Cheeta Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 Interesting. Could argue the discrimination in either direction, younger/older, if it really does happen and I have my doubts that is even possible. Are CPL rules generous enough (for want of a better phrase) that should a non-Canadian residing in Canada still quality as a domestic player under certain circumstances? Refugee status, perm. residency, that sort of thing. That would be the one portion of the population that I would worry for if the decision was made to put up age based restrictions. If the CPL wants to throw up roadblock against internatiional players I don't think new, or soon to be new Canadians, are the intentional target of those sorts of rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fil Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 Just to point out, HFX Wanderers has been criticized for having so many internationals. But it hasn't helped at all, they are last place. Pacific FC has done better even though they have relied heavily on young Canadians. nolando and Stouffvillain 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fil Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 (edited) overall table Cavalry 62 points Forge 56 York 34 FC Edmonton 32 Pacific FC 31 Valour 28 HFX Wanderers 28 Edited October 20, 2019 by fil Aird25 and Stouffvillain 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Initial B Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 (edited) There are two wins separating 3rd from 7th. I think that's a pretty balanced league. No surprise that Cavalry and Forge are a cut above the rest as they have the owners with the deepest pockets. I think they're just as good as the Fury, who I'd love to see join the league in a couple of years. The baseline has been set and now we can start tracking metrics on a season per season basis. Edited October 20, 2019 by Initial B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 I'm interested to see if any of the 5 other teams can surpass Cavalry and Forge. SadOnMondays 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zem Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 24 minutes ago, Lofty said: You have Valour and HFX backwards. Valour have a goal difference of minus 22 to HFX's minus 14. The first tiebreaker is total wins, not goal difference Lofty and ted 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzie_the_parrot Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 (edited) On 10/18/2019 at 4:38 AM, Cheeta said: Interesting. Could argue the discrimination in either direction, younger/older, if it really does happen and I have my doubts that is even possible. Are CPL rules generous enough (for want of a better phrase) that should a non-Canadian residing in Canada still quality as a domestic player under certain circumstances? Refugee status, perm. residency, that sort of thing... The domestic player category covers everybody with citizenship or PR and refugee status as they are all part of the Canadian workforce regardless of what national team they may be aligned with. Foreign players are anybody who needs a temporary work visa so it's a lot easier to add an age requirement in that context. Edited October 20, 2019 by Ozzie_the_parrot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aird25 Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, narduch said: I'm interested to see if any of the 5 other teams can surpass Cavalry and Forge. Pacific are invincible under Merriman Edited October 20, 2019 by Aird25 ted, Rintaran, grasshopper1917 and 2 others 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SadOnMondays Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 2 hours ago, narduch said: I'm interested to see if any of the 5 other teams can surpass Cavalry and Forge. Me too. York 9 looks like the have the most potential. I'm wondering if Cavalry and Forge will end up losing some players? I think that could potentially level the playing field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baulderdash77 Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 1 hour ago, SadOnMondays said: Me too. York 9 looks like the have the most potential. I'm wondering if Cavalry and Forge will end up losing some players? I think that could potentially level the playing field. Borges is rumoured to have opportunities in the January transfer window. He’s leading the league in goals and co leading in assists. Undoubtedly losing him would be difficult for Forge to replace and help bring them back to the pack. I was at the TFC game last night (thrilling game, most fun I’ve had at a TFC game) and I kept thinking they would be much better with Borges on the wing. SadOnMondays 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SadOnMondays Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 1 hour ago, baulderdash77 said: Borges is rumoured to have opportunities in the January transfer window. He’s leading the league in goals and co leading in assists. Undoubtedly losing him would be difficult for Forge to replace and help bring them back to the pack. I was at the TFC game last night (thrilling game, most fun I’ve had at a TFC game) and I kept thinking they would be much better with Borges on the wing. I was actually watching the game, and a few other TFC games throughout the year, and kind of wondered how Borges would fit in, I go back and forth about it. I sometimes feel he'd be a bit of a square peg and that TFC's wingers seem to be more about speed and "blind" crossing, whereas I feel Borges is a little more methodical and skilled. I think the difficulty Borges will face with another team is that he won't be the focus of the attack with another team and won't be given the flexibility he's given with the Forge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baulderdash77 Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 Borges gets a lot of his goals drifting in when the balls on the other side (also penalties). The speed and blind crossing was driving me nuts last night because they lost possession so much. 3 times Benezet crosses into an area with no TFC players and 1 or 2 DC players. Endoh similarly seemed to run down the field mindlessly and not look up until else was in trouble. Borges does lots of runs, but I could easily see him linking up back and forth with with the CM or DB down the side. SadOnMondays 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kent Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 I noticed a while back that there seemed to be more scoring in the Fall season than the Spring season. I decided to wait for the end of the Fall season to check the numbers. This also relates to what Clanachan was saying in that recent article that I think was posted in the new teams thread, an article by someone in Halifax I believe, where he talked about trying to raise the number of goals scored in the league. Spring season 2.14 goals per game Fall season 2.75 goals per game Combined 2.53 goals per game For a point of reference, since we love to compare ourselves with Americans, MLS this season was 3.04 goals per game. That's a nice bump up from Spring to Fall. Anecdotally I found the Fall season to have more entertaining games than Spring, but maybe that has more to do with my team (York 9) being 6th in the Spring and 3rd in the Fall. cronaldo7, Stouffvillain, Bison44 and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bison44 Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 9 minutes ago, Kent said: That's a nice bump up from Spring to Fall. Anecdotally I found the Fall season to have more entertaining games than Spring, but maybe that has more to do with my team (York 9) being 6th in the Spring and 3rd in the Fall. I would agree, strictly my opinion but it did seem like there was more flow to the games I saw. Which should be expected, but its still nice to see. There werent many games that were painful to sit through, except when you are losing 8-0. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_M Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 Unfortunately Clanachan still doesnt get it..following the european or fifa model..give me a break red card 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aird25 Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 7 minutes ago, Big_M said: Unfortunately Clanachan still doesnt get it..following the european or fifa model..give me a break What doesn’t he get? ted and Lofty 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_M Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheeta Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 1 hour ago, Big_M said: Unfortunately Clanachan still doesnt get it..following the european or fifa model..give me a break Funny. I think he just about "gets it" spot on. red card, Lofty, kmacphee and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stouffvillain Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 The real question is what is with Clanachan's zip up sweater with collared shirt and a sports coat? baulderdash77, Bison44, Ansem and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzie_the_parrot Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 How on earth does he think they are following a European or FIFA model when they have an apertura and a clausura season and there is no relegation? How can he possibly think they do not have playoffs when they are forcing the Cavalry to play the Forge home and away even though they already won both seasons? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboAl Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 1 hour ago, Ozzie_the_parrot said: How on earth does he think they are following a European or FIFA model when they have an apertura and a clausura season and there is no relegation? How can he possibly think they do not have playoffs when they are forcing the Cavalry to play the Forge home and away even though they already won both seasons? I'm not one of those to have a beef with you but on this one, I'll call you out and say you're being a bit petty. Last time I checked Mexico & Argentina were in FIFA and they have an apertura and clausura. I think it's okay to discuss the merits of no playoffs and a split season, but this has been season one and this is the North American market. Discuss that instead and not the source of the discussion. BuzzAndSting, Bbeto and Ansem 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzie_the_parrot Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 (edited) The part that's relevant to FIFA is the no relegation bit. Even if they reach 16 they only appear to be talking about splitting into two divisions rather than having promotion from below as is the normal way of doing things under FIFA. https://medium.com/@terryblaw/does-u-s-soccers-league-set-up-violate-fifa-rules-ceec15f54244 ...This system is not a mere gimmick. Indeed, FIFA has enshrined promotion and relegation in its rules. That is, FIFA statutes mandate that “entitlement to take part in a domestic championship shall” be determined by promotion or relegation based on “sporting merit.” And soccer’s world body has defended the concept with vigor, lauding it as the “very essence of football.”... Edited October 23, 2019 by Ozzie_the_parrot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ansem Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 13 minutes ago, Ozzie_the_parrot said: Even if they reach 16 they only appear to be talking about splitting into two divisions rather than having promotion from below as is the normal way of doing things under FIFA. You're truly acting in bad faith. How many times does CPL needs to say it wants pro/rel for you to understand and stop beating at dead horse? Bbeto and Ivanovski94 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ted Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 12 hours ago, Lofty said: 6. Play-offs are effectively "cup football". So have a knock out competition IN ADDITION to the league and you get the best of both worlds! Crown your league champions based on points and ALSO have a Cup Final to end the season. Two trophies would be GOOD! Zem, Bbeto and Nello 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzie_the_parrot Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Ansem said: You're truly acting in bad faith.... End of conversation. Learn some manners if you want to get a reply. Edited October 23, 2019 by Ozzie_the_parrot deschamp86 and BuzzAndSting 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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