Shway Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 (edited) "To make sure Canada reaches not just the next level - but the highest level, and I'm extremely excited that I was chosen to do this job and do this task, I've prepared all my life for this job, and I will not disappoint." - Octavio Zambrano March 17, 2017 It's been a long, long time coming but I know, change gon' come. ....and if there isn't change in the Gold Cup, and by change I mean the attacking football we all expect to see...then I don't want to see him in August. Edited March 17, 2017 by Jahinho Guerro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Levi Oakey Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 8 minutes ago, red card said: Comments of note from presser so far: Zambrano on #CPL: It is of the utmost important that we have our own league. Says bonafide but peripheral CAN players need a place to play. Zambrano: Sr. team obviously priority but need to make sure mastery of the ball, tactics are endorsed at grassroots levels Zambrano: Selection process, monitoring players important. Making sure they're getting good minutes with clubs. Happy w #canMNT's base ATM. Montagliani: "He has been in some challenging environments but his most challenging is Canada. To shed the negative mindset into a positive" Reading up on him, he apparently helped the MetroStars setup their academy, a first at the time in MLS. He started in youth soccer. I think he will definitely lead from the top in regards to grassroots soccer as well as coaching the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpg75 Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 6 minutes ago, Offside said: Hope he picks the right kids now that belong on the youth team Canada teams and not all about tfc compared to all other academies Can you elaborate on this? Perhaps cite some specific examples? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCM Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 (edited) He's got me excited. But have to say I've been down this road (many times) before... Edited March 17, 2017 by BCM Levi Oakey 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GimliJetsMan Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 Acceptable. Alex D 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shway Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 15 minutes ago, red card said: Comments of note from presser so far: Zambrano on #CPL: It is of the utmost important that we have our own league. Says bonafide but peripheral CAN players need a place to play. I'm tired of every coach saying this. I get it, we get, everyone gets it- it's needed, its the obvious thing to say now. It shouldn't be the determination of where we can be successful right now. Because even if the CPL is announced for 2019, our next manager 5-6 years time from now will maybe be able to reap the benefits of such league. So is that when everything will be all sexy for Canada? I don't know... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kent Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 (edited) 52 minutes ago, Obinna said: Done deal now as reported by sportsnet. Wonder if he will coach the Scotland friendly? From the Canada Soccer article on him. http://canadasoccer.com/canada-soccer-introduces-new-head-coach-octavio-zambrano-to-lead-the-men-s-national-team-program-p160654 "Zambrano will travel to Scotland this week ahead of Canada’s Men’s International Friendly on 22 March. He will assume coaching duties in Qatar at the U-23 tournament where Canada will face both Uzbekistan (25 March) and host Qatar (28 March). Zambrano’s first home match as Men’s National Team Head Coach will be 13 June in Montréal when Canada faces Curaçao as part of both nations’ preparations for the 2017 CONCACAF Gold Cup." Doesn't explicitly say he'll be the head coach for the Scotland game, but it does say the Curacao game will be his first home match as head coach, which kind of implies he will be the head coach in Scotland. Not sure how much overlap the Men's and the U-23 camps will have, but I would have assumed they would have to overlap at least a bit. Edited March 17, 2017 by Kent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazlo_80 Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 4 hours ago, matty said: Tweaks not just a tweak. There are various things that need work but I think we can agree this isn't as bad as 2013. Tweak might not be right to you but he isn't rebuilding the thing from seemingly the ground up like Floro had to. Remember this is a Canada that can get results against Costa Rica (in the US) and can beat Honduras (in Canada) in competitive matches. Agree it's definitely not as bad as 4 years ago. We are probably in agreement on 90%, it's just the other 10% that's fun to bicker about a little. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youllneverwalkalone Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 I'm not sure if 3 makes a "staff", (probably) but this is the first time I can recollect a foreign manager getting to bring in his own people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nolbertos Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 16 minutes ago, Jahinho Guerro said: I'm tired of every coach saying this. I get it, we get, everyone gets it- it's needed, its the obvious thing to say now. It shouldn't be the determination of where we can be successful right now. Because even if the CPL is announced for 2019, our next manager 5-6 years time from now will maybe be able to reap the benefits of such league. So is that when everything will be all sexy for Canada? I don't know... It'll take a minimum of a decade or more to get quality players from a academies, even CPL academies, should CPL happen before 2020. All we can hope for from Zambrano is helping us setup the grassroots movement better and identify players based on technical ability moreso than speed and grit (two traits that Canadian athletes most identify with). We already have an abundance of grit, don't need more. Also, he should follow Venezuela's futbol rise from perennial loser over the last 60-70 years to now having a youth squad that has qualified to (2) U-17 WC and now (2) U-20 WC within the last 20 years. Thats an impressive result, particularly when you're competing against Brasil, Argentina, Colombia, Uruguay, Chile and Ecuador for spots. Venezuela invested heavily in youth and now they've got that covered. Once we have the grassroots properly setup, the rest should fall into place like a domino effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nolbertos Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 1 minute ago, youllneverwalkalone said: I'm not sure if 3 makes a "staff", (probably) but this is the first time I can recollect a foreign manager getting to bring in his own people. Its common around the world for a manager to bring in their own people and adopt (1) local guy as an assistant. The CSA we're always demanding new coaches hire CSA staff, probably disuaded tons of candidates in the late 90's and early 2000's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youllneverwalkalone Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 Just now, nolbertos said: Its common around the world for a manager to bring in their own people and adopt (1) local guy as an assistant. The CSA we're always demanding new coaches hire CSA staff, probably disuaded tons of candidates in the late 90's and early 2000's. Exactly. It's an interesting shift and it makes me feel better about the hire giving that it's probably $500k or so to tie all these guys up. nolando 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Levi Oakey Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 Worth noting that nothing was said about Gale. Must still be on staff. Javier Livia is an assistant coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rheo Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 Haven't seen the presser but I'm still a fan of the hiring. But some people here really need to get a grasp on reality. Calling for his firing if the team doesn't accomplish anything in a tourney in a couple of months is idiotic and short sighted. There are systematic issues in Canada that hamper any CMNT coach. Constant turnover with the head coaching position won't help address those issues and won't draw quality candidates to the job in the future. This position isn't England where people are lining up for the chance. As a Leafs fan I've seen years of supposed "quick fixes" that were going to vault them back to glory only to fail over and over. It was only when ownership allowed someone with a vision to tear it down that it seems like they might be going somewhere with sustained success (that being said as a Leafs fan I will not be shocked when it fails as well) That being said, hope everyone enjoys their St Patrick's day and cheers Greatest Cockney Rip Off, Northvansteve, Obinna and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rheo Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 Here's the Canadian Press story with quotes from the new man in charge. http://www.sportsnet.ca/soccer/octavio-zambrano-canada-mens-team-soccer-concacaf-world-cup-gold-cup/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 He has presence that might inspire and wants to play attacking football. Appears a step in the right direction. Time will tell. Still feels a very random underwhelming appointment. I will take that if its a successful one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GimliJetsMan Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 Ok, we've got our man. What's next? What are our short term goals? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ansem Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 Octavio Zambrano: I've been preparing for this job all my life Jeff Blair show, Sportsnet 590 the Fan http://www.sportsnet.ca/590/jeff-blair-show/octavio-zambrano-ive-preparing-job-life/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shway Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 26 minutes ago, Rheo said: But some people here really need to get a grasp on reality. Calling for his firing if the team doesn't accomplish anything in a tourney in a couple of months is idiotic and short sighted. "...and if there isn't change in the Gold Cup, and by change I mean the attacking football we all expect to see...then I don't want to see him in August." I'm not a believer in rewarding consistent failure, as we've done in the past in the hope of minimal to no change. I can't be deceived by time as excuse no longer. After exiting the GC13 with two losses, a tie and zero goals scored.... Floro was perceived as Moses sent via God/Real Madrid and would bring expected change to the way Canada plays from youth ball to the national team.---oh but we changed alright. And how long did we take to notice the style of play?...not long, but we accepted the defend90 till we couldn't fail anymore....and thats a pattern we need to stop, especially since he has no history of coaching a national team, nevertheless being in charge of influencing the entire program from league inception to youth development. So all I'm saying is, I want to see how he setups this team to perform/score for the GC, and if I see any sense of Floro style tactics..."then I don't want to see him in August." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red card Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 Kristian Jack's view. Zambrano says he needs 6 months to assess, so anyone thinks he will be fired after GC for not advancing out of the group is naive. http://www.tsn.ca/zambrano-named-coach-canadian-men-s-team-1.699084 16 min interview with Zambrano. Jack asks a question about Cdns in MLS which Zambrano answers by talking about the CPL only. Jack asks again about MLS and Zambrano still says CPL should be still be the focus. http://www.tsn.ca/soccer/video/zambrano-sees-promise-in-canada-soccer-s-future~1080550 hamiltonfan, Moldy9, matty and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ansem Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 2 minutes ago, red card said: Kristian Jack's view. Zambrano says he needs 6 months to assess, so anyone thinks he will be fired after GC for not advancing out of the group is naive. http://www.tsn.ca/zambrano-named-coach-canadian-men-s-team-1.699084 16 min interview with Zambrano. Jack asks a question about Cdns in MLS which Zambrano answers by talking about the CPL only. Jack asks again about MLS and Zambrano still says CPL should be still be the focus. http://www.tsn.ca/soccer/video/zambrano-sees-promise-in-canada-soccer-s-future~1080550 Good man. He gets it, however, I don't think he's dismissing MLS, just that there aren't enough players to focus on playing lots of minutes. It's pretty much the end of the "unattached, bench warmer era" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rheo Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 Wasn't specifically directed to you @Jahinho Guerro I only breezed over the three pages since last night but there was at least one post directly calling for him to be fired if they didn't meet his expectations for the Gold Cup and it was liked by a few. Was just commenting that to that degree it's ridiculous. that being said you're calling for him to be fired if they've don't play the system that you believe is best for the country. Isn't that a bit presumptuous? No offense meant but they're seem to be a whole lot of keyboard warriors that think they know how to solve all the issues facing Canada soccer. Constant change isn't going to overcome the issues our program faces. Back to St Pattys day. Cheers Kent and Ansem 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 1 hour ago, toontownman said: He has presence that might inspire and wants to play attacking football. Appears a step in the right direction. Time will tell. Still feels a very random underwhelming appointment. I will take that if its a successful one. Based on resume alone, he should be less underwhelming than Hart, Mitchell and arguably Yallop. toontownman and Grizzly 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kent Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 So, I don't know if he has any nicknames. Maybe if he does badly, we call him Doc Oc. If he turns out to be some sort of magician with our national team we call him Wizard of OZ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kent Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 3 minutes ago, Obinna said: Based on resume alone, he should be less underwhelming than Hart, Mitchell and arguably Yallop. And this isn't apples to apples, but probably less underwhelming than John Herdman too. toontownman and Obinna 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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