DeRo_Is_King Posted July 21, 2017 Share Posted July 21, 2017 They should have subbed out Teibert and put in Osorio instead of AJH. AJH is another one who does not have a future on this team, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowlander Posted July 21, 2017 Share Posted July 21, 2017 2 minutes ago, Obinna said: I think Zambrano got it wrong by playing too slow of a backline. I thought it was De Jong who'd be the risk, but he had a good game and good tournament. Vitoria, already on a yellow, should have been the one to sit out. Should have been James and Jakovic, or even James and Straith. Agree - James is a must against a team that fast. Thought De Jong had a pretty solid game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beachesl Posted July 21, 2017 Share Posted July 21, 2017 Well, Zam went for a hunch, he made a mistake, but what manager does not go for a hunch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nolbertos Posted July 21, 2017 Share Posted July 21, 2017 1 minute ago, One American said: I don't know what to do with Larin. When you look at the Twellmans and Wondos of the world, usually great-club-bad-country goal scorers have trouble getting separation against decent teams. Larin clearly gets good separation. It should just be a matter of putting it in. But he doesn't. You have to stick with him, I think. But it's a huge problem. Good analogy. Larin is our Wondo. Great in MLS, but shanks the ball in goal with the Nats. If we could have another forward, I'd put Larin further down. If Larin wants to really get better at finishing and score in high pressure games, he needs to get his ass to Europe and show what he's got. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted July 21, 2017 Share Posted July 21, 2017 2 minutes ago, One American said: I don't know what to do with Larin. When you look at the Twellmans and Wondos of the world, usually great-club-bad-country goal scorers have trouble getting separation against decent teams. Larin clearly gets good separation. It should just be a matter of putting it in. But he doesn't. You have to stick with him, I think. But it's a huge problem. I don't think you have to stick with him at all. Yes call him in when he is deserving and in form for club, but I am getting tired of him being given starts when he does not produce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted July 21, 2017 Share Posted July 21, 2017 1 minute ago, Grandbloke said: Really not sure about that. Cavallini has yet to score a goal for Canada. Larin looked completely out of sync with the group tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeRo_Is_King Posted July 21, 2017 Share Posted July 21, 2017 3 minutes ago, lowlander said: 7 minutes ago, Obinna said: I think Zambrano got it wrong by playing too slow of a backline. I thought it was De Jong who'd be the risk, but he had a good game and good tournament. Vitoria, already on a yellow, should have been the one to sit out. Should have been James and Jakovic, or even James and Straith. Agree - James is a must against a team that fast. Thought De Jong had a pretty solid game. I really thought Vitoria and Jakovic were our best CBs, but I'm really not sure after today. Maybe it really should be James and Jakovic... Man, we need help in the back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GimliJetsMan Posted July 21, 2017 Share Posted July 21, 2017 I thought De Jong had a good game, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted July 21, 2017 Share Posted July 21, 2017 Just now, DeRo_Is_King said: I really thought Vitoria and Jakovic were our bet CBs, but I'm really not sure after today. Maybe it really should be James and Jakovic... Man, we need help in the back. I think Jakovic and Vitoria are a good pairing, but not against teams with speed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Club Linesman Posted July 21, 2017 Share Posted July 21, 2017 5 minutes ago, Obinna said: Larin looked completely out of sync with the group tonight. Which is only probable as he had a few days of training and had not played in the three previous games. I am loving Oz but the two miscues were not starting James and starting Cyle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted July 21, 2017 Share Posted July 21, 2017 5 minutes ago, nolbertos said: Good analogy. Larin is our Wondo. Great in MLS, but shanks the ball in goal with the Nats. If we could have another forward, I'd put Larin further down. If Larin wants to really get better at finishing and score in high pressure games, he needs to get his ass to Europe and show what he's got. Wondo has a goal per 3 games with the US. That comparison is a slap in the face to him. Larin is on 5 goals in 21 game now, with no sign of turning it around anytime soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ob1 Posted July 21, 2017 Share Posted July 21, 2017 I get it... people are frustrated but wow, there is a whole lot of stupid on the board tonight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandbloke Posted July 21, 2017 Share Posted July 21, 2017 1 minute ago, Club Linesman said: I am loving Oz but the two miscues were not playing James and starting Cyle. I would have started Osorio instead of Teibert. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shway Posted July 21, 2017 Share Posted July 21, 2017 4 minutes ago, Obinna said: I think Jakovic and Vitoria are a good pairing, but not against teams with speed. Which is essentially the entire concacaf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halifaxfooty20 Posted July 21, 2017 Share Posted July 21, 2017 3 minutes ago, Obinna said: Larin looked completely out of sync with the group tonight. We've gotta understand that the team is still learning OZ's tactics, and the chemistry between players still insnt there. Larin is in a bit of a rough patch rn, considering the trauma from a DUI, the goal drought, and his abrupt arrival into the squad, its a bit shallow from people to criticize him. I know this team will be a fearsome attacking force, we just gotta wait guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted July 21, 2017 Share Posted July 21, 2017 2 minutes ago, Club Linesman said: Which is only probable as he had a few days of training and had not played in the three previous games. I am loving Oz but the two miscues were not playing James and starting Cyle. I can't recall if I officially went on record here saying Cavallini should start the game, but I certainly thought about it. When I saw the starting line up I was disappointed not to see him in there. Mistake but we now move on and wait another 2 years until official competition. I hope we see more friendlies in the meantime. The CSA has given us more in recent years but how do we expect to keep pace with CONCACAF when teams are playing more matches than we are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted July 21, 2017 Share Posted July 21, 2017 1 minute ago, Grandbloke said: I would have started Osorio instead of Teibert. Thought Teibert had a good game, but I would have been okay with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shway Posted July 21, 2017 Share Posted July 21, 2017 11 minutes ago, Obinna said: I don't think you have to stick with him at all. Yes call him in when he is deserving and in form for club, but I am getting tired of him being given starts when he does not produce. Samuel Piette was the epitome of this statement, and he was in the top 5 performers for Canada. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpg_29 Posted July 21, 2017 Share Posted July 21, 2017 A lot of hot takes here in the heat of the moment.. My general impression is we were playing against an opponent that had a sound gameplan (as they have been doing all tournament if you were watching them..) and that is to bunker and counter...and they beat us. Also we looked sluggish collectively. As soon as the match started I noticed how much we were not moving when in possession...just standing and ball watching. Don't know if that was the result of not playing in 6 days or what.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted July 21, 2017 Share Posted July 21, 2017 2 minutes ago, Jahinho Guerro said: Which is essentially the entire concacaf Meh, I wouldn't say that. The El Salvadors and Guatemalas of the region don't have too much pace. Even against teams like Costa Rica, USA and Mexico they are fine. Just not against the teams with incredible pace up front like Jamaica, T&T and Honduras (maybe Panama). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shway Posted July 21, 2017 Share Posted July 21, 2017 14 minutes ago, Grandbloke said: Really not sure about that. Cavallini has yet to score a goal for Canada. Scoring is a key thing for forwards, but being able to control and grt your midfielders involved is another key component that Cavallini does great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandbloke Posted July 21, 2017 Share Posted July 21, 2017 4 minutes ago, Obinna said: Thought Teibert had a good game, but I would have been okay with that. Agreed that Teibert played well, but Osorio would have given us a more potent attack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivanovski94 Posted July 21, 2017 Share Posted July 21, 2017 7 minutes ago, Jahinho Guerro said: Samuel Piette. Really? I dont want to sound too forceful but how retarded are ya? Stopped many plays in the middle, tough in the tackles, good tracking back, did the job he was supposed to do. We lose one game and the majority of the people here want the heads of any players who they personally dont like. I personally dont like Larin but I still think he deserve another chance, given he shouldnt have started today. Atleast the Spaniards from Bein sport seems to like our performance, they talked about many of the talking points we have, ex. the CBs should have been a fast cb with a slow cb, that Cavallini added more connection to the team and game play than larin, Piette's holding play was solid, Manjrekar was brilliant after coming on.... some of you people need to relax when we lose, imagine if you guys were the manager, the amount of players you idiots would axe after one non-perfect game, Canada would be at the level of Timor-leste. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shway Posted July 21, 2017 Share Posted July 21, 2017 1 minute ago, Obinna said: Meh, I wouldn't say that. The El Salvadors and Guatemalas of the region don't have too much pace. Even against teams like Costa Rica, USA and Mexico they are fine. Just not against the teams with incredible pace up front like Jamaica, T&T and Honduras (maybe Panama). I'll say this argument is dependent on who's playing. ...because each of those teams you mentioned have really pacey forward's (Campbell for CR, Lozano & Corona for MX, Wood, Agudelo for US)...it's the change of pace or direction that they struggle with, and that's why i think almost every forward has that in our region. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpg_29 Posted July 21, 2017 Share Posted July 21, 2017 1 minute ago, Ivanovski94 said: Really? I dont want to sound too forceful but how retarded are ya? Stopped many plays in the middle, tough in the tackles, good tracking back, did the job he was supposed to do. We lose one game and the majority of the people here want the heads of any players who they personally dont like. I personally dont like Larin but I still think he deserve another chance, given he shouldnt have started today. Atleast the Spaniards from Bein sport seems to like our performance, they talked about many of the talking points we have, ex. the CBs should have been a fast cb with a slow cb, that Cavallini added more connection to the team and game play than larin, Piette's holding play was solid, Manjrekar was brilliant after coming on.... some of you people need to relax when we lose, imagine if you guys were the manager, the amount of players you idiots would axe after one non-perfect game, Canada would be at the level of Timor-leste. yeah a lot of emotional knee-jerk reactions and not much objective analysis of the match...people just look for a scapegoat when losing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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