Winnipeg Fury Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 Congrats to the CPL on a job well done ! World class production, global distribution and boatloads of money ! Macron was big money and world class product, VW founding sponsorship, now another deal for $150 million. Nothing but world class deals, with leading global companies. CPL office is going to be fielding lots of phone calls regarding CPL expansion ! Keegan, red card, Lofty and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ansem Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 matty, Winnipeg Fury, lazlo_80 and 6 others 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matty Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 man today is pretty cool, cpl made like $110m in a day and i secured a streaming deal for a project i've been working on (unreleated lol) Keegan, dyslexic nam, johnyb and 2 others 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazlo_80 Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 The stability factor continues to be something a lot of the people in the press keep raising. To know you have a guaranteed revenue stream and locked in partner is such a huge benefit. Not only are you locked in financially, you aren’t busy using your limited resources trying to lock down new broadcast partners every few years. dyslexic nam, johnyb, BradMack and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpg_29 Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 6 minutes ago, Ansem said: Desktop app? I assume that means web app. All this sounds like it would not possible in this timeframe normally but I assume they already have a bunch of existing technology assets(ie beIN websites/app code) and are just going to rebrand it to whatever they are going to call it in Canada. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ansem Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 (edited) That's also extra revenues Edited February 21, 2019 by Ansem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazlo_80 Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 1 minute ago, Ansem said: That's also extra revenues Is that so? Huh. I had no idea teams actually got anything from that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gopherbashi Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 29 minutes ago, matty said: man today is pretty cool, cpl made like $110m in a day and i secured a streaming deal for a project i've been working on (unreleated lol) Matty secret genius behind the CPL over here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ansem Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 4 minutes ago, lazlo_80 said: Is that so? Huh. I had no idea teams actually got anything from that. I think its more like a royalty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KW519 Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 2 minutes ago, lazlo_80 said: Is that so? Huh. I had no idea teams actually got anything from that. EA has to pay licensing fees. Since EA is Canada based there's a good chance we see the league in 2020 johnyb 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazlo_80 Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 Just now, KW519 said: EA has to pay licensing fees. Since EA is Canada based there's a good chance we see the league in 2020 Not holding my breath considering how long it took to get the national team in there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zem Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 2 minutes ago, KW519 said: EA has to pay licensing fees. Since EA is Canada based there's a good chance we see the league in 2020 EA is an American company; their Vancouver studio has been the main developer of the FIFA series for decades, but they don't get a say in what leagues actually go in the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KW519 Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 1 minute ago, Zem said: EA is an American company; their Vancouver studio has been the main developer of the FIFA series for decades, but they don't get a say in what leagues actually go in the game. EA Canada is Canada based* Who decides on what leagues are in the game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegan Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 15 minutes ago, KW519 said: EA has to pay licensing fees. Since EA is Canada based there's a good chance we see the league in 2020 Licensing fees? Scrap that... the revenue/exposure from having CPL in the game would make it worthwhile alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchmen Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 I find it weird that the CSB isn't actually saying what the dollar figure is. We're going based on sources. Big leagues talk about the value of their TV contracts. If it was smaller I could understand why they'd want to shield it, but if it's large as speculated than I'd think that's something they'd want front and center. "We're going to be a big deal in sports TV in this country and here's why." So I think maybe it's not as much cash as people want to think, that it's going to be tied up in to production costs a lot more. And I'd still love to know the split in revenue, because as excited as people are for the CPL I'd love to ensure that the national teams are being properly funded as well. Kent and Lofty 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegan Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 I hope @BringBackTheBlizzard isn't straining himself too hard trying to spin this! Getting worried. BBTB probably: "There's nothing to suggest this league will be better than USL. A broadcasting deal just means you'll have lower attendances, which could be fatal." ted, Bbeto, gator and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zem Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 7 minutes ago, KW519 said: EA Canada is Canada based* Who decides on what leagues are in the game? EA Canada and EA Vancouver are the same thing, they're literally just a subsidiary studio owned by EA. EA Headquarters in California decides, because they pay the bills, including licensing fees. EA Vancouver can only add leagues EA think they will get a return on, which very well might not include the CPL for now, but who knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kent Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 I love this news, it's very big, but I really don't think the $200/$150 million figures being thrown around mean what people are interpreting it to mean. The article I read said... A source said Mediapro is investing $200 million into the Canadian project over the lifetime of the deal. Scott Mitchell, CEO of Canadian Soccer Business, calls it "the single-largest commitment any company has ever made in terms of soccer in Canada." In the live stream they talked about basically starting up from nothing in Canada. They are going to be hiring locals to deal with the production, etc. I really think this $200 million is largely (possibly entirely) their expenses for producing content and games. They'll have to buy equipment, hire cameramen, directors, writers, on air talent, etc. As more teams join the league that investment will have to grow in terms of having more people to create more content. There might be some amount of payment towards the league, but I think likely the vast majority of that number is the cost of giving us stuff to watch. That might not sound as sexy as a duffle bag of money being dropped off at the head office of each team every year, but it eliminates the worries of CPL having to pay for all those expenses, or asking TSN or Sportsnet to take on those expenses. As people have pointed out previously, TSN and Sportsnet play things like darts and poker because they just have to throw a tape in a VCR (I'm assuming they are using VCRs) and then go for a smoke break. Now they can do that with CPL games, CPL pre game and post game shows, and CPL features that MediaPro makes. Watchmen, johnyb, ted and 5 others 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kent Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 10 minutes ago, Watchmen said: I find it weird that the CSB isn't actually saying what the dollar figure is. We're going based on sources. Big leagues talk about the value of their TV contracts. If it was smaller I could understand why they'd want to shield it, but if it's large as speculated than I'd think that's something they'd want front and center. "We're going to be a big deal in sports TV in this country and here's why." So I think maybe it's not as much cash as people want to think, that it's going to be tied up in to production costs a lot more. And I'd still love to know the split in revenue, because as excited as people are for the CPL I'd love to ensure that the national teams are being properly funded as well. You beat me to it. That's what I get for proofreading my post and then getting tied up in a conversation with my wife. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, Gopherbashi said: Yeah, surely 7 teams in the future, but for right now (and even years out) it's a huge chunk of change for those teams. Ted's source said the deal is worth $150m to the league, not to CSB - so I don't think we need to arbitrarily cut it down to 60%. Similarly, I haven't seen anyone say this is USD or CAD, but considering it's Canadian sources dealing with a Canadian product, CAD seems fair. Besides, if it's $150m or $200m USD, that works out to even more in CAD. And even if we work with the assumptions above and say it's "only" $1m per team - based on the numbers we've heard - that's still likely covering most (if not all) of their player salaries. Still a huge amount of money for these guys. The article said that the total MediaPro investment is around $200m. So if VCup + MNT + WNT don't get paid out of the $150m then they get paid out of the remaining $50m -- which, unless their cut is very small, would not leave much for production costs. Under your assumption that CPL gets $150m, how would you envision the breakdown for the other $50m, between production costs and "VCup + MNT + WNT"? Edited February 21, 2019 by dsqpr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchmen Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 4 hours ago, Ansem said: And now they should have a better idea of where the salary cap should be. Don't know about year 1, but it will go up faster than we think Well, no. This media deal is for the next 10 years so you already know what your revenue source from it is. And further, if you're adding teams over that time period (as they will), then any dollar value from it per team actually goes down. So the cap might go up, but it won't be because of this deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackTheBlizzard Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 22 minutes ago, Keegan said: I hope @BringBackTheBlizzard isn't straining himself too hard trying to spin this! Getting worried. BBTB probably: "There's nothing to suggest this league will be better than USL. A broadcasting deal just means you'll have lower attendances, which could be See Kent's post above for what I would otherwise have pointed out. It's not clear yet what this means for the league in actual revenue terms. 1996, Kent, Lofty and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 33 minutes ago, BringBackTheBlizzard said: See Kent's post above for what I would otherwise have pointed out. It's not clear yet what this means for the league in actual revenue terms. Even if it turns out to be a lot less cash than the $150m mooted, it is still a good deal. At the end of ten years, the sport and CPL should be firmly rooted and ready to push on with a much bigger deal that does provide a lot of cash. It is a great time for Canadian football. Bbeto, Kent, johnyb and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zen Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 16 minutes ago, dsqpr said: Even if it turns out to be a lot less cash than the $150m mooted, it is still a good deal. At the end of ten years, the sport and CPL should be firmly rooted and ready to push on with a much bigger deal that does provide a lot of cash. It is a great time for Canadian football Rooted in what? As I said in a previous post. MediaPros interest are not the same as the league's. They will license to whichever broadcaster bids the highest, and that may not be the broadcaster that's best for providing the league with exposure. Without mainstream exposure, it is likely that the only people that will watch this will be diehards. Additionally, to be mainstream the league needs to be on Sportsnet or TSN, but they have a vested interest in MLS. So if there is no mainstream appeal, the only people watching the league in 10 years are diehards, and mainstream media has no incentive to broadcast the league, how do they plan on getting a better deal? How will this league grow? I honestly think they've humstrung themselves going down this path by selling off the rights to MediaPro. How much control will the really have on where the content is distributed? If they do have some control over these negotiations maybe there is hope yet, otherwise I do not understand this decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackTheBlizzard Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 18 minutes ago, dsqpr said: Even if it turns out to be a lot less cash than the $150m mooted, it is still a good deal... We need a few years of watching it all unfold to see how many people are willing to actually pay for all the content that is involved before being able to tell whether that is actually the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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