Stryker911 Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 6 hours ago, Corazon said: These numbers only include the round robin games of the MLS is Back Tournament as these games contributed to league standings. All of the knockout round games are not included in these minutes. I know Jayden Nelson started the knockout game for Toronto and Tesho got quite a few minutes and even a goal in the knockout rounds as well. Unfortunately, these are not included. What stands out the most to me about this season is the amount of new players that saw minutes. As I mentioned, there were 9 more Canadians that played this season in a shortened season (rotation in a compact schedule had something to do with it). But when you consider how many Canadians that played last season but did not this year, it becomes even more impressive. Doneil Henry left for South Korea Will Johnson completely fell of the earth Mathieu Choinoire who had 681 minutes last year did not play this season. Brett Levis left Vancouver Ashtone Morgan left Toronto and never saw a minute with Salt Lake Daniel Kinumbe left Montreal Brian Wright left New England So yes, we had 9 more Canadians play this season but in reality we had 16 new Canadians play this season in MLS. Of all the new Canadians to play this season, 13 came either from the Canadian academies or MLS Draft picks. The exceptions were Cavallini, Gutierrez & Waterman. I keep a similar list. However I don't include Akinola or Ranjitsingh. My total minutes played by Canadians this year was 26018 (like you I included MLS is back group stage, but not playoffs). Last season was 27542 total minutes. This is actually pretty good given that there was 11 less games for some teams and even more for others. Prorated over a 34 game schedule it would be 38461 minutes. The big thing was having 4 goalies who all played a minimum of 3 games. I also include any player who has made a bench appearance. The average age the 46 players to make a game day roster was 22.49 (birth year is based on their first appearance of the season) Interestingly, this is the first time the age has dropped below 23.2 in the 5 years I have tracked this. Bison44, Club Linesman, Corazon and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stryker911 Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 https://www.mlssoccer.com/post/2020/12/05/breakout-players-audi-2020-mls-cup-playoffs-greg-seltzer 3 of the 6 breakout players identified are Buchanan, Johnston and St. Clair. Crazy... 3 Canadians playing on US MLS teams, aged 21, 22 and, 23, draft picks out of US universities that have never represented Canada at any level. This says so much about soccer at various levels. - the MLS draft and US university is a good development path and source of MLS talent - Canadian youth teams absolutely need to start looking beyond MLS academies for talent - we need to get some camps to incorporate these players and see where they fall in our top 23 squad - any chance the US teams start scouting League 1 teams for talent hamiltonfan, johnyb, Dominic94 and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominic94 Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 1 hour ago, Stryker911 said: https://www.mlssoccer.com/post/2020/12/05/breakout-players-audi-2020-mls-cup-playoffs-greg-seltzer 3 of the 6 breakout players identified are Buchanan, Johnston and St. Clair. Crazy... 3 Canadians playing on US MLS teams, aged 21, 22 and, 23, draft picks out of US universities that have never represented Canada at any level. This says so much about soccer at various levels. - the MLS draft and US university is a good development path and source of MLS talent - Canadian youth teams absolutely need to start looking beyond MLS academies for talent - we need to get some camps to incorporate these players and see where they fall in our top 23 squad - any chance the US teams start scouting League 1 teams for talent Doubtful on that they won’t even look at USL, there’s an article on this. A player from USL signed in Portugal 1st div on a free, MLS offered like 25k for the player and then 100k incentives... they don’t value the lower league players. A team that values players from there would have a gold mine. Can PL can be a good mine for a team that uses it but who will ? narduch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red card Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 (edited) 17 hours ago, Stryker911 said: h This says so much about soccer at various levels. - the MLS draft and US university is a good development path and source of MLS talent One year or two doesn't create a trend. MLS draft rounds have been downsized in recent years and the numbers show most drafted aren't in the league beyond a couple of years. For American college players, the draft has become a pathway to the USL but unfortunately for them, the MLS aren't interested in them anymore. For Canadians, the draft looks like a pathway for late bloomers if they're given the opportunity and time by MLS teams to flower. As our depth grows because of MLS academies and CPL, there are going to be more and more outside of this circle who won't get a look with youth national teams. They aren't being overlooked as in the past but for their age group, they have been deemed as tier 2 or below. They'll need more time and roundabout development pathways to get a pro contract. Edited December 6, 2020 by red card Ruffian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N1ckbr0wn Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 Anybody know anything about this kid? Popped up on my Twitter feed. Bison44 and Stryker911 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shortdutchcanuck Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 Bison44, Ivan and N1ckbr0wn 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate3322 Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 Looks like he was with the Whitecaps youth teams at one point. Born 2002 and he's a defender/midfielder according to the Whitecaps information on him. https://www.whitecapsfc.com/youth/eliteteams/residency/juvraj-kooner Bison44 and johnyb 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominic94 Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 25 minutes ago, Nate3322 said: Looks like he was with the Whitecaps youth teams at one point. Born 2002 and he's a defender/midfielder according to the Whitecaps information on him. https://www.whitecapsfc.com/youth/eliteteams/residency/juvraj-kooner No idea who this kid is but Whitecaps getting one snatched like that..... Not a small club either, loads of talent in the Whitecaps academy and they weren’t all going to play. Good for him, definitely something to watch, they must think highly of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bison44 Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 I think he might have my new fav CDN soccer name. Congrats to him, sounds like discovered at a tourney (with whitecaps academy??) a few years back, a year at Lank FC and onto Braga. Very exciting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearcatSA Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 I am curious to know more about the Lank Academy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strait Red Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 (edited) Here’s Gareth Wheeler’s prediction on the starting lineup for WCQ. Not sure how he overlooks Eustaquio and Arfield. Miller is an interesting choice at CB. Our CB situation is muddled with many choices, but certainly James, Cornelius and Henry would be a better choice IMO. anyway, just another pundit offering up an opinion. Edited December 30, 2020 by Strait Red johnyb 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpursFlu Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 Ahh the old.. lets purposely pick a bad team to create discussion trick.. well played Wheeler Obinna, Club Linesman, Nate3322 and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dyslexic nam Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 Miller doesn’t start over a healthy Henry IMO, and same goes for Kaye vs Eustaquio. And Johnston at RB? Seems odd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gigi riva Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 for me my staring LB would be Sammy Adugdebe and at RB I am going with Laryea. SkuseisLoose, NVsoccer, Club Linesman and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gigi riva Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 Central Back is such a weak spot for us So I will go with Vittoria and Henry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearcatSA Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 I would love to see Hoillet as a super sub off the bench, just like he did scoring against Wycombe today. Club Linesman, Free kick and gigi riva 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gigi riva Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 3 hours ago, BearcatSA said: I would love to see Hoillet as a super sub off the bench, just like he did scoring against Wycombe today. I agree I find him better as a Sub He just seems to more dangerous as a sub BearcatSA 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gigi riva Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 My two strikers upfront Im going with David , and Larin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jordan Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 That team is likely way off our best choice, but maybe against a weak opposition Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearcatSA Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 26 minutes ago, gigi riva said: for me my staring LB would be Sammy Adugdebe and at RB I am going with Laryea. I would prefer a natural portsider at left back, so I like these choices, as well, though I am a fan of ZBG. Club Linesman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baulderdash77 Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 17 minutes ago, jordan said: That team is likely way off our best choice, but maybe against a weak opposition As noted above, Wheeler picked a flawed team to create a conversation. It really is an old trick and it’s working. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jordan Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 16 minutes ago, baulderdash77 said: As noted above, Wheeler picked a flawed team to create a conversation. It really is an old trick and it’s working. Ah missed that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpursFlu Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 I certainly would entertain a Larin over Cavallini argument but I still think Cavallini brings more to the table. Larin is in decent form and would be one of my first subs. I also think Arfield and Euataquio need to start. Love Hoilett off the bench with Davies falling behind him while subbing off your LB. Miller at starting CB is never gonna happen Club Linesman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PiedPilko Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 Really don't think this is some secret 4D chess mind game. He just hasn't done his research. He really likes Johnston ('surprise MNT player of the year' he said), favors MLS players (Miller) and probably hasn't been following Eustaquio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SthMelbRed Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 Why is anybody putting any stock into what a man of Wheeler's age who dresses like he does has to say about anything? ted, MtlMario and jordan 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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