Kent Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 (edited) I think all this speculation about what type of internationals will be signed is a product of being trained by MLS to think of each roster spot as having specific rules that a player must match this, this, this, and this in order to be signed. I think the international spots will be used by CPL teams to sign international players, and that their age, experience, position on the field, leadership qualities, etc, will vary from player to player. Edited December 13, 2018 by Kent Sometimes my iPad gives me a number when I want a letter. Rintaran and CDNFootballer 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youllneverwalkalone Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 I'd add that one fault of MLS is signing lots of players who can't speak English. CPL will want all their guys to get out in the media and community as much as possible. CDNFootballer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ansem Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 Not trying to be a troublemaker... oh what the hell... youllneverwalkalone and BenFisk'sBiggestFan 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kacbru Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 7 hours ago, Ansem said: Not trying to be a troublemaker... oh what the hell... Yeah, then Al Ain came back in the 2nd half and tied it, it was goal-less in extra time and they went on to win 4-3 in penalties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 Not trying to be a troublemaker... oh what the hell... Complete Homer, Khris and BradMack 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Complete Homer Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 (edited) Whoa. While one part of me finds this hilarious, the other part of me is worried the Fury might fold over this. People rich enough to own sports teams don't like to be dictated to, the only way Goudie was going to switch was on his own terms Whatever you think about the Fury for skipping out on CPL, they would be a loss to Canadian soccer Edited December 13, 2018 by Complete Homer DrummingInMySleep and Blackjack15 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 And now the club has confirmed the report. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gopherbashi Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 I didn't realise that concacaf had this power, I thought it was just the CSA. xabuep2 and Kent 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gopherbashi Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 Makes me wonder what would happen to existing contracts if OFFC gets blocked from playing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zem Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 To clarify, this was a unilateral move by Concacaf. Canada Soccer approved Ottawa to play in the USL, but Concacaf believes that the CPL's existence nullifies the "exceptional circumstance" which previously permitted it to play in the US. On another note, I'm excited to have a club to support in the this season. I'm excited the city I grew up in will finally be part of Canadian soccer history, even if it has to get dragged kicking and screaming into it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gopherbashi Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 Just now, Zem said: To clarify, this was a unilateral move by Concacaf. Canada Soccer approved Ottawa to play in the USL, but Concacaf believes that the CPL's existence nullifies the "exceptional circumstance" which previously permitted it to play in the US. On another note, I'm excited to have a club to support in the this season. I'm excited the city I grew up in will finally be part of Canadian soccer history, even if it has to get dragged kicking and screaming into it. So it's Vic tossing his weight around? shamrock 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 3 minutes ago, Gopherbashi said: So it's Vic tossing his weight around? That seems obvious, IMO. shamrock 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zem Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 Just now, Gopherbashi said: So it's Vic tossing his weight around? I mean, it's probably justified. The "exceptional circumstance" was probably that there wasn't another league at a comparable level in Canada, but now there is. Clubs can't just play in another country's league just because they feel like it, there needs to be a clear reason relating to opportunity and/or level of play. Also, Concacaf has a board of directors which makes decsions like this, so it probably wasn't just Montagliani. xabuep2, Shakmur, m-g-williams and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbailey62 Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 23 minutes ago, Zem said: I mean, it's probably justified. The "exceptional circumstance" was probably that there wasn't another league at a comparable level in Canada, but now there is. Clubs can't just play in another country's league just because they feel like it, there needs to be a clear reason relating to opportunity and/or level of play. Also, Concacaf has a board of directors which makes decsions like this, so it probably wasn't just Montagliani. Yes, well said! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MM3/MM2/MM Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 Hopefully this gets resolved soon, so that we will have a pro soccer team in Ottawa this summer, preferably CanPL. dyslexic nam 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cblake Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 1 hour ago, Zem said: To clarify, this was a unilateral move by Concacaf. Canada Soccer approved Ottawa to play in the USL, but Concacaf believes that the CPL's existence nullifies the "exceptional circumstance" which previously permitted it to play in the US. On another note, I'm excited to have a club to support in the this season. I'm excited the city I grew up in will finally be part of Canadian soccer history, even if it has to get dragged kicking and screaming into it. But would they not have to do the same thing to TFCII, who also play in the USL, if not it would give the Fury what they need to challenge it, wonder if this means the CPL would have to take them in if the CSA insists on them doing it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ams1984 Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 1 minute ago, Cblake said: But would they not have to do the same thing to TFCII, who also play in the USL, if not it would give the Fury what they need to challenge it, wonder if this means the CPL would have to take them in if the CSA insists on them doing it? I think that the TFC II situation is a bit different; it’s essentially a reserve club which should play in D2 or lower, while Ottawa isn’t. Ottawa never had an available route to D1 before because there wasn’t a Canadian D1, hence the sanctioning exception that was made for them. I think they are in trouble. When a nationally sanctioned D2 comes around, I’m confident that TFC II will be required to move there too. dyslexic nam 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cblake Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 1 minute ago, Ams1984 said: I think that the TFC II situation is a bit different; it’s essentially a reserve club which should play in D2 or lower, while Ottawa isn’t. Ottawa never had an available route to D1 before because there wasn’t a Canadian D1, hence the sanctioning exception that was made for them. I think they are in trouble. When a nationally sanctioned D2 comes around, I’m confident that TFC II will be required to move there too. TFC II is actually playing in the USL D3 league this year but I don't see them being pushed to L1O. I just wonder how the courts will see it if it ends up there. Ruffian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kent Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 Very shocked about this news. I am going to hold off on celebrating because it seems like this could go a lot of different ways. Hopefully there is desire and enough time for them to join CPL for 2019. Bbeto, Blackjack15 and dyslexic nam 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ams1984 Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 1 minute ago, Cblake said: TFC II is actually playing in the USL D3 league this year but I don't see them being pushed to L1O. I just wonder how the courts will see it if it ends up there. It’s impossible to predict the judicial process. I would say that a court case can generally take years, the Fury don’t have that sort of time. Their only play is to try to seek an injunction, which is a possibility, but injunctions are understandably not easy to get; a regular Court decision makes whole, by remedying a past or ongoing wrong, but an injunction prevents an imminent one, and so naturally they are tougher to get. Worth a shot for the Fury I guess, but they won’t have it easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gopherbashi Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 16 minutes ago, Cblake said: TFC II is actually playing in the USL D3 league this year but I don't see them being pushed to L1O. I just wonder how the courts will see it if it ends up there. What country would the case even be held in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gopherbashi Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 20 minutes ago, Ams1984 said: I think that the TFC II situation is a bit different; it’s essentially a reserve club which should play in D2 or lower, while Ottawa isn’t. Ottawa never had an available route to D1 before because there wasn’t a Canadian D1, hence the sanctioning exception that was made for them. I think they are in trouble. When a nationally sanctioned D2 comes around, I’m confident that TFC II will be required to move there too. Time for Ottawa to call themselves a reserve club of Montreal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboAl Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 8 minutes ago, Gopherbashi said: Time for Ottawa to call themselves a reserve club of Montreal. The Fury hasn’t really actively promoted the affiliation with the Impact. If they were now to be a “reserve” side for them, I’d cancel my season tickets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackjack15 Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 I know some of you couldn't care less about the Fury but i'm not one of them, yes their decision to play in the USL for 2019 was dissapointing and CONCACAF Did the right thing here i just hope they can join CPL in time or 2020. DrummingInMySleep 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackjack15 Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 3 hours ago, Complete Homer said: Whatever you think about the Fury for skipping out on CPL, they would be a loss to Canadian soccer 100% agree, especially considering how much canadian content they've played/given minutes to We all want to see them in the CPL, i do hope OSEG finally makes that decision now that they have their backs against the wall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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