Rheo Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 1 minute ago, Ansem said: Also added in the article according to Rejean Tremblay (his reputation is without question in Quebec in the sport world) Team rosters would be 80% Canadian Coaches and adminitsrators must be Canadians Fee to join the league is $3M Avg of 6k is necessary to break even My basic personal philosophy is any specific detail reported of league play/rules isn't official until the league confirms it. I assume he got that info from research and not being fed information. He also reported that Saskatoon is in and we haven't seen any indication that that's happening at all. I could be wrong but I'm guessing it's just an honest research error and not something concrete that's now just getting out there. Zem, johnyb and LAK 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheeta Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 Have to say 80% CANCON is really, really, high. A lot higher than the 51% I was expecting. Going to need room on the roster to bring in cheap off shore labour to boost quality. Doesn't leave a lot of room for that does it? Like the all Canadian coach/admin. johnyb and Keegan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpg_29 Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 27 minutes ago, Ansem said: Also added in the article according to Rejean Tremblay (his reputation is without question in Quebec in the sport world) Team rosters would be 80% Canadian Coaches and adminitsrators must be Canadians Fee to join the league is $3M Avg of 6k is necessary to break even All of that sounds not good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackTheBlizzard Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 7 minutes ago, Cheeta said: Have to say 80% CANCON is really, really, high. Sounds like you are allowed 5 imports. That's still about half the starters when there are no injuries. The one that concerns me more is the break even. A league is only as stable as its weakest links. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ansem Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 11 minutes ago, BringBackTheBlizzard said: Sounds like you are allowed 5 imports. That's still about half the starters when there are no injuries. The one that concerns me more is the break even. A league is only as stable as its weakest links. They will be fine if there's a form of revenue sharing like the NHL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAK Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 2 hours ago, Rheo said: My basic personal philosophy is any specific detail reported of league play/rules isn't official until the league confirms it. I assume he got that info from research and not being fed information. He also reported that Saskatoon is in and we haven't seen any indication that that's happening at all. I could be wrong but I'm guessing it's just an honest research error and not something concrete that's now just getting out there. That was my take on this too...unfortunately I suspect people will take this and run with it as the latest info and draw broad assumptions based on it. Rheo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rheo Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 1 minute ago, LAK said: That was my take on this too...unfortunately I suspect people will take this and run with it as the latest info and draw broad assumptions based on it. Oh it's already happening here and Twitter. What can you do lol LAK 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PJSweet Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 (edited) Are you guys aware that Saskatoon gets a mention in the Tremblay's QC article....Is this a slight blunder on Tremblay's part or he knows something that none of us are aware of and it has slipped accidentally. I do recall that CPL-Rumors did mention 2 months ago that Saskatoon is still in the running but needs to get their stadium deal settled with the city. Edited June 11, 2018 by PJSweet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rheo Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 My opinion is honest mistake through bad research. I don't take that or any of the numbers listed in the article seriously until the league confirms things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurt-MTL Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 Very happy to see some positive news out of Quebec, hopefully can get something going for 2020. Imagine a Montreal-Quebec City derby in Voyageurs Cup? nolando and Greatest Cockney Rip Off 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Impactsupporter Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 I am surprised that Saguneay and Sherbrooke are mentioned. I could see them in the PLSQ (Quebec league) however, not sure about CPL. Just a thought. CDNFootballer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rheo Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 2 minutes ago, Impactsupporter said: I am surprised that Saguneay and Sherbrooke are mentioned. Could be a mistake in the translation from Google but it sounded like Saguneay was approaching the league interested and Sherbrooke was a market they were targeting besides Quebec City Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ansem Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 10 minutes ago, Rheo said: Could be a mistake in the translation from Google but it sounded like Saguneay was approaching the league interested and Sherbrooke was a market they were targeting besides Quebec City That's correct. Saguenay is interested and the league wants Sherbrooke. Saguenay is more fit for CPL II I would think BenFisk'sBiggestFan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickC Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 I'm also assuming at least some of the information in the Quebec article is incorrect. But, I do disagree with all non-playing personnel having to be Canadian. I'd much rather it be, say, 4-out-of-6 of Pres, GM, Head Coach, Asst Coach, GK Coach, Fitness Coach must be Canadian. It's good to get ideas/methods from outside of our little area to help build the quality of our personnel and make them compete for jobs against a wider pool of applicants. It's somewhat the same idea as allowing some foreign players, other than the monetary aspect of keeping overall salary expenses down. I don't remember seeing in any CPL info anything about referees. This is a crucial aspect to the Canadian game that very much needs developing. Regional schools for officials, paid by CPL? Something must be done here, otherwise half of the game comments will be about the poor officiating. grande and deschamp86 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rheo Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 Unless the league says it's hiring 100% Canadian than I doubt that they are. As for refs it's all part of the "soccer economy" that they want to establish and it has been mentioned by them many times Bison44 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rheo Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 Good talk comparing issues and benefits CPL will have with what the Irish league had coppercanuck and HfxCeltic 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisinOrleans Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 1 hour ago, Impactsupporter said: I am surprised that Saguneay and Sherbrooke are mentioned. I could see them in the PLSQ (Quebec league) however, not sure about CPL. Chicoutimi-Saguenay has 160,000 people in its urban area, but has close to 220,000 if you include the catch basin around the city in Lac-Saint-Jean area (Roberval, Alma, Saint-Félicien, etc…). It may seem pedantic, but outside of the Pyramid de Ha! Ha! There is really nothing to do. A professional sporting team in the summer will be a welcome distraction, and the region does draw a boatload of tourists. If Saskatoon or Regina are being considered, there is really no reason to not include Saguenay. They’re roughly the same size, and this one has the added benefit of being close to larger Québec markets. 1 hour ago, Ansem said: That's correct. Saguenay is interested and the league wants Sherbrooke. Saguenay is more fit for CPL II I would think Both Sherbrooke and Saguenay are pretty large comparatively. Including their wider 1-hour catch basin population (which we do on this board for whatever reason) they’re the same size as Regina or Saskatoon. I don’t think getting 6,000 in either city for a 5-6 games would be a stretch. Sustaining that level of interest might take some work, however. Likewise, if we DO go with pro/rel, any city could be a CanPL I team or a CanPL II team. deschamp86 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rheo Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 Artificially designating any prospective city as second division is just stupid (no offense meant, not personal) Second division if it happens, isn't happening for years. And as @ChrisinOrleanssaid with pro/rel there is no division status based on size or population, just on performance and for when they get in. As a side, not sure if the stadium in Saguenay is in play but damn that's a nice complex when you include the wood arena http://www.woodinbuildings.com/en/projects/arena-and-service-building-universite-du-quebec-a-chicoutimi-uqac-arena-and-service-building-uqac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisinOrleans Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 13 minutes ago, Rheo said: Artificially designating any prospective city as second division is just stupid (no offense meant, not personal) Second division if it happens, isn't happening for years. And as @ChrisinOrleanssaid with pro/rel there is no division status based on size or population, just on performance and for when they get in. As a side, not sure if the stadium in Saguenay is in play but damn that's a nice complex when you include the wood arena http://www.woodinbuildings.com/en/projects/arena-and-service-building-universite-du-quebec-a-chicoutimi-uqac-arena-and-service-building-uqac The university is awesome. Great location too, not too far from the main drag and "downtown". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ansem Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 54 minutes ago, ChrisinOrleans said: Both Sherbrooke and Saguenay are pretty large comparatively. Including their wider 1-hour catch basin population (which we do on this board for whatever reason) they’re the same size as Regina or Saskatoon. I don’t think getting 6,000 in either city for a 5-6 games would be a stretch. Sustaining that level of interest might take some work, however. Likewise, if we DO go with pro/rel, any city could be a CanPL I team or a CanPL II team. Sherbrooke economy might be more desirable to the league than Saguenay. I know someone who sells Mutual Funds across Canada and she confirmed to me that there was lots of financial $$$ in Sherbrooke. That might be why Sherbrooke and Quebec are being targeted first Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDNFootballer Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 On 6/9/2018 at 7:49 PM, matty said: So the teams are franchises and the owners own the intellectual properties...so this is sorta like MLS. ? I'd say its pretty unlike MLS. MLS owners own a share in the league and have the right to operate a team. MLS operates under a single-entity structure in which teams, IP's, and player contracts are centrally owned by the league. MLS owners are basically owner operators of a business unit in their market, comparable to McDonalds outlets some would and have said. CPL it seems is following a more traditional model where the franchises/clubs are independent clubs, a model that is basically completely different from the single entity MLS. ted 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matty Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 (edited) 46 minutes ago, CDNFootballer said: ? I'd say its pretty unlike MLS. MLS owners own a share in the league and have the right to operate a team. MLS operates under a single-entity structure in which teams, IP's, and player contracts are centrally owned by the league. MLS owners are basically owner operators of a business unit in their market, comparable to McDonalds outlets some would and have said. CPL it seems is following a more traditional model where the franchises/clubs are independent clubs, a model that is basically completely different from the single entity MLS. Franchises where owners buy into the league and own the club IP. Until something official is released saying different or expanding that is closer to MLS than a European league. The fact the word being used is franchise hints at something closer to MLS as well. Edited June 12, 2018 by matty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegan Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 8 hours ago, Rheo said: Artificially designating any prospective city as second division is just stupid (no offense meant, not personal) Second division if it happens, isn't happening for years. And as @ChrisinOrleanssaid with pro/rel there is no division status based on size or population, just on performance and for when they get in. As a side, not sure if the stadium in Saguenay is in play but damn that's a nice complex when you include the wood arena http://www.woodinbuildings.com/en/projects/arena-and-service-building-universite-du-quebec-a-chicoutimi-uqac-arena-and-service-building-uqac Is that where they film that tv show 21 thunder? Also I think the Canadian content rumours are too high if true. I’ve never heard of a league where all personnel must be domestic.. it’s a bad idea to not bring outside influences to help us grow. Even in hockey which we excel at that would be dumb. Ditto to 80% Canadians!! Recipe for failure.. wouldn’t work in hockey and DEFINITELY won’t work for a Canadian soccer league that wants 6k fans a game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IAmPappy Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 8 hours ago, Keegan said: Is that where they film that tv show 21 thunder? Also I think the Canadian content rumours are too high if true. I’ve never heard of a league where all personnel must be domestic.. it’s a bad idea to not bring outside influences to help us grow. Even in hockey which we excel at that would be dumb. Ditto to 80% Canadians!! Recipe for failure.. wouldn’t work in hockey and DEFINITELY won’t work for a Canadian soccer league that wants 6k fans a game. The 80% thing is still speculation, but if true, it’s just a matter of perspective / spin. On a 25-man roster, that would mean up to 5 imports, and if they all start, that’s 45% foreign content. Sounding better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Complete Homer Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 (edited) 13 hours ago, matty said: The fact the word being used is franchise hints at something closer to MLS as well. Not really. The NHL has franchises but has a league structure much closer to traditional soccer leagues than MLS All franchises means is that the league is closed (ie stake holders vote on who is admitted into the pyramid, you don't get automatic entry by virtue of existing) and there may be an entrance fee involved. It doesn't imply single entity If CPL owners retain their own IP, that already indicates a step away from single entity. Edited June 12, 2018 by Complete Homer CDNFootballer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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