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FIFA Confederations Cup 2017 June 17-July2 Russia


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This may be the final edition of the Confederations Cup.  The test event for Qatar will be a club world cup instead of the Confederations Cup with no word on an alternate host.  For 2026 the 6 team WC qualification playoff will serve as the test event for the host country.  There were also reports a few months back that FIFA wants to expand the Club World Cup and hold it every 2 years (odd-numbered years) in June.

http://aroundtherings.com/site/A__59608/Title__FIFA-Proposal-Could-Eliminate-Confederations-Cup/292/Articles

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9 hours ago, The Ref said:

Conmebol wants a showdown between UEFA and Conmebol.  Surely it makes for more competitive games to watch, but isn't the Confederations Cup already that to a great extent.  https://www.fourfourtwo.com/news/chile-versus-portugal-conmebol-confident-arranging-showpiece-uefa-games

The two club events seem like a much better idea than the expanded Club World Cup.

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On 4/2/2017 at 8:44 AM, The Ref said:

Has anyone heard if our sports TV networks or CBC will be picking up these games?

CBC will air the matches in Canada meanwhile TF1 – Television Francaise 1 SA in France region. ITV to broadcast in UK region. The more info about broadcasting for confed. cup you can get here: http://www.sportsmirchi.com/fifa-confederations-cup-broadcasters-tv-channels/

 

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On 06/05/2017 at 3:07 PM, shivesh73 said:

CBC will air the matches in Canada

I wouldn't trust that. CTV/TSN/RDS have the rights for all FIFA international events until 2026 except the Club World Cup. The last Confederations' Cup was shown on CBC so they probably assumed that it would stay there. Plus what kind of site is that?

Here's a news release about it. Find me something more than a dubious site. 

http://www.newswire.ca/news-releases/bell-media-secures-rights-to-fifa-world-cup-soccer-package-from-2015-to-2022-508941511.html

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On 2017-6-16 at 5:27 PM, The Ref said:

One could question the purpose of this Cup when some of the countries send B squads.

Yea and it's a shame cause on paper this tourney should be at least as big as the continental cups. Maybe if they simply did it as a knock-out thing it would be taken more seriously as every game would have high stakes.

Shame they're going to likely kill this thing cause the concept is awesome.

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My two cents ... the Confederations Cup is basically the national team version of the Club World Cup. You're always going to get a New Zeland or a Kasima Antlers showing up, which deminishes competitiveness and legitimacy. These competitions are only 'global' in name.

I don't have an alternative, but perhaps a proper U21 or U23 World Cup would work. This summer for example, teams like Portugal and Germany had to stretch talent across three competitions, all pretty much at the same time: Confederations Cup, U20 World Cup, and U21 Euro. Make no sense. 

By having a proper U21/U23 World Cup, that would also give old timers like Sanchez and Ronaldo a break from non-stop competitions. 

Just a thought ... -Paul. 

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22 hours ago, IAmPappy said:

My two cents ... the Confederations Cup is basically the national team version of the Club World Cup. You're always going to get a New Zeland or a Kasima Antlers showing up, which deminishes competitiveness and legitimacy. These competitions are only 'global' in name.

 

While I agree the OFC (aka New Zealand) sides are not "good", I don't feel they're not the cause of the Tourney having diminished legitimacy, teams skipping the cup or sending B-teams and lack of money generated and lower TV ratings did.

I don't blame any nation for sending a B-team. The calendar is busy (season ended less than a month ago) and the Confederations Cup really doesn't have the glory or payoff ($6.6m CAD vs $67m~(WC), $12m~(Euros), $8.5m (Copa America)). Plus winning doesn't secure you anything (eg. a World Cup spot or spot in the next ConCup or even a Super Cup thing).

23 hours ago, IAmPappy said:

I don't have an alternative, but perhaps a proper U21 or U23 World Cup would work. This summer for example, teams like Portugal and Germany had to stretch talent across three competitions, all pretty much at the same time: Confederations Cup, U20 World Cup, and U21 Euro. Make no sense. 

By having a proper U21/U23 World Cup, that would also give old timers like Sanchez and Ronaldo a break from non-stop competitions. 

Just a thought ... -Paul. 

A proper U23 thing would be interesting but it might hurt the Olympics. Maybe replacing a U23 with a "select team" made up of domestic based players with 3 players from foreign leagues could work.

It's interesting you mention the CWC cause I really do think making the tournament more like the CWC (a quicker knock-out cup) would make it a better event.

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Just now, dsqpr said:

So what are the FIFA world rankings for then?!

What an organization. Still, one has to concede that they are good at making money. Then again, so are the Mafia.

They are good at making money outside of the Confederations Cup, which they struggled to sell the TV rights to this year in Russia somehow

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1 hour ago, matty said:

While I agree the OFC (aka New Zealand) sides are not "good", I don't feel they're not the cause of the Tourney having diminished legitimacy, teams skipping the cup or sending B-teams and lack of money generated and lower TV ratings did.

I don't blame any nation for sending a B-team. The calendar is busy (season ended less than a month ago) and the Confederations Cup really doesn't have the glory or payoff ($6.6m CAD vs $67m~(WC), $12m~(Euros), $8.5m (Copa America)). Plus winning doesn't secure you anything (eg. a World Cup spot or spot in the next ConCup or even a Super Cup thing).

A proper U23 thing would be interesting but it might hurt the Olympics. Maybe replacing a U23 with a "select team" made up of domestic based players with 3 players from foreign leagues could work.

It's interesting you mention the CWC cause I really do think making the tournament more like the CWC (a quicker knock-out cup) would make it a better event.

Agreed. Schedule congestion is a real problem. Too many things going on simultaneously. Nations are forced to make choices and then we get b-teams showing up.

Interesting you should mention the Olympics. That's marketed as a U23 competition, but FIFA (by design!) doesn't require clubs to release their talent for the Olympics, so clubs don't. To compensate, FIFA/IOC allow 3 players that are over 23. That seems silly. It's either U23 or it's not.

By clearing the calendar and having just one flagship competition each summer, it would make that competition much more marketable, legitimate, and profitable.

My 2 cents -Paul. 

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