Complete Homer Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 I don't even get what they are going for with TFC II anymore. I could understand creating a scaffold of veterans to support young players, but this "we must win at all levels" seems counter productive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kent Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 1 hour ago, shermanator said: It's unfortunate that it appears that the CSA sanctioning requirement for USL teams of 540 minutes per Canadians average is no longer around. It's a sad indictment of our development system that in addition to Canadians not being considered good enough for MLS clubs, now young Canadians don't appear to be good enough for the USL reserve clubs either. https://the11.ca/tfcii-and-wfc2s-early-can-con-shortage-not-an-issue-for-the-csa/ From the article linked above, Sandor said: "The CSA confirmed Friday that those requirements haven’t changed with USL’s move from Division-3 to Division-2 status. But it did state that these are “reserve roster” rules, as in, applying to reserve teams. So, when it comes to the Ottawa Fury, which is an independent affiliate of the Montreal Impact, well, that’s a different kind of animal." Then Canada Soccer quoted in the above article as saying: "In 2016, the clubs met the standard and purpose as outlined by the rule: FC Montreal — approximately 90 per cent of available minutes to Canadians Toronto FC II — approximately 60 per cent WFC2 — approximately 56 per cent After one game, Canadians played less than 25 per cent for Vancouver and TFC. The ultimate goal, as above, is minutes for Canadians over the course of a season. The rules were designed to provide a minimum to the teams so that they could achieve this target. Circumstances will often dictate that some flexibility will be needed — injuries, first-team call ups, international absences, etc. The international break and youth events over the weekend, Canada’s U23 camp and Senior match in Scotland, injuries, and the MLS weekend off for both TFC and VWFC due to the break were all contributing factors we find acceptable." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shermanator Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 17 minutes ago, Kent said: https://the11.ca/tfcii-and-wfc2s-early-can-con-shortage-not-an-issue-for-the-csa/ From the article linked above, Sandor said: "The CSA confirmed Friday that those requirements haven’t changed with USL’s move from Division-3 to Division-2 status. But it did state that these are “reserve roster” rules, as in, applying to reserve teams. So, when it comes to the Ottawa Fury, which is an independent affiliate of the Montreal Impact, well, that’s a different kind of animal." Then Canada Soccer quoted in the above article as saying: "In 2016, the clubs met the standard and purpose as outlined by the rule: FC Montreal — approximately 90 per cent of available minutes to Canadians Toronto FC II — approximately 60 per cent WFC2 — approximately 56 per cent After one game, Canadians played less than 25 per cent for Vancouver and TFC. The ultimate goal, as above, is minutes for Canadians over the course of a season. The rules were designed to provide a minimum to the teams so that they could achieve this target. Circumstances will often dictate that some flexibility will be needed — injuries, first-team call ups, international absences, etc. The international break and youth events over the weekend, Canada’s U23 camp and Senior match in Scotland, injuries, and the MLS weekend off for both TFC and VWFC due to the break were all contributing factors we find acceptable." Thanks for this. So I wonder what the excuse for this past weekend would be then? 360 CDN minutes for TFC II and 320 for WFC 2 in their games if my math is right. Still well below the 540 per game required (as per the article you quoted). If both clubs end up over the 540 per game average for the year, then great. But they're a long way off early on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kent Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 1 hour ago, shermanator said: Thanks for this. So I wonder what the excuse for this past weekend would be then? 360 CDN minutes for TFC II and 320 for WFC 2 in their games if my math is right. Still well below the 540 per game required (as per the article you quoted). If both clubs end up over the 540 per game average for the year, then great. But they're a long way off early on. Yeah, I wonder what the penalty even would be if they don't meet the quota. Does anybody know? Do they lose their sanctioning and then go the route of FC Montreal and find an affiliate instead? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bison44 Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 I thought there was already rumors that WC2 was going to be done after this year?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masster Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 5 hours ago, Bison44 said: I thought there was already rumors that WC2 was going to be done after this year?? There were, but at this time, those don't seem to be accurate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRM Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 Did anyone get hurt on the U23 duty? Hope not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gopherbashi Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 5 hours ago, Bison44 said: I thought there was already rumors that WC2 was going to be done after this year?? I heard one person said it on Twitter so it's pretty much undeniable at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCM Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 6 hours ago, Kent said: Yeah, I wonder what the penalty even would be if they don't meet the quota. Does anybody know? Do they lose their sanctioning and then go the route of FC Montreal and find an affiliate instead? Maybe they'll have to join the CPL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bison44 Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 Looks like Telfer up top, Malik Johnson, Fraser, Hundal in the middle with Cavalluzo in net. 5 starters, Lareya for Orlando 2. I think that Shermanator complaining about this stuff is really working. Petrasso gets minutes, TFC2 start 5 CDN. Keep at it SHermy!!!! Game starting shortly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bison44 Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 After Cavalluzo got bodychecked into his own net, Malik Johnson makes it all even at 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_M Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 April 4 Cavalluzzo Alseth-Taintor-Onkony McCrary Telfer Fraser Johnson James Hundal John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shermanator Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 This TFC II backline is absolutely terrible. Complete pylons out there. OCB are having their way with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_M Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 This is a test for Bent. Down 2 goals with 20 to go but up a man and they had a sub left after the red. He's kept the system the same for now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_M Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 Didn't pass the test. Kept it all the same and just relied on Endoh to make the difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatest Cockney Rip Off Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 Thought Johnson looked really good. Hope that means more playing time for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shway Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 Found this...Luis "chino" Pereira . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macksam Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 On 4/4/2017 at 8:32 PM, Big_M said: April 4 Cavalluzzo Alseth-Taintor-Onkony McCrary Telfer Fraser Johnson James Hundal John I see management is employing the Detroit Red Wings philosophy of having the second team playing the same system as the first. We should give them credit for that at the very least. How were Hundal and Fraser? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shway Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 5 hours ago, Macksam said: How were Hundal and Fraser? Fraser was shit against Tampa.....better against OCB. Hundal was alright...but I see him getting less minutes or less goals this year considering the better competition up top in Spencer, Telfer, and John. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Offside Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 Some of these tfc2 players are over rated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatest Cockney Rip Off Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 Only three Canadian starters for TFC2 tonight. This is becoming a bit of a joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shermanator Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 Hell, Rochester is starting the same number of Canadians as TFC II. And they're a club that has no mandate to develop players for anyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruffian Posted April 7, 2017 Author Share Posted April 7, 2017 Cavalluzzo looks tiny in that goal! Not gonna grow more, he is 24. Will he be our Jorge Campos...? Unlikely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_M Posted April 8, 2017 Share Posted April 8, 2017 Cavalluzzo is 1 1/2 years older, has the same weakness as Roberts which is aerial balls and hasn't showed better than him. Bring back Roberts even if it's to play 10 games in the season. April 7 Cavalluzzo Taintor-Aubrey-Peters Alseth Telfer James Endoh Johnson Spencer Andrews Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruffian Posted April 8, 2017 Author Share Posted April 8, 2017 Camargo has made some good plays since he has come on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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