MLS is at best a mediocre deal for the CMNT. Our best plan involves direct paths to Europe or dual nationals, with rather few exceptions. CPL isn't there yet either. Labour or contractual reciprocity would be a major step. I think most people have just given up on it. It is widely recognized and a point of contention but unless and until Garber decides to do something about it, it won’t change. MLS is first and foremost a league with ties to the USSF. Canadian player development is not part of its mandate. MtlMario, Ruffian, Kent and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 1 hour ago, Unnamed Trialist said: I'm a bit surprised this thread can go on and on about Canucks in MLS while ignoring we are radically discriminated by league rules. There is no reciprocity, and the CSA doesn't have the gumption to lobby for it. USNT players are more benefitted by Canadian MLS teams than the reverse. How many Canada core players have mostly developed on US MLS teams? MLS is at best a mediocre deal for the CMNT. Our best plan involves direct paths to Europe or dual nationals, with rather few exceptions. CPL isn't there yet either. Labour or contractual reciprocity would be a major step. CSA should grow some balls and no longer allow Americans to count as domestics on the 3 Canadian MLS teams Sal333, Unnamed Trialist, Corazon and 5 others 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOcanadafan Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 I understand the rules around Canadian players counting as domestic players are not the best, but they are better since 2016 than before. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MLS_International_Roster_Slots A logical next step would be to get MLS to add the Canadian Premier League to the MLS and USL as leagues that players can sign their first pro contract. I guess they really penalize players who don’t sign their first pro contract with an MLS team. Now I can see how the Canadian teams can bully their academy players into signing a pro contract and prevent them from going abroad, as it makes it easier for them to get picked up if they ever came back to the MLS. I’m wondering, would most US players qualify as an “International Homegrown domestics” if MLS did change the rules for Canadian teams to mirror the rules for the US ones? We need the execs/management of each franchise to make it a priority to develop the Canadian talent they recruit to the academy. I blame TFC, not the MLS for their awful youth development track record. A good start would be hiring a Canadian GM. Jedi Ram and narduch 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unnamed Trialist Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 1 hour ago, narduch said: CSA should grow some balls and no longer allow Americans to count as domestics on the 3 Canadian MLS teams It should be am ongoing point of negotiation in everything. Not something you give up on. For the WC bid. For Nations League approval. For Concacaf club competitions. Keep it in the table and pick away on it. Concacaf and FIFA allow an exception with MLS, so you negotiate on the basis of this exceptionality. johnyb, MtlMario and narduch 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoccMan Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 (edited) Yes I agree but in the meantime , remember that in addition to the three MLS academies there are also other approved Canadian academies that if a Canadian player was developed in , those players will also count as domestics on American MLS teams . Moreover, if a Canadian player’s first pro contract is with an MLS team no matter if it’s a Canadian MLS team or an American one then that player is considered a domestic player in all MLS teams. Therefore, the way things stand it’s pretty hard for a Canadian not to be considered a domestic player on American MLS teams. Ideally just make Canadian players domestic regardless of any criteria , but even as things stand now the vast majority of Canadian players are domestic and the vast majority that will join the league in the future will be . Edited August 14, 2021 by SoccMan TOcanadafan, longlugan, Jedi Ram and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackjack15 Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 Northern Fútbol Podcast: Episode 25 – Which Canadians are destined for a "big" transfer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 (edited) Kaye makes MLS team of the week. Crepeau and Buchanan on the bench Edited August 23, 2021 by narduch johnyb, NVsoccer, Obinna and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe MacCarthy Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 (edited) You know what I`m looking forward to, seeing all those famous historical club names when we post our NT roster. I don`t know if any of those teams like Red Star, Brugge or Reading are any better than MLS clubs but I'm a snob and I think it looks good on us. Damn, still too many MLS names Here is my totally unscientific and non factual list, who am I missing? (Cavallini and Akinola out) Who will be the third keeper? Wow, imagine us saying that! Pantemis, St Clair or Leutwiler. When will The Stache get a bigger club name? Sam Adekugbe TUR / Hatayspor Tesho Akindele USA / Orlando City SC Scott Arfield SCO / Glasgow Rangers FC Milan Borjan SBA / Red Star Belgrade Zachary Brault-Guillard CAN / CF Montréal Tajon Buchanan BEL / Club Brugge Theo Corbeanu ENG / Sheffield Wednesday Derek Cornelius GRE / Panetolikos Maxime Crépeau CAN / Vancouver Whitecaps FC Jonathan David FRA / Lille OSC Alphonso Davies GER / FC Bayern München Stephen Eustáquio POR / FC Paços de Ferreira Liam Fraser USA / Columbus Crew SC Doneil Henry KOR / Suwon Samsung Bluewings Junior Hoilett ENG / Reading FC Atiba Hutchinson TUR / Beşiktaş JK Alistair Johnston USA / Nashville SC Mark-Anthony Kaye USA / Colorado Rapids Scott Kennedy GER / SSV Jahn Regensburg Cyle Larin TUR / Beşiktaş JK Richie Laryea CAN / Toronto FC Jayson Leutwiler ENG / Oldham Athletic Liam Millar SWI / FC Basel Kamal Miller CAN / CF Montréal Jonathan Osorio CAN / Toronto FC James Pantemis CAN / CF Montréal Samuel Piette CAN / CF Montréal Dayne St. Clair USA / Minnesota United FC Steven Vitória POR / Moreirense FC David Wotherspoon SCO / St. Johnstone FC Edited August 24, 2021 by Joe MacCarthy johnyb, Stryker911, GasPed and 5 others 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnyb Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 Great list! Small correction, Kaye no longer with LA. Millar Showing England instead of Swiss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe MacCarthy Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 Wasn't meant to be totally accurate, I just wanted to see the names. Thanks, I will correct. johnyb 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnyb Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 Just now, Joe MacCarthy said: Wasn't meant to be totally accurate, I just wanted to see the names. Thanks, I will correct. As I said, great list and I share your enthusiasm. Wasn't trying to be a dick, I just have a small case of OCD. dyslexic nam 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe MacCarthy Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 Just now, johnyb said: As I said, great list and I share your enthusiasm. Wasn't trying to be a dick, I just have a small case of OCD. Me too and I should have done better, frankly, I'm a little disappointed, I thought there might have been more big name clubs. C'mon Stache! johnyb 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheeta Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 41 minutes ago, Joe MacCarthy said: You know what I`m looking forward to, seeing all those famous historical club names when we post our NT roster ... It's going to be a very sexy read. And getting sexier by the week. johnyb 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metro Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 7 minutes ago, Cheeta said: It's going to be a very sexy read. And getting sexier by the week. Yes, and don't forget the sequel, "National Team 2: The Electric Boogaloo" Marcelo Flores ENG / Arsenal Daniel Jebbison ENG / Everton Ralph Priso ITA / Juventus Jakeele Marshall-Rutty SPA / Barcelona (OK, this one is still in the production stages...) Nate3322, sebdeserio, Cheeta and 4 others 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 2 hours ago, Metro said: Yes, and don't forget the sequel, "National Team 2: The Electric Boogaloo" Marcelo Flores ENG / Arsenal Daniel Jebbison ENG / Everton Ralph Priso ITA / Juventus Jakeele Marshall-Rutty SPA / Barcelona (OK, this one is still in the production stages...) I take it his role is going to be played by Weston McKennie? Metro 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strait Red Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 Portugal has passed France in the UEFA league rankings. Thanks for the info @GlassCity El Hombre, GlassCity, Jedi Ram and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 6 minutes ago, Strait Red said: Portugal has passed France in the UEFA league rankings. Thanks for the info @GlassCity Yay! Eustaquio finally made it into a Top-5 League! NVsoccer, Strait Red, Nate3322 and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floortom Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 The use of “top 5” league needs to be retired. BearcatSA, Trois Reds and Obinna 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
An Observer Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Strait Red said: Portugal has passed France in the UEFA league rankings. Thanks for the info @GlassCity Is England really a better league than Spain? Discuss Edited August 25, 2021 by An Observer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dyslexic nam Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 28 minutes ago, An Observer said: Is England really a better league than Spain? Discuss I mean, champion’s league final? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympique_de_Marseille Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 44 minutes ago, An Observer said: Is England really a better league than Spain? Discuss How to rile up @Unnamed Trialist , Step 3. Ruffian and NVsoccer 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nazzer Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 6 hours ago, Strait Red said: Portugal has passed France in the UEFA league rankings. Thanks for the info @GlassCity I wonder if this graphic was posted tongue in cheek? The coefficient has been updated live; after Benfica won the Champions League playoff round and got points for that, while Monaco still has to play their second leg tomorrow. It's akin to the level of statistical accuracy when reporters claim a team gained top spot in their league... while having played more games and the previous leader plays the next day. johnyb, WestHamCanadianinOxford and narduch 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestHamCanadianinOxford Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 (edited) 23 minutes ago, nazzer said: I wonder if this graphic was posted tongue in cheek? The coefficient has been updated live; after Benfica won the Champions League playoff round and got points for that, while Monaco still has to play their second leg tomorrow. It's akin to the level of statistical accuracy when reporters claim a team gained top spot in their league... while having played more games and the previous leader plays the next day. I was going to say: it means nothing in the moment. The 2021/22 numbers are obviously incomplete and are not used to determine anything until this season is finished. I believe the website the table comes from is Portuguese. Edited August 25, 2021 by WestHamCanadianinOxford narduch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nazzer Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 1 hour ago, WestHamCanadianinOxford said: I was going to say: it means nothing in the moment. The 2021/22 numbers are obviously incomplete and are not used to determine anything until this season is finished. I believe the website the table comes from is Portuguese. Ahh, I see. So the portuguese leeague is cherry picking data to look good. Classic use of misinformation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archer21 Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 12 hours ago, Strait Red said: Portugal has passed France in the UEFA league rankings. Thanks for the info @GlassCity In all honesty, I’m not sure why it was ever the “top 5 leagues” that everyone talks about. I’ve never considered France to be in the same league as the other 4. I’ve always thought they were closer to Portugal than they are to the top 4. Other than PSG since they started buying so many superstars. Floortom, johnyb and dyslexic nam 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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