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4 minutes ago, Copes said:

 

Based on an image that just got deleted from the Supporter's FB group (which appeared to be a screencap of the website) you might actually have nailed it... 

Ohoh, at least we know what one of the debates on here will be now until next week

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Bobby McMahon from Forbes has been teasing the DAZN annoucement for a couple of hours on Twitter and says no one has guessed it yet (including CPL)  but says it's big

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14 minutes ago, Rheo said:

Bobby McMahon from Forbes has been teasing the DAZN annoucement for a couple of hours on Twitter and says no one has guessed it yet (including CPL)  but says it's big

I find 'big' is always relative when it comes to these things.

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20 minutes ago, mpg_29 said:

I find 'big' is always relative when it comes to these things.

Well it's full rights to Champions League and Europa so in my opinion it counts as "big"  Damn that's a game changer with them off cable.  Big hole for TSN to fill now... (let the speculation begin lol)

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42 minutes ago, Rheo said:

Well it's full rights to Champions League and Europa so in my opinion it counts as "big"  Damn that's a game changer with them off cable.  Big hole for TSN to fill now... (let the speculation begin lol)

Maybe.  But more likely TSN buys games from them, while DAZN retains the right of first choice games.  It's like when The Score bought the EPL rights and then sold games back to TSN and Sportsnet.

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1 hour ago, yellowsweatygorilla said:

So, it's not HFX right?

Unless I fell for an incredible quality troll, its 100% 'HFX Wanderers Football Club' with 'HFX Wanderers' on the crest.

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Just now, m-g-williams said:

Do you have a screenshot? The link to the photo doesn't seem to work for me.

I snagged it from earlier. On my phone so cant post but when im home from my men's league game tonight ill PM you of its not already posted

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Just now, Copes said:

I snagged it from earlier. On my phone so cant post but when im home from my men's league game tonight ill PM you of its not already posted

Perfect, thanks! It looks like The CanPL Hub deleted the Tweet with the link/image, so I can't open it. 

(On an unrelated note, *still* waiting for "CanPL" to die and for the league to just use "CPL" . . . )

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7 hours ago, Kent said:

Here is what he said. "Teams rise or fall based on their performance – and while it would take at minimum the better part of two decades for a club to rise from the lowest levels to the top tier (the English Premier League) it is theoretically possible."

So first off, "better part of two decades" is less than 2 decades, but that's not that important. He was talking specifically about the English system and the English examples that have been brought up are Salford City and FC United of Manchester. If wikipedia is correct, Salford City was founded in 1940 and still hasn't come close to the Premier League, and FC United was founded 13 years ago and are still only in the 6th tier.

So the guy writing the article hasn't been proven wrong from any examples given here. I think it would be a lot easier to promote 2 or 3 times in a row at the lower levels than it would be at the higher levels. And certainly promoting 8, 9, or 10 times in a row would be exponentially more difficult than 3 or 4 times in a row.

Gee, Kent, I appreciate the reading comprehension. But since he does not cite real examples, he talks in the conditional. And as a condition, in any country in the world if you started in the last tier, you could rise from bottom to top in one year less than there are tiers. That is the fact, the rest is simply erroneous logic. 

But even if you could cite a case of it happening, it would not assist the conditional principle in any way, the possibility would still exist as correct, and in England you'd be talking about it being possible in 9 years.

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9 minutes ago, BuzzAndSting said:

From the deleted FB post. If this is the crest it’s easily the weakest of the 3. A big let down in my opinion.

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I don't know - it's got clear ties to the city's nautical history, the shape is an homage to the Citadel where the grounds are, and the bridge brings Dartmouth into the fold.  Works for me.

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4 hours ago, Copes said:

Hey, so, I'm the author of the article. Kind of crazy my LinkedIn blog post is getting the attention it has - mostly since Bierne shared it, (and invited me to grab a beer!) but I'm all for it. 

The two decades piece came from Wikipedia, as I am not familiar with much in the English system beyond the top two or three tiers. The exact quote is: "The system has a hierarchical format with promotion and relegation between leagues at different levels, allowing even the smallest club the theoretical possibility of ultimately rising to the very top of the system, although in practice it would take a team at the bottom levels at least two decades of consistently finishing at or near the top of each successive league to reach the top level, and even then additional restrictions, particularly in regard to stadium facilities, would then come into effect at the highest levels that could prevent a club from being allowed access to the top levels."

Link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_football_league_system

I'm not a sports journalist or anything, and it was meant to be a pretty basic introduction for people who don't know much about soccer or CPL. I live in St. John's, my business focuses on real estate investment utilizing a community-building strategy, and so for my clients and people who read my blog posts on my website (which I cross-post to LinkedIn for exposure) I was simply trying to make the case that CPL will be a great marketing tool for small cities, and explain why. My blog is entirely utilized for content marketing, and selling my ideas. As a real restate and urban planning guy, I'm particularly interested in what trends and businesses might pop up near stadiums. Honestly though, I just got super excited after the York announcement and decided to use it as an excuse to talk about CPL at work! Haha. 

First, to comment, there is a bit of talk about St. John's in the Victoria thread I see, if you want to look.

I think you are right that small town or city could benefit in a way that the franchise system simply does not allow. It is clear that they could market themselves citing a sports team, use fans or parades as images of city pride, as well as raise the overall image of the city in the national or even international press. A lot of people here know the names of cities in Norway or Slovenia because we follow leagues with Canadians, or even Europa League.

You are also right that stadiums can have an effect on neighbourhoods and communities, they are added value for a city. As not having minimum facilities could be seen as a mark against a town (who has not cared to make public investments, as with not having a library, a museum, proper schools, parks, facilitate public market areas, other sports facilities). From what we are speculating on with regards to the Port City/Fraser Valley CPL bid, if they opt for Bridgeview it would be a clear attempt by Surrey to respond to longstanding complaints from an area where working class residential is under pressure from industrial sprawl, so that residents feel somewhat neglected by the city. A stadium, and proper concern for quality services in the area, for making clearer separations with logistic lots and light industry, would all be part of a renewal project, however viable or sincere.

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4 minutes ago, dyslexic nam said:

I don't know - it's got clear ties to the city's nautical history, the shape is an homage to the Citadel where the grounds are, and the bridge brings Bedford into the fold.  Works for me.

I'm with you. That's the crest I saw, and I actually sort of like it. All of it ties to Halifax for me, in my mind. The only thing I dislike is the "HFX" part. In no way a deal breaker for me, but I don't know why we have to eliminate 4 letters from the city's name in the team name. It's not like "Halifax" is a mouthful.

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11 minutes ago, BuzzAndSting said:

From the deleted FB post. If this is the crest it’s easily the weakest of the 3. A big let down in my opinion.

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I don't mind it, though I think it's a touch too busy with the anchor at the bottom and wish they dropped the extra text below the name. I can also deal with HFX in the badge, but please please please not making that the official name. 

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5 minutes ago, Unnamed Trialist said:

First, to comment, there is a bit of talk about St. John's in the Victoria thread I see, if you want to look.

I think you are right that small town or city could benefit in a way that the franchise system simply does not allow. It is clear that they could market themselves citing a sports team, use fans or parades as images of city pride, as well as raise the overall image of the city in the national or even international press. A lot of people here know the names of cities in Norway or Slovenia because we follow leagues with Canadians, or even Europa League.

You are also right that stadiums can have an effect on neighbourhoods and communities, they are added value for a city. As not having minimum facilities could be seen as a mark against a town (who has not cared to make public investments, as with not having a library, a museum, proper schools, parks, facilitate public market areas, other sports facilities). From what we are speculating on with regards to the Port City/Fraser Valley CPL bid, if they opt for Bridgeview it would be a clear attempt by Surrey to respond to longstanding complaints from an area where working class residential is under pressure from industrial sprawl, so that residents feel somewhat neglected by the city. A stadium, and proper concern for quality services in the area, for making clearer separations with logistic lots and light industry, would all be part of a renewal project, however viable or sincere.

Couldn't agree more with your comments! Also, I'll check out the Victoria thread!

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1 minute ago, yellowsweatygorilla said:

but please please please not making that the official name. 

Based on the larger image of the full website (which isn't in that image) it looks like HFX is the official name. At least, that is how they spell it out in the paragraph in the original image. 

"HFX Wanderers Football Club"

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20 minutes ago, BuzzAndSting said:

From the deleted FB post. If this is the crest it’s easily the weakest of the 3. A big let down in my opinion.

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In principle it is overly detailed, but it is clear nonethess.

It allows you to take the outside 8-point geometry and use that, without anything inside, a solid colour, or a two or three tone. You could also make a variation with the name across the middle, light blue solid below, dark blue above, eliminating waves and the bridge structure. Basically, it is something you can work with even though as is it is trying to do too much by adding excess symbols, like trying to appeal to all these existing references (the anchor for example).

As for the name, I think HFX is smart. It is like people who refer to cities in Canada by their airport initials, it is something folks like to do and work and play with. It also works with another "X" we have already seen, the Generation IX at York. You could argue it is Halifax Football with the X what ever you make of it. It also solves an important problem: Wanderers is a long name, you have to let it be large and play a bigger part in the name and crest, and this allows it visually (the font is actually larger because of it).

If they take it not a sacrosanct but as raw material for variations, it'll work.

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Can anyone read the lines under HFX Wanderers? It looks to me like it might be something in Gaelic, but I can't quite tell. Guessing it's something along the lines of "one club, one city, one game"? 

Edit: Hard to make out, but I'm pretty sure it says "An Cala, An Dachaigh, An T-Anam" - "The Harbour, The Home, The Soul". 

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7 minutes ago, m-g-williams said:

Can anyone read the lines under HFX Wanderers? It looks to me like it might be something in Gaelic, but I can't quite tell. Guessing it's something along the lines of "one club, one city, one game"? 

I think its: "Our port, our home, our soul"

If it's that, it's rather lovely, good for them. 

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1 minute ago, Unnamed Trialist said:

I think its: "Our port, our home, our soul"

If it's that, it's rather lovely, good for them. 

Looks like our Gaelic sleuthing skills are about equal. ?

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