Floortom Posted June 7, 2021 Share Posted June 7, 2021 8 minutes ago, Strait Red said: Can Tomori be called into a camp before the 3 years have elapsed? Is there any rules against tampering in a case like this? He’s not under contract to England, but he is in their system at the moment. Would this situation be different than calling a dual youth player like Jebbison or Flores? No rules against training - only against appearing in official matches. But why the hell would Tomori want that ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archer21 Posted June 7, 2021 Share Posted June 7, 2021 10 minutes ago, Strait Red said: Can Tomori be called into a camp before the 3 years have elapsed? Is there any rules against tampering in a case like this? He’s not under contract to England, but he is in their system at the moment. Would this situation be different than calling a dual youth player like Jebbison or Flores? As Schway said Akinola is already doing this. Luke Singh as well. He was even going to come to our camp and leave mid window to join T&T Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archer21 Posted June 7, 2021 Share Posted June 7, 2021 2 minutes ago, Floortom said: No rules against training - only against appearing in official matches. But why the hell would Tomori want that ? Probably wouldn’t want to now, but if we make WC 2022, he may want to join camp and get acclimated to the team if he plans to switch that November. TGAA_Star 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dyslexic nam Posted June 7, 2021 Share Posted June 7, 2021 3 minutes ago, Floortom said: No rules against training - only against appearing in official matches. But why the hell would Tomori want that ? Not to be blunt, but basically because he isn’t dumb. He knows better than any of us that he was handed 3 minutes of playing time to prevent him from going elsewhere. The complete lack of Call ups since then has to be a bit of a sore point. johnyb, h coach, Ivan and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corazon Posted June 7, 2021 Share Posted June 7, 2021 I don't think Tomori's dream with England is done but missing out on the Euro squad let alone the preliminary roster after the impressive 2nd half of season he just had with AC Milan has got to be difficult for him. Howver, give how well he has performed perhaps he thinks he is back on the cusp of the making the squad. AC Milan want him to stay full time and I think this will hurt his chances of breaking into the England squad so I am hoping he remains at Milan. If he wants to make England, he is going to need to lock down a starting role at one of the big clubs in England or to be an outstanding center back for a club just outside the top group. Here's hoping he stays with Milan! TGAA_Star 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floortom Posted June 7, 2021 Share Posted June 7, 2021 3 minutes ago, dyslexic nam said: Not to be blunt, but basically because he isn’t dumb. He knows better than any of us that he was handed 3 minutes of playing time to prevent him from going elsewhere. The complete lack of Call ups since then has to be a bit of a sore point. Maybe..but he’s not going to take time out of his international beak to travel across the ocean to train with a team he can’t even play with until Nov.22 all under the assumption that he will never get called again by England. I mean, no one seriously thinks he would really do that right ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dyslexic nam Posted June 7, 2021 Share Posted June 7, 2021 To clarify - I don’t think he is a lock for us or that it is even likely. But I could see him sending a signal to the England folks to remind him that he has options if they continue to ignore him for a while. TGAA_Star and Shway 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
costarg Posted June 7, 2021 Share Posted June 7, 2021 2 hours ago, Corazon said: Not to stir the pot anymore on this subject as most want to move past it but there is some buzz generating on twitter and reddit in the past couple of days that Tomori may still be eligible for Canada. I am not going to bother digging too deep into it but worth checking out if your interested. This reminds me a lot of an x-girlfriend when I was younger. Corazon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
costarg Posted June 7, 2021 Share Posted June 7, 2021 2 hours ago, BuzzAndSting said: Been posted in the relevant Tomori thread here. Bottom line is he can’t accept another call from England till Nov 2022 and then he’d be eligible for Canada again. Or Nigeria if we want to be honest. BuzzAndSting, Corazon and TGAA_Star 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archer21 Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 (edited) 17 hours ago, Floortom said: Maybe..but he’s not going to take time out of his international beak to travel across the ocean to train with a team he can’t even play with until Nov.22 all under the assumption that he will never get called again by England. I mean, no one seriously thinks he would really do that right ? I wouldn’t expect it any time soon, but if we look like we have a shot in let’s say the March 22 window, I could see it. Or perhaps in June 22 if we’re in the inter-confederation playoff. Or any camp between those times and the actual World Cup if we make it. If we don’t look like we will make the World Cup though, I’d expect him to wait a little longer for the England call though. Edit: this is all assuming he’d be able to complete his switch on time for the World Cup, which starts less than a week after he’s eligible to switch. Not sure if they’d be able to get all the paperwork and everything done ahead of time so that the switch is immediate. Edited June 8, 2021 by archer21 TGAA_Star 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SthMelbRed Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 11 hours ago, archer21 said: I wouldn’t expect it any time soon, but if we look like we have a shot in let’s say the March 22 window, I could see it. Or perhaps in June 22 if we’re in the inter-confederation playoff. Or any camp between those times and the actual World Cup if we make it. If we don’t look like we will make the World Cup though, I’d expect him to wait a little longer for the England call though. Edit: this is all assuming he’d be able to complete his switch on time for the World Cup, which starts less than a week after he’s eligible to switch. Not sure if they’d be able to get all the paperwork and everything done ahead of time so that the switch is immediate. I'm sure that they'd have the paperwork completed and sitting on the FIFA lackey's desk well before he actually becomes eligible if it were to come to pass that he declared his intention to represent Canada at the World Cup*. *assuming that we'd qualified. johnyb 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpecialK Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 Stupid question, can we and Haiti add players before the next match ? Like if Hutch and Arfield were good to go could we add them? Same with Haiti? French CB Jean-Kevin Duverne is eligible for Haiti. He would be a solid addition to their team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TGAA_Star Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 2 minutes ago, SpecialK said: Stupid question, can we and Haiti add players before the next match ? Like if Hutch and Arfield were good to go could we add them? Same with Haiti? French CB Jean-Kevin Duverne is eligible for Haiti. He would be a solid addition to their team. I think both teams can but only if there are injuries in camp but other than that I don't think so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dyslexic nam Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 3 minutes ago, TGAA_Star said: I think both teams can but only if there are injuries in camp but other than that I don't think so Is that confirmed? They are different qualification rounds so it seems like we should be able to adjust rosters. TGAA_Star and johnyb 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 (edited) 34 minutes ago, SpecialK said: Stupid question, can we and Haiti add players before the next match ? Like if Hutch and Arfield were good to go could we add them? Same with Haiti? French CB Jean-Kevin Duverne is eligible for Haiti. He would be a solid addition to their team. You can have a different 23 man roster for each match. This isn't a tournament. Each game is its own individual event. We literally just did this with Henry. He wasn't even in the Aruba squad at all. Edited June 9, 2021 by narduch TGAA_Star and dyslexic nam 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TGAA_Star Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 1 hour ago, narduch said: You can have a different 23 man roster for each match. This isn't a tournament. Each game is its own individual event. We literally just did this with Henry. He wasn't even in the Aruba squad at all. Then if that is the case, I would only bring back Hutch instead of Arfield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpecialK Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 4 minutes ago, TGAA_Star said: Then if that is the case, I would only bring back Hutch instead of Arfield. Hutch is hurt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkguy Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 How can Tomori switch to us? Isn't he already officially capped? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpecialK Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 Just now, Hawkguy said: How can Tomori switch to us? Isn't he already officially capped? New rule change Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkguy Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, SpecialK said: New rule change What is the rule, if you don't mind my asking? EDIT: Nevermind, it was easier to find than I thought. So if Jebbison came over for the Gold Cup, he could "cap himself" at 3 games and still qualify for a transfer to England if they want him in a few years? But Lucas Dias could not because there's only 2 1/2 years before he turns 21? Or is it they can transfer at any time if they are under 21 and less than 3 games? Edited June 9, 2021 by Hawkguy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TGAA_Star Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 2 minutes ago, SpecialK said: Hutch is hurt In that case, damn it bring back Arfield but he is not in my starting 11. He can start the game on the bench. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpecialK Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 Just now, Hawkguy said: What is the rule, if you don't mind my asking? https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.bbc.com/sport/africa/55947563.amp Fifa's recent amendments mean players under 21 can now change national teams even if they have played up to three competitive games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 7 minutes ago, Hawkguy said: How can Tomori switch to us? Isn't he already officially capped? He wouldn't be allowed to play until November 2022 Hawkguy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 6 minutes ago, TGAA_Star said: In that case, damn it bring back Arfield but he is not in my starting 11. He can start the game on the bench. You flip flopped pretty quickly there dyslexic nam and BuzzAndSting 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TGAA_Star Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 5 minutes ago, Alex said: You flip flopped pretty quickly there Yeah I meant I would call him but he's not in my starting XI. He would be on my bench as a substitute until he proves that he should be a starter again in our starting XI. Not just going to have him start because he's Arfield. No spots given on charity. Prove you're match fit or even in form and then we just might have a conversation. Alex 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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