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54 minutes ago, matty said:

...I really hope they reveal stuff soon cause honestly this league is wracking my head economically. How do you expect to pay the amount of money they seem on pace to pay and expect this to work with gates? It's driving me crazy!

Has Paul Beirne ever been quoted on the $1.5 million salary cap that always seems to be used as the ballpark figure? Assuming 5500 spectators per game for 15 games and an average paid ticket price per spectator of $15 (sounds low but factors in Ottawa Fury style youth soccer group sales and freebies used to get people to sample the product) you would have about $1.2 million, so that seems a bit high to me and more likely to be the total budget, if the league is primarily gate driven. My guess would be that sort of thing is aspirational more than anything else and after year one they would adjust appropriately in budgetary terms either upwards or downwards in response to whatever the fiscal realities are after the initial startup capital has been spent and they have a good read on what crowd levels are likely to be moving forward.

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11 minutes ago, BringBackTheBlizzard said:

Has Paul Beirne ever been quoted on the $1.5 million salary cap that always seems to be used as the ballpark figure? Assuming 5500 spectators per game for 15 games and an average paid ticket price per spectator of $15 (sounds low but factors in Ottawa Fury style youth soccer group sales and freebies used to get people to sample the product) you would have about $1.2 million, so that seems a bit high to me and more likely to be the total budget, if the league is primarily gate driven. My guess would be that sort of thing is aspirational more than anything else and after year one they would adjust appropriately in budgetary terms either upwards or downwards in response to whatever the fiscal realities are after the initial startup capital has been spent and they have a good read on what crowd levels are likely to be moving forward.

Pb hasn't yet said anything publicly and thank god cause that would cause a mess. The issue is gates are unreliable and this is likely gonna cost like $20m before year one is done (add another 20 if saskatoon does their dream stadium) when you add travel costs, stadium costs ect.

It's a good thing the people involved have hundreds of millions to play with.

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I tried to build a team under a 1.5 million CAD salary cap based off of players whose salaries are reported, are pretty expendable to their current clubs, and aren't obviously underpaid. Assuming a 25-man roster and the non-starters averaging 30k a week, I'm left with 1,080,000 CAD, let's make that 876,000 USD to make working with MLS reported salaries easier. 

FW- Jordan Hamilton (CAN), $70,000

FW- Brian Wright (CAN), $60,000

MID- Bradford Jamieson (USA), $66,000

MID- Andrés Romero (ARG), $120,000

MID- Russell Teibert (CAN), $125,000

MID- Tyler Pasher (CAN), $53,000

DF- Kip Colvey (NZE), $55,000

DF- Shaun Francis (JAM), $115,000

DF- Amer Didic (CAN), $55,000

DF- Zach Lloyd (USA),  $85,000

GK- Maxime Crepeau (CAN), $75,000

= $879,000...close enough.

Obviously the CPL wouldn't be able to get all of these players at these prices and some would require a transfer fee, but this isn't really about these specific players...I'm just showing that you can make a pretty exciting, NASL or better squad with around 1.5 million CAD a year just pulling from MLS rosters. You play the market right, you could have a better team for even cheaper.

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Makes sense and shows they are serious about this and not just posturing for attention seeking reasons. No way do you sink $20 million into a stadium in a startup Canadian pro soccer league until the market for it has been demonstrated. This appears to be the location:

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Prairieland+Park/@52.0983801,-106.6752633,158m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x5304f0c1757830db:0x634600bcb1873bc9!8m2!3d52.0984501!4d-106.6776397?hl=en

Easy to put down a Nexturf tile field there and add bleachers on the other side by the looks of things.

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7 hours ago, Dub Narcotic said:

That is Marquis Downs, the horse racing track in Saskatoon. It's used all summer for that purpose, I don't know how you would fit soccer into there. 

No it is not. Exhibition Grandstand is a separate venue that, among other things, the "free" musical acts during play during Exibition week. Marquis Downs is a different facility on the exhibition grounds. Which is why none of these reports use the words "Marquis Downs".

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Couple of more articles from Saskatoon

http://www.ckom.com/2017/09/20/council-hears-ideas-for-new-improved-recreation-facilities/

"Highlighting the pitches was a $20 million soccer stadium, which would be designed to house a Canadian Premier League team in Saskatoon.

Former Canadian national soccer player Joe Belan said the plan was to install a modular stadium with 8,200 seats in the north end of downtown.

The facility would include a turf field and bubble dome to allow for winter use.

He added they hadn’t worked out a financial plan for the stadium yet and were hoping to form a partnership with the city.

“Any financing proposal that we put forth will not impact taxpayers at all,” Belan told 650 CKOM Wednesday.

He touted the facility as a draw for international sporting events, including the possibility of acting as a training and practice facility for a national team during the 2026 World Cup.

Belan’s group is still working with the newly-minted Canadian Premier League to secure a Saskatchewan franchise, which could hit the field by 2019.

He said they would play in front of the Prairieland Park grandstand until a stadium could be built.

Once construction started, Belan said the stadium could be completed within 10 months.

“We want to be here 50 years or beyond,” he said. “This is a long-term, legacy investment.”

And nothing much new in this I can see but still http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/saskatoon/rec-pitch-council-1.4299537

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37 minutes ago, Rheo said:

Couple of more articles from Saskatoon.......

*wakes up. feels like ****. bitter at the world for denying me a good nights sleep and the inability to safely ride by bike to work. while drinking coffee that's black cause my gf finished, turn on laptop and goes to lawznews.com where i read this article. after becoming annoyed by the article, comes here and reads rheo's post.* "well at least saskatoon is doing interesting things with its life"

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I've never liked Red Lobster.  Also had to walk and get cream before my morning coffee because no one else in the office will buy.  Happy day all :)

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Sounds like he was playing one city off against the other, but Saskatoon now has the inside track:

http://thestarphoenix.com/sports/local-sports/groups-pro-soccer-push-includes-downtown-stadium-for-saskatoon

...He estimates it would take nine to 10 months to build the new stadium, and he envisions playing games at Prairieland in 2019 and 2020 before moving into a new facility in 2021, he said...Belan is also talking with Regina about putting the team there. One of his ideas was to use a large portion of the old Taylor Field, including the west grandstand. That would have saved him money in stadium construction, and the city money in demolition. The proposal didn’t pan out...“Back in July, when we were still evaluating both cities, it was really a coin toss,” Belan added. “At this point, the differentiating factor is that we’re close to a commercial agreement on Prairieland. We think that’s a suitable facility to introduce the project...We’re getting to a point where we need to start making some commitments, financially and otherwise, for being in the league in 2019. We think Prairieland, assuming we can come to a final agreement with them, would give us a viable venue to start in 2019.” ...

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2 minutes ago, Marc said:

Everyone loves Red Lobster

 

Just now, Rheo said:

Not a fan of seafood lol

Are there still Red Lobsters in Canada? Also everyone should read LawNewz they have some of the more interesting takes on legal matters and have one of the best W T F sections out there.

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4 minutes ago, matty said:

 

Are there still Red Lobsters in Canada? Also everyone should read LawNewz they have some of the more interesting takes on legal matters and have one of the best W T F sections out there.

Is the NASL case on that ?

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Missed a word

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