Pat Carrasco Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 I was wondering if the CPL is expected to sign a jersey contract with a BIG corporate sponsor of the likes of MLS has going with Adidas? I was told that Adidas pays 25M a year for their contract with the MLS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matty Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 I made a joke that failed earlier about New Balance doing the CPL jerseys so weird that this question was posted. I'm pretty sure Umbro (due to their CSA relationship) or Adias (due to their CFL relationship) will end up handling it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Carrasco Posted January 28, 2017 Author Share Posted January 28, 2017 24 minutes ago, matty said: I made a joke that failed earlier about New Balance doing the CPL jerseys so weird that this question was posted. I'm pretty sure Umbro (due to their CSA relationship) or Adias (due to their CFL relationship) will end up handling it. Do you think such a deal is vital for the CPL? And how much would Adidas, Umbro, Puma, Under Armour or even New Balance will pay? $20 or 25M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matty Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 Just now, Pat Carrasco said: Do you think such a deal is vital for the CPL? And how much would Adidas, Umbro, Puma or even New Balance will pay? $20 or 25M I imagine it would be less. Not sure what the CFL's deal with Adidas is but I imagine it'd be half of that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gopherbashi Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 39 minutes ago, matty said: I made a joke that failed earlier about New Balance doing the CPL jerseys so weird that this question was posted. I'm pretty sure Umbro (due to their CSA relationship) or Adias (due to their CFL relationship) will end up handling it. Amway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kent Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 3 hours ago, Pat Carrasco said: Do you think such a deal is vital for the CPL? And how much would Adidas, Umbro, Puma, Under Armour or even New Balance will pay? $20 or 25M Right from the get go on an unproven and risky league? I imagine it will be closer to the $20.00 figure you mentioned than the $25,000,000 figure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex D Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 I'd be happy if (insert supplier) actually made bespoke uniforms for the league. I don't want it to be like the old adidas Canada kits where they handed us anything in red they had extras of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuillermoDelQuarto Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 this is a canadian company and watfords new kit manufacturer. They look pretty sharp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Complete Homer Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 Adidas pays MLS 25M per year to be the jersey producer. We're obviously nowhere near that ballpark, but it is plausible the league could get something . I'd be curious as to what MLS attracted in 1996. NASL doesn't have a unified shirt producer, but that likely has more to do with structure that ability to attract dollars. I'm more curious about individual shirt sponsors. If the larger NASL teams are getting 1M per year for shirt sponsor, you'd think CPL could at least attract 500k in most markets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matty Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 10 hours ago, Gopherbashi said: Amway. Amway. Advocare. Herbalife. MLMs are a proud North American soccer tradition! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackTheBlizzard Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 8 hours ago, Complete Homer said: I'm more curious about individual shirt sponsors. If the larger NASL teams are getting 1M per year for shirt sponsor, you'd think CPL could at least attract 500k in most markets Until it becomes clear what markets would be involved and whether games would be televised on an easily accessed basic cable channel rather than something like Rogers cable that doesn't seem like a safe assumption to me. I'd also be wary of figures taken from wikipedia as it may be a bit like David Beckham's $250 million contract with MLS in that the headline grabbing number depended on an exceedingly unlikely set of performance bonuses. http://www.forbes.com/sites/kurtbadenhausen/2012/11/30/david-beckham-departs-mls-after-earning-255-million/#2b0d6fbc2b David Beckham signed a contract in January 2007 to join the Los Angeles Galaxy of Major League Soccer. Adding the world's most famous soccer player generated a massive amount of attention for the upstart league. His deal was widely reported to be for $250 million over five years. The reality is the $250 million was the potential earnings for Beckham from all sources on and off the field. His base salary was $6.5 million a year and he received a percentage of Galaxy revenue that brought the total to $50 million over the five years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Complete Homer Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 2 hours ago, BringBackTheBlizzard said: Until it becomes clear what markets would be involved and whether games would be televised on an easily accessed basic cable channel rather than something like Rogers cable that doesn't seem like a safe assumption to me. I'd also be wary of figures taken from wikipedia as it may be a bit like David Beckham's $250 million contract with MLS in that the headline grabbing number depended on an exceedingly unlikely set of performance bonuses. http://www.forbes.com/sites/kurtbadenhausen/2012/11/30/david-beckham-departs-mls-after-earning-255-million/#2b0d6fbc2b David Beckham signed a contract in January 2007 to join the Los Angeles Galaxy of Major League Soccer. Adding the world's most famous soccer player generated a massive amount of attention for the upstart league. His deal was widely reported to be for $250 million over five years. The reality is the $250 million was the potential earnings for Beckham from all sources on and off the field. His base salary was $6.5 million a year and he received a percentage of Galaxy revenue that brought the total to $50 million over the five years. Yeah that's fair, regarding Wikipedia valuations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matty Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 5 hours ago, BringBackTheBlizzard said: Until it becomes clear what markets would be involved and whether games would be televised on an easily accessed basic cable channel rather than something like Rogers cable that doesn't seem like a safe assumption to me. Both are very true. A league with teams outside of most of the CFL/NHL markets and zero national TV will not be signing any big advertising deals. Even in the age of streaming shit online, TV is still the best way to find a mass audience and make that advertiser moolah. In all likelihood, there will not be a manufacturer deal for the first few years aside from say Umbro or Dry World providing jerseys for free and selling them online. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rintaran Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 1 hour ago, matty said: Both are very true. A league with teams outside of most of the CFL/NHL markets and zero national TV will not be signing any big advertising deals. Even in the age of streaming shit online, TV is still the best way to find a mass audience and make that advertiser moolah. In all likelihood, there will not be a manufacturer deal for the first few years aside from say Umbro or Dry World providing jerseys for free and selling them online. Sadly, I have to agree with this assessment. That being said, I could see Dry World making a leap. So far they've kept their brand with a pretty small footprint, only focusing on a few teams. Being a Canadian company is where the brand synergy could come into play. If they wanted to make a bit of a splash, I could see them doing a short 1 or 2-year league-wide contract. We're only talking 8-teams, so their outlay shouldn't overload their current production capacity and it could have some pretty good benefits for them as a company if the whole thing is marketed correctly. That being said, I don't see them paying a large sum to the CanPL in order to have the rights for the 1 or 2 years. Maybe a significantly smaller sum, max $5 mil more likely $1 mil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unnamed Trialist Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 I heard the CPL is using this thread to get a bidding war going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex D Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 1 hour ago, Unnamed Trialist said: I heard the CPL is using this thread to get a bidding war going. My unnamed, possibly real, performance garment company will sponson this league for eleventy million dollars In reality, it seems Dry World also make kits for QPR and a few Brazilian clubs. Overall their work is pretty nice. I would be happy if they took on the CPL pro-bono as long as they put in a proper effort and craft a unique look for each club. That being said I'm sure the team owners would like to squeak out some sweet sweet sponsorship cash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steedman Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 19 hours ago, GuillermoDelQuarto said: this is a canadian company and watfords new kit manufacturer. They look pretty sharp. Im okay with the league having as much Canadian content as possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matty Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 2 hours ago, Steedman said: Im okay with the league having as much Canadian content as possible. Is Dryworld stuff any good and is it actually made in Canada? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Hammer- Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 I think someone will step up to the plate, but for 8 figures? No way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuillermoDelQuarto Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 1 hour ago, matty said: Is Dryworld stuff any good and is it actually made in Canada? any good? not sure, looks pretty cool though. HQ is in Victoria but I think some of the factories are in brasil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matty Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 1 minute ago, GuillermoDelQuarto said: any good? not sure, looks pretty cool though. I was thinking the same but QPR just dumped them less than a year into a 10 year deal and it seems Atletico Mineiro did the same Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baulderdash77 Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 I wouldn't be surprised if they could get in the 1-3 million range. That's not bad to start to be honest and is probably a realistic representation of the value. It would be about 1/10th of the MLS deal. This is contingent of course on getting a national TV deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gopherbashi Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 Does anyone know if the CFL has a deal? That's probably a better comparison than MLS, if only due to the American audience behind MLS and the more-important-in-Canada's-smaller-cities aspect of the CFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baulderdash77 Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 The CFL is with Adidas. It's a "seven figure per year" deal with no other details. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shway Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 Canada Kit Manufacturers: Dryworld Inaria Lika Konno Sports Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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