Obinna Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 6 hours ago, jpg75 said: ^ Korona Kielce? FC Dallas? ? They didn't make the list Although to be fair FC Dallas are a very good squad by MLS standards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shway Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 (edited) The reality is he's average at best, and he's always been. Just because he's has gained a lot of caps for Canada, it doesn't justify shit. I for one, have never rated him but because he's been in the program for so long, he's been one of these unwarranted mainstays who has used his "CMNT player tag" to his advantage. Now struggling to find a club at 26, its one a testament to his skill level that he's a Voyageur looking for a home and this just shows where we are as a nation, that not even he could walk into an MLS side. He'll get a deal on some hole in the wall club in Scandanavia or Western Europe...if not he'll end up in the USL/NASL. Edited February 25, 2017 by Jahinho Guerro JamboAl, miel de maple and Marc 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shamrock Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 21 hours ago, Jahinho Guerro said: The reality is he's average at best, and he's always been. Just because he's has gained a lot of caps for Canada, it doesn't justify shit. I for one, have never rated him but because he's been in the program for so long, he's been one of these unwarranted mainstays who has used his "CMNT player tag" to his advantage. Now struggling to find a club at 26, its one a testament to his skill level that he's a Voyageur looking for a home and this just shows where we are as a nation, that not even he could walk into an MLS side. He'll get a deal on some hole in the wall club in Scandanavia or Western Europe...if not he'll end up in the USL/NASL. Unfortunately, I completely agree with this assessment... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 On 2/25/2017 at 2:32 AM, Jahinho Guerro said: The reality is he's average at best, and he's always been. To be fair, he seemed like a great prospect when he was 19 and starting for Energie Cottbus in the 2. Bundesliga. Unfortunately that was the high point of his club career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shway Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 59 minutes ago, Obinna said: To be fair, he seemed like a great prospect when he was 19 and starting for Energie Cottbus in the 2. Bundesliga. Unfortunately that was the high point of his club career. Obi, to be fair that's majority of our prospects... Obinna 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 (edited) 45 minutes ago, Jahinho Guerro said: Obi, to be fair that's majority of our prospects... Which begs the question, why do we have so many promising players who amount to so little? Edited February 26, 2017 by Obinna Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditty Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 1 hour ago, Obinna said: Which begs the question, why do we have so many promising players who amount to so little? I actually think the issue is the opposite; we don't have nearly enough young players on a professional path. Every country has their Hanson Boakai's; young players who show great promise and then for whatever reason fizzle out. It's just they have a lot more of them. Greatest Cockney Rip Off, Shway, shermanator and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shermanator Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 (edited) 2 hours ago, Obinna said: Which begs the question, why do we have so many promising players who amount to so little? I think the issue is that we don't actually have much talent to pick from. Our promising players are simply big fish in a small pond who we think are promising, but turn out to be worse than their peers from other countries when the level of competition is raised. I'll use Keven Aleman as an example. He's been getting a lot of hype around here because he's had some success during his 2 months at Saprissa after bouncing around from Herediano and Belen. But, is having a small measure of success in the Primera Division really that special? Or is Aleman being rated too highly because we want someone so desperately to be a creative presence in the offense? Edited February 26, 2017 by shermanator Kent, ditty, Ruffian and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 (edited) 6 hours ago, shermanator said: I think the issue is that we don't actually have much talent to pick from. Our promising players are simply big fish in a small pond who we think are promising, but turn out to be worse than their peers from other countries when the level of competition is raised. I'll use Keven Aleman as an example. He's been getting a lot of hype around here because he's had some success during his 2 months at Saprissa after bouncing around from Herediano and Belen. But, is having a small measure of success in the Primera Division really that special? Or is Aleman being rated too highly because we want someone so desperately to be a creative presence in the offense? I'm not afraid to admit I'm desperately wishing for a creative presence on offense Are we really rating him too highly though? I mean, I think he deserves a spot on the Gold Cup roster at this rate. I don't think that's too much. He's playing alongside central american internationals in both training and game action, some of whom will likely play in the Gold Cup for Costa Rica and Panama. Why not Aleman for Canada? Edited February 27, 2017 by Obinna MtlMario 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 6 hours ago, ditty said: I actually think the issue is the opposite; we don't have nearly enough young players on a professional path. Every country has their Hanson Boakai's; young players who show great promise and then for whatever reason fizzle out. It's just they have a lot more of them. For sure. I think it feels like a lot of our guys fall down the ladder because we simply don't have that many guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nolando Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 On Friday, February 24, 2017 at 2:51 AM, Keegan said: If a 26 year old with 40+ caps for us needs to play NASL we're worse off than I thought we were. We're most definitely worse off than you thought we were... matty, BringBackTheBlizzard, Kent and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kent Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 7 hours ago, shermanator said: I think the issue is that we don't actually have much talent to pick from. Our promising players are simply big fish in a small pond who we think are promising, but turn out to be worse than their peers from other countries when the level of competition is raised. I'll use Keven Aleman as an example. He's been getting a lot of hype around here because he's had some success during his 2 months at Saprissa after bouncing around from Herediano and Belen. But, is having a small measure of success in the Primera Division really that special? Or is Aleman being rated too highly because we want someone so desperately to be a creative presence in the offense? Yeah, our players aren't on the biggest clubs in the world that draw from all over the world. We get a guy on a Costa Rican team or a Scottish team, etc and think they must be great. We don't tend to look at the team and realize there are 7, 8, 9, or 10 guys that are starting beside him that are all from the country the team is from, plus of course all the other teams in that league stocked with their domestics. Cripes I can't wait for the CPL. MtlMario and jpg75 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 15 hours ago, Kent said: Yeah, our players aren't on the biggest clubs in the world that draw from all over the world. We get a guy on a Costa Rican team or a Scottish team, etc and think they must be great. We don't tend to look at the team and realize there are 7, 8, 9, or 10 guys that are starting beside him that are all from the country the team is from, plus of course all the other teams in that league stocked with their domestics. Cripes I can't wait for the CPL. Yeah that is a good point. We need the depth to give Canadians the chance to become local stars. They will be big fish in a small pond, but they can transfer up to MLS or elsewhere with confidence and a chip on their shoulder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince193 Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 He with FC Edmonton at the moment. Not sure if signed or just training, might be a trial. matty, Greatest Cockney Rip Off and Ruffian 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 13 minutes ago, Vince193 said: He with FC Edmonton at the moment. Not sure if signed or just training, might be a trial. Would be a good move. Might be a path to MLS. Ruffian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shermanator Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 Just some more info as per Steven Sandor. Personally, I don't think Straith to FC Edmonton is a good move, unless it's really the only place he can get signed. If everyone stays healthy, I doubt Watson or Diakite lose their spot at CB. Ledgerwood will be their every game DM and Eustaquio can fill in there as well. The only way I can see a Straith to FC Edmonton move working is if Miller is signing him to take a bunch of Watson's minutes, as his career is on it's last legs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jedinathan Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 54 minutes ago, Vince193 said: He with FC Edmonton at the moment. Not sure if signed or just training, might be a trial. Steve did just confirm that he is signed, but only on a contract for spring. hamiltonfan, Greatest Cockney Rip Off, Obinna and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruffian Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 26 minutes ago, jedinathan said: Steve did just confirm that he is signed, but only on a contract for spring. Isn't this is similar to what De Jong did with Ottawa? jedinathan and hamiltonfan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jedinathan Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 48 minutes ago, Ruffian said: Isn't this is similar to what De Jong did with Ottawa? Basically the same thing, yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shermanator Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 Article from Steven Sandor on the Straith signing. He's being brought in as cover for Albert Watson and Pape Diakite. Hopefully there's a better opportunity for Straith, whether it be in Edmonton or elsewhere, in the summer. https://the11.ca/straith-signs-with-fc-edmonton-for-the-nasl-spring-season/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegan Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 On the plus side Jakovic is the only remaining member of Unattached FC in our pool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matty Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 likely a step up from Norway's 2nd Division and Fredrikstad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shamrock Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 Yeah it's better to play than not play. If he really is beyond NASL level it will show. Both De Jong and Tissot made the most of their time NASL so he should too. And if not, NASL might really be his level. Ruffian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shway Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 (edited) what's different about his situation from Tissot, and De Jong is that he's coming to the team as a known backup/cover. Straith will be fatefully hoping Edmonton start taking goals early or that someone gets injured. If not he'll return to the UFC in the summer. Edited February 28, 2017 by Jahinho Guerro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yothat Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 Miller said he feels he has an “excellent, attack-minded group.” He’s used Straith — usually thought of as a back-line player or a holding midfielder — in a more attacking midfield role, with good results. Greatest Cockney Rip Off 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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