Canadian Dual Nationals 2.0 Edition, Chase for the 5 stars

[CanadaFan123]

8 minutes ago, Strait Red said:

Well this is interesting, maybe we aren’t out of the Tomori sweepstakes after all.

https://www.sportsnet.ca/soccer/fifa-shapes-new-rule-help-players-switch-national-team/sn-amp/?__twitter_impression=true

"The new wording would let players switch eligibility if they played a maximum of three times for the first national team — including tournament qualifying games — before they turned 21, and at least three years earlier."

Hate to be the bearer of bad news but this wouldn't help us since Tomori played for England after he turned 21.

[Corazon]

9 minutes ago, Strait Red said:

Well this is interesting, maybe we aren’t out of the Tomori sweepstakes after all.

https://www.sportsnet.ca/soccer/fifa-shapes-new-rule-help-players-switch-national-team/sn-amp/?__twitter_impression=true

Would take Tomori back in a heartbeat.

[Shway]

1 minute ago, CanadaFan123 said:

"The new wording would let players switch eligibility if they played a maximum of three times for the first national team — including tournament qualifying games — before they turned 21, and at least three years earlier."

Hate to be the bearer of bad news but this wouldn't help us since Tomori played for England after he turned 21.

But he might have a “case” to revert back to Canada since he only played 3 minutes.

This rule change would definitely favour him specifically.

[SpursFlu]

I hope they don't push this rule too far in the future or you run the risk of silly season taking over. This current proposal i can live with

[Shway]

@SpursFlu yea the line definitely has to be drawn. For instance, what happens when a player starts turning down call ups because he’s at the max in hope of switching to another country. 
I think of our dual nationals in this case who could use their second picks to get their firsts attention.

[SpursFlu]

You want to talk corruption. Wait until you see the payola under the table to get players to switch countries. I wonder how many Nike China Neymar jerseys one could sell or USA Mbappe shirts. Not saying those players are corrupt im saying that system could allow for some funny business and agents are the ones to watch

Edited August 19, 2020 by SpursFlu

[SthMelbRed]

4 hours ago, SpursFlu said:

You want to talk corruption. Wait until you see the payola under the table to get players to switch countries. I wonder how many Nike China Neymar jerseys one could sell or USA Mbappe shirts. Not saying those players are corrupt im saying that system could allow for some funny business and agents are the ones to watch

It's like you didn't even read what is being proposed.

[SthMelbRed]

In more updating of eligibility rules, FIFA wants to clarify how long players must live in a country before they can play for its teams.

 

The proposal aims to help players who as children moved with their families to a new country for non-soccer reasons.

 

 

Three years residency would be required if a player moved before the age of 10, and five years residency if the move was aged 10 to 18.

 

FIFA’s existing rule already requires a five-year residency from the age of 18 if a player wants to acquire a new national eligibility.

 

That allowed Brazil-born forwards Elkeson and Aloisio to switch to the current China team after they were naturalized as citizens.

This bit might be good for us, in future.

 

[SpursFlu]

45 minutes ago, SthMelbRed said:

It's like you didn't even read what is being proposed.

no I said what's being proposed is fine. I said if they stretch it too far in the future it could become a farce. 

[SpursFlu]

5 hours ago, SpursFlu said:

I hope they don't push this rule too far in the future or you run the risk of silly season taking over. This current proposal i can live with

for the record

something about not reading

[Shway]

But then you made Neymar China, and Mbappe USA comment, when the rule change would not allow this. It's actually impossible to manipulate it in this way when the rule change states that it doesn't apply to those who have played in a FIFA Final competition......

Edited August 19, 2020 by Shway

[SpursFlu]

34 minutes ago, Shway said:

But then you made Neymar China, and Mbappe USA comment, when the rule change would not allow this. It's actually impossible to manipulate it in this way when the rule change states that it doesn't apply to those who have played in a FIFA Final competition......

My friend.. im saying if the rule continued to evolve over the years. So if the rules continued to loosen. You know in the FUTURE.. let's all get in to our imagination station for a second 

Edited August 19, 2020 by SpursFlu

[Yoginess]

14 minutes ago, SpursFlu said:

My friend.. im saying if the rule continued to evolve over the years. So if the rules continued to loosen. You know in the FUTURE.. let's all get in to our imagination station for a second 

slippery slope is a fallacy. I have to disagree with you on this one. 

[SpursFlu]

1 minute ago, Yoginess said:

slippery slope is a fallacy. I have to disagree with you on this one. 

You scream I scream we all scream for ice cream. I have to disagree with you on this one.

[An Observer]

Personally, I like this but I would raise the age to 23 or 24 from 21 (how many players play for their national team before 21....not many). 

[SpecialK]

Just imagine if we could get Cristante and Tomori back omg 😳 

[Ruffian]

18 hours ago, Yoginess said:

slippery slope is a fallacy. I have to disagree with you on this one. 

It is only a fallacy if the claim is we would end up in that situation for sure. @SpursFlu is only saying he hopes the worst situation does not occur. I am not sure how people can argue with that line of thought.

Edited August 20, 2020 by Ruffian

[dyslexic nam]

2 hours ago, SpecialK said:

Just imagine if we could get Cristante and Tomori back omg 😳 

The only thing I hate about this rule is that we will continue clinging to ever-slimmer hopes that we may get people to commit after they have already clearly rejected us.  

Edited August 20, 2020 by dyslexic nam

[Kent]

On the flip side, who have we capped that we could lose with this rule?

[Blackdude]

Just now, Kent said:

On the flip side, who have we capped that we could lose with this rule?

Diamond Simpson is the only name I can come up with. 

[Weng]

10 minutes ago, Blackdude said:

Diamond Simpson is the only name I can come up with. 

A basketball player?

Nevermind.  I found Who you were referring to.

Edited August 20, 2020 by Weng

[Blackdude]

Look, I don't think that there are many people, unless Busti can play for another national team that is below our level. It's not like we've used that captie way on men because they were good enough to get multiple caps after that. I think that there are more women that would be interested with this rule then men. I can't think of any men we've captied that would fit the rules. We have women who do, because they have dual-nationality, got a go with the senior team, but disappeared. 

[Strait Red]

Found this tweet from Tony Bruneau. Tony, if you are a member I apologize for stealing your research.

A partial list of who could play for Canada under the new rules.

 

[Norrin Radd]

8 minutes ago, Strait Red said:

A partial list of who could play for Canada under the new rules.

I think some of these players are eligible to switch under the current rules never mind the new ones. Fernandes has never played in official competition for Portugal at the senior level.

Edited August 20, 2020 by Norrin Radd

[Norrin Radd]

I guess Tabla would be eligible to switch under the new proposal. I still haven't given up hope for him reaching his potential.