Unnamed Trialist Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 (edited) Does anyone have the possibility to look at the OneSoccer repeats? For that first goal I'd like to see the full sequence, from maybe 15 second before. To see how they were moving. Because Kamal has pushed forward, combines with Oso and Laryea, and I think its Osorio who is marked and passes back to Eustaquio. Who is sitting deepest of all our field players, with Vitória over in the middle, Stephan covering for Kamal. This shows a strong sense of positional play, a guy who is not our deepest mid covering that far back as one defender goes forward. And then he takes a long control and looks up. Even though Hoillet is doing a loop from away to back in to stay onside (you can see he already made a half run and was offside, came back, started again) he understands where he is going and drops it into a corner of the box. Contrast this with his later goal, where he moves into the position furthest up the field in our attack. Some real positional and tactical quality there. I am frankly shocked no one has come along to sign this guy from a more potent club. Edited July 27, 2021 by Unnamed Trialist PiedPilko, ghostknownunknown, nolando and 5 others 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frmr Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 7 minutes ago, Unnamed Trialist said: ... Some real positional and tactical quality there. I am frankly shocked no one has come along to sign this guy from a more potent club. It has to be only a matter of time. There's no way he doesn't get bought by a bigger club after his performance this tournament. There will be a lot of eyes on him against Mexico and hopefully he has his best game yet. JohnnyFranchise 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheeta Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 The 2nd goal as much as it was coming was more than a bit fortuitous. "Forechecking" paying off sort of fortuitous. WestHamCanadianinOxford 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lansdude Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 Is the replay up yet? I checked a couple hours ago and didn't see it. It's two days later for cryin' out loud! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 14 minutes ago, Lansdude said: Is the replay up yet? I checked a couple hours ago and didn't see it. It's two days later for cryin' out loud! I see it there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shway Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 5 hours ago, JohnnyFranchise said: i'll bet you a coke wotherspoon doesn't see the pitch in september if the rest of that group is healthy. ….I don’t know, he looked good recently, and is committed. At this point I’ll be surprised if Arfield is there in September. But Eustaqiuo is currently our best midfielder. JohnnyFranchise 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyFranchise Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 2 minutes ago, Shway said: ….I don’t know, he looked good recently, and is committed. At this point I’ll be surprised if Arfield is there in September. But Eustaqiuo is currently our best midfielder. Definitely agree on arfield. Agree on wotherspoon as well, I just think he's pretty far down the depth chart to get any play. Shway 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Diego Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 15 hours ago, Lansdude said: Is the replay up yet? I checked a couple hours ago and didn't see it. It's two days later for cryin' out loud! I watched it about 4-5 hours after the final whistle. Ivan and johnyb 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ansem Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 (edited) 17 hours ago, JohnnyFranchise said: i'll bet you a coke wotherspoon doesn't see the pitch in september if the rest of that group is healthy. Start drinking - no way a guy being instrumental in his club playing Europa playoffs doesn't see the pitch. Consistency is key and I have nothing against Kaye and Osorio but they haven't always been consistent - Wotherspoon has and against the likes of Rangers and Celtic. Edited July 28, 2021 by Ansem lowlander, Nate3322, JohnnyFranchise and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 1 minute ago, Ansem said: Start drinking - no way a guy being instrumental in his club playing Europa playoffs doesn't see the pitch. Consistency is key and I have nothing against Kaye and Osorio but they haven't always been consistent - Wotherspoon has and against the likes of Rangers and Celtic. I don't know about this. Wotherspoon was very good in June qualifiers, but even so he still wasn't starting ahead of Kaye and Osorio. Now both have cemented their spots at the Gold Cup. It's one thing for Hutchinson/Arfield to replace Kaye/Osorio, but I don't think either lose their spot to Wotherspoon unless he is absolutely crushing it at St. Johnstone. There is just too much good mojo between Kaye, Osorio and Eustaquio right now. I like Wotherspoon, I think we'll use him at times during the Ocho, but he is very clearly the 7th choice, whether we like it or not. That may be good enough to get on the September roster, but it would be at the expense of Liam Fraser. It won't be long before Baldisimo and Priso are knocking on the door, and we still don't know how Paton figures in with all of this. Things are looking very good for us in midfield. Corazon, baulderdash77 and Ruffian 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lansdude Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 28 minutes ago, El Diego said: I watched it about 4-5 hours after the final whistle. Didn't realize it doesn't also get posted immediately on the competitions page that lists all the old replays. I was refreshing that one. I'm dumb af but that website still sucks. El Hombre and El Diego 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazlo_80 Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 Hey totally unrelated to the current convo in here, but is he still on the books at Pacos or is he on the move? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 11 minutes ago, lazlo_80 said: Hey totally unrelated to the current convo in here, but is he still on the books at Pacos or is he on the move? Still at Pacos for now. lazlo_80 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floortom Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 I know Transfrmtk isn’t the be all and end all (although it’s usually pretty accurate) but I don’t get how his market value is so low at $4.4M. Obviously his club situation plays a big part but anyone is getting a huge steal if they get him for $8M or less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PiedPilko Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Floortom said: I know Transfrmtk isn’t the be all and end all (although it’s usually pretty accurate) but I don’t get how his market value is so low at $4.4M. Obviously his club situation plays a big part but anyone is getting a huge steal if they get him for $8M or less. Because Cruz Azul didn't actually have anyone keeping track of him and slapped on a $2.5 mil buy option without thinking. Since that was the most recent fee, that's what his 'objective' value seems to be. Pacos are probably waiting for a 7-8 mil offer, and Porto/Braga were probably expecting to get him cheap. It's very difficult to convince big clubs that someone's value tripled in a single season. Edited July 28, 2021 by PiedPilko Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baulderdash77 Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 I think his club value is about right. I expect that any deal for him will be around $5 million roughly. He’s not going to transfer for $8 I don’t think. johnyb and The Real Marc 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyFranchise Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 2 hours ago, Ansem said: Start drinking - no way a guy being instrumental in his club playing Europa playoffs doesn't see the pitch. Consistency is key and I have nothing against Kaye and Osorio but they haven't always been consistent - Wotherspoon has and against the likes of Rangers and Celtic. I get your point and I agree, but I said last night I think he's just too far down the depth chart to get any play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sebdeserio Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 6 minutes ago, JohnnyFranchise said: I get your point and I agree, but I said last night I think he's just too far down the depth chart to get any play. Only undroppable mid is Eustaquio. Atiba will definitely not play every game, Arfield if he decides to show would also be rested (probably as a condition to him coming), then Wotherspoon is in the tier with Osorio Kaye and Piette, although probably last in that tier. All it take is a couple injuries/suspensions and we could see him start. JohnnyFranchise, Stryker911, johnyb and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beaver 2.0 Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 1 hour ago, sebdeserio said: Only undroppable mid is Eustaquio. Atiba will definitely not play every game, Arfield if he decides to show would also be rested (probably as a condition to him coming), then Wotherspoon is in the tier with Osorio Kaye and Piette, although probably last in that tier. All it take is a couple injuries/suspensions and we could see him start. Thank goodness for some decent depth. Injuries are almost guaranteed. JohnnyFranchise 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaFan123 Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 3 minutes ago, The Beaver 2.0 said: Thank goodness for some decent depth. Injuries are almost guaranteed. Suspensions as well with 14 matches we'll have plenty. The Beaver 2.0 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kadenge Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 The last time Canada made it to the semi finals in 2007, Julian De Guzman our #6 and defensive midfielder was voted Gold Cup MVP. Is history going to repeat itself? Eustaquio is in 2nd place for the golden boot with 3 G 1A ( Larin is still tied for 3rd with 3G). Regardless of whether he wins the scoring race or not, his play to date makes him a strong contender. The 3 min video of, ironically, the 2007 Costa Rica game below, is a example of why JDG won the MVP; albeit with the best midfield in Concacaf...warning the music may not be to your taste MtlMario and johnyb 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig11rm Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 1 hour ago, Kadenge said: The last time Canada made it to the semi finals in 2007, Julian De Guzman our #6 and defensive midfielder was voted Gold Cup MVP. Is history going to repeat itself? Eustaquio is in 2nd place for the golden boot with 3 G 1A ( Larin is still tied for 3rd with 3G). Regardless of whether he wins the scoring race or not, his play to date makes him a strong contender. The 3 min video of, ironically, the 2007 Costa Rica game below, is a example of why JDG won the MVP; albeit with the best midfield in Concacaf...warning the music may not be to your taste The 2007 gold cup is what got me following the MNT and reading this forum. I remember after the gold cup we played a friendly against Brazil and we did really well against them. De Guzman scored a nice goal but also made a bad back pass. I have a feeling Eustaquio is going to have an even better career than De Guzman though.. yomurphy1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norrin Radd Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 2 hours ago, Kadenge said: The last time Canada made it to the semi finals in 2007, Julian De Guzman our #6 and defensive midfielder was voted Gold Cup MVP. Is history going to repeat itself? Eustaquio is in 2nd place for the golden boot with 3 G 1A ( Larin is still tied for 3rd with 3G). Regardless of whether he wins the scoring race or not, his play to date makes him a strong contender. The 3 min video of, ironically, the 2007 Costa Rica game below, is a example of why JDG won the MVP; albeit with the best midfield in Concacaf...warning the music may not be to your taste In the 2007 edition we lost to the US due to incompetent officiating. That's also something that has been repeated in 2021. narduch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aird25 Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 It sounds like Cruz Azul didn’t offer him much support after his ACL injury and Canada stepped in. Do we know more details about this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youllneverwalkalone Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 38 minutes ago, Norrin Radd said: In the 2007 edition we lost to the US due to incompetent officiating. That's also something that has been repeated in 2021. That was a great team. Stephen Hart was Herdman before Herdman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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