Ansem Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 42 minutes ago, Mikmacdo said: Dunn looked better than zator, didic so I would put him with the senior team. I dont think the Olympics will even happen. Zator and Didic have a much larger sample than Dunn and have both already been called up to the National team. The U23 team is were he belongs. I'm high on Dunn but Jean-Baptiste had a lot to do with his performance. Dunn needs to prove in can do this consistently and 7 games isn't a big enough sample Cblake, Cheeta, toontownman and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 Yep still early for Dunn. U23 is perfect. For the U23. I don't know if Cornelius would be involved now, Miller probably would. Sturing might if he can hopefully land somewhere. Mekideche, Kennedy, Halbouni, and Häkkinen might be added too. Anyone know whats happened with Martin Amuz? Is he injured? Looks like he hasn't played any of August/Septembers games Already interesting to look at the list below. There are names on there that I can't see being on there next time. https://mcusercontent.com/78d3589fb61466b549ff752e5/files/92e7a32f-796e-42b9-af2b-f0d7166d4246/20_MOQ_Rosters_Provisional_Lists.pdf Cblake 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shorty Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 3 hours ago, toontownman said: Already interesting to look at the list below. There are names on there that I can't see being on there next time. Yeah, sadly as a PFC fan I have to agree with you. Campbell and Verhoeven at least have played (and not played) themselves out of contention, even despite Terran’s nice consolation goal. On the other hand, you can make a bunch of nice starting 11s from this list, even without the players that might be up with the senior team, like Cornelius and others. How nice is that? toontownman and Cblake 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shway Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 6 hours ago, toontownman said: Already interesting to look at the list below. There are names on there that I can't see being on there next time. https://mcusercontent.com/78d3589fb61466b549ff752e5/files/92e7a32f-796e-42b9-af2b-f0d7166d4246/20_MOQ_Rosters_Provisional_Lists.pdf That's literally the blessing in disguise for some of the guys. Especially the ones who weren't on it (Farsi). It's just a nightmare from Mauro's aspect that he'll have to pick 20 guys based on nothing. No camps, no friendlies, no nothing. For me the U23 is more exciting to see who will be called up, because it seems like we have soooooo many options in comparison to previous years which had a bunch of college guys. But yea....Cornelius definitely shouldn't be there. As he's looking like our best CB currently. Cblake, toontownman and Ivan 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheeta Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 9 hours ago, Ansem said: Zator and Didic have a much larger sample than Dunn and have both already been called up to the National team. The U23 team is were he belongs. I'm high on Dunn but Jean-Baptiste had a lot to do with his performance. Dunn needs to prove in can do this consistently and 7 games isn't a big enough sample There was a healthy dosage of understanding in that partnership (a lot of the same I'd say) and that isn't always transferable. That being said I'll be following the man's development, closer than I have for any Canadian defender for some time. There's a head on those shoulders. Cblake, BrennanFan and Trois Reds 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearcatSA Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 Camped on the bench last night, with Veleselinovic brought in after Rose's red card. I have to infer that he is not an MDS favourite, for whatever reason. Cblake 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, BearcatSA said: Camped on the bench last night, with Veleselinovic brought in after Rose's red card. I have to infer that he is not an MDS favourite, for whatever reason. I think it is just rotation. Cornelius just had a stretch where he played a lot of minutes and Veleselinovic was left on the bench. Before that it was the reverse. Both players are young and need to develop, so they are sort of taking turns. Each is typically paired with a veteran (Rose or Godoy). I do not recall many instances when they both played together. Edited October 8, 2020 by Obinna Cblake and Ivan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearcatSA Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 CBs shouldn't need as much rotation as other positions. Building a consistent chemistry with your CB partner is a huge key for success in that position. Cblake, Obinna, Nate3322 and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 42 minutes ago, BearcatSA said: CBs shouldn't need as much rotation as other positions. Building a consistent chemistry with your CB partner is a huge key for success in that position. Part of it may also be figuring out what combinations work best. Godoy was out for a big stretch at the beginning and Veleselinovic is new to the club. Once you eventually find the best combination you want to roll with it and build consistency. The other factor is the compacted schedule. That is reason for rotation, even for CBs who are not typically rotated as much. Cblake 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearcatSA Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 1 hour ago, Obinna said: Part of it may also be figuring out what combinations work best. Godoy was out for a big stretch at the beginning and Veleselinovic is new to the club. Once you eventually find the best combination you want to roll with it and build consistency. The other factor is the compacted schedule. That is reason for rotation, even for CBs who are not typically rotated as much. He gets forced rotation this week but my intuition is that if both Rose and Godoy were available for Saturday, they would have been the first choice pairing. Every match is now a playoff game for MDS and he needs to go with what he believes is his best available pairing. Cblake 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 (edited) 14 minutes ago, BearcatSA said: He gets forced rotation this week but my intuition is that if both Rose and Godoy were available for Saturday, they would have been the first choice pairing. Every match is now a playoff game for MDS and he needs to go with what he believes is his best available pairing. Could very well be. I am not sold that MDS considers Cornelius first choice. I am not even sure I consider him first choice, to be honest. If I am being unbiased I think Veleselinovic is just a touch ahead of him right now. However, I do think he can come in and do his job from the start. He has done exactly that as of late. Has played very well indeed. I think you are partly right. I suspect Rose-Godoy is his preference in an important game (which they all are at this stage), but it is not as if the other two are far behind. I think he has 4 adequate options with no standouts, and Vancouver badly needs a standout back there. Contrast that to Toronto, who have 2 CBs who are clearly ahead of the 3rd (Ciman) and 4th (Zavaletta) options. There is a clear separation and that is reflected in the differences in playing time. And if there is little to choose between your 4 options, you are going to be more tempted to rotate, which is what we have seen in Vancouver. Just another way to look at the rotation thing... Edited October 8, 2020 by Obinna BearcatSA and Cblake 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stryker911 Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 With both Godoy and Rose seeing reds last game. Cornelius will get another start whether MDS wants to or not. Cblake 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 4 hours ago, Stryker911 said: With both Godoy and Rose seeing reds last game. Cornelius will get another start whether MDS wants to or not. I wouldn't be surprised if Godoy's red got overturned. It looked very soft to me, and if I was the Whitecaps I'd be appealing it. Cblake, Obinna, Nate3322 and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearcatSA Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 3 minutes ago, RS said: I wouldn't be surprised if Godoy's red got overturned. It looked very soft to me, and if I was the Whitecaps I'd be appealing it. No doubt that the club is challenging it. Cblake 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikmacdo Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 6 hours ago, Obinna said: Could very well be. I am not sold that MDS considers Cornelius first choice. I am not even sure I consider him first choice, to be honest. If I am being unbiased I think Veleselinovic is just a touch ahead of him right now. However, I do think he can come in and do his job from the start. He has done exactly that as of late. Has played very well indeed. I think you are partly right. I suspect Rose-Godoy is his preference in an important game (which they all are at this stage), but it is not as if the other two are far behind. I think he has 4 adequate options with no standouts, and Vancouver badly needs a standout back there. Contrast that to Toronto, who have 2 CBs who are clearly ahead of the 3rd (Ciman) and 4th (Zavaletta) options. There is a clear separation and that is reflected in the differences in playing time. And if there is little to choose between your 4 options, you are going to be more tempted to rotate, which is what we have seen in Vancouver. Just another way to look at the rotation thing... I saw some stats for all four cb's on the Whitecaps and Cornelius was third behind rose and Godoy. Veleselinovic was by far the worst. Cblake 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearcatSA Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 22 hours ago, BearcatSA said: No doubt that the club is challenging it. Now rescinded, making Godoy available to start on Saturday night, likely alongside Cornelius. Cblake 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearcatSA Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 Barring injury or suspension, I sense that the newly signed Veselinovic and Godoy will be the CB partnership for this final stretch run and to begin next season. toontownman, Mikmacdo, Cblake and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate3322 Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 Well Cornelius was left unprotected by the caps ahead of the expansion draw. Shows how little MDS values him imo. Mikmacdo, Cblake, toontownman and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikmacdo Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 Just now, Nate3322 said: Well Cornelius was left unprotected by the caps ahead of the expansion draw. Shows how little MDS values him imo. that and the fact that hes canadian make it unlikely someone would draft him. toontownman, Cblake and Dominic94 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 ^^^ is likely the gamble they are taking. Canadian but not an MLS star standout. Most teams likely wouldnt take him. It is probably tactical. dyslexic nam, Obinna, johnyb and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ansem Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 Whoever gives him the most minutes is what matters, not that he plays on Canadian soil but start half the time Cblake 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stryker911 Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 Actually would be a good pickup for an expansion team. Kamal Miller also would be a useful peice for a new team. The Real Marc, Cblake, Obinna and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikmacdo Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 TFC should get Austin to take Miller and trade for him. Cblake 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominic94 Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 45 minutes ago, Stryker911 said: Actually would be a good pickup for an expansion team. Kamal Miller also would be a useful peice for a new team. I think it would be dumb of Austin not to draft him, and it would surprise a few. They’re pundits but a few of the MLS guys like him, so I think he gets taken. Cornelius is an international for American teams, but tbh he’s a young player who could probably start and should. Cblake 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 1 hour ago, Mikmacdo said: TFC should get Austin to take Miller and trade for him. Miller would actually be a great fit for Toronto. Bdog, Corazon and Cblake 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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