Tuscan Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 Now that League1 Ontario seems to be solidified and expanding healthily, of what use is the current CSL? Let's forgo the obvious "it's a place for people to bet on fixed matches" etc... I'm seriously asking of what use the league really plays in the grand scheme of things?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gopherbashi Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 In the grand scheme of developing young Canadian soccer players? Probably none, but that doesn't mean it doesn't have a use to some people. Not everyone has the desire to play on a FIFA-oriented development team, or play for free, or play (or run a team) outside their close community. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ted Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 None whatsoever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kent Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 I suppose the players get some exercise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matty Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 it's a totally legitimate and professional league that presents the most honest form of soccer known to man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Hammer- Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 7 hours ago, Tuscan said: Now that League1 Ontario seems to be solidified and expanding healthily, of what use is the current CSL? Let's forgo the obvious "it's a place for people to bet on fixed matches" etc... I'm seriously asking of what use the league really plays in the grand scheme of things?? From a developmental standpoint, it only has one "benefit". If a player gets too old to play for a League 1 Ontario team (as they generally want U-23 players in league 1 Ontario) but can't crack it in one of the few limited USL slots available for Canadians, he has a place to go and keep playing close to home and stay in shape, in hopes that one day he might get picked up by one. It's the last desperate chance for those who likely should have moved on from their dreams of playing professionally in our country, that simply doesn't have enough pro spots. That use will likely further dwindle if the CPL comes around, League 1 Ontario continues to expand and reserve squads start to come into being. Realisitcally though, the only benefit is that it is an unsanctioned pub league which offers the same benefits. Only that, occasionally you'll face a ringer team who may or may not trounce you, depending on if someone has been stupid enough to bet on your game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuscan Posted December 29, 2016 Author Share Posted December 29, 2016 An interesting comment, that it sort of is a final place to play high level competitive games in the hopes of perhaps getting another shot at a pro contract. Is that actually a reality? Do we know of any players who have gone to the CSL and managed to get looked at for a pro contract due to making that move? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pqhbv Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 Rocket Robin would be best to chime in here, but I vaguely recall a former TFC prospect going to the CSL (pre L1O) after not getting minutes in TFC2. He eventually signed a pro contract somewhere else IIRC. In the end, the CSL's usefulness is waning and it will fade soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackTheBlizzard Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 In addition to the CSL, there is also the Lika Supergroup that includes Toronto Croatia and some other ex-CSL groups. Turning things round another way, it's not clear that L1O has achieved anything noteworthy so far that merits a professional level sanctioning and it's not a safe assumption that these other leagues are going to disappear just because Dino Rossi is better connected at OSA level than they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuscan Posted December 29, 2016 Author Share Posted December 29, 2016 Assuming L1O fits into the desired D3 slot in the player dev pathway, shouldn't we be hoping L1O produces players who end up with pro contracts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackTheBlizzard Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 The top clubs in the Toronto area will always be doing that regardless of the mechanics of how things are sanctioned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grande Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 The CSL is the only soccer league that has a team in Hamilton, so it's got that going for it I guess... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ted Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 ^ True, who controls Hamilton, controls the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket Robin Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 Even though I haven't been to a CSL game since L1O started in 2014, this article on Canada's National Team for Beach Soccer brings up some names I recognize. Adrian Cann , Milos Scepanovic, and Marc Jankovic all conveniently from Unattached FC are all stars from the CSL. Scepanovic scored the lone goal for Serbian White Eagles in their win at the Finals back in November. Canada Soccer picks squad for CONCACAF Beach Soccer Championship 13 February 2017 Canada Soccer has announced their 11-player squad for the upcoming 2017 CONCACAF Beach Soccer Championship in Nassau, Bahamas. The Canadian squad will participate in the seventh edition of the continental championship from 20-26 February. "The guys know the importance of this competition and they understand the effort that we are all putting behind this team," said Kyt Selaidopoulos, Canada Soccer's National Beach Soccer Coach. "We will be very organised and structured and we will represent Canada very well." Only two nations participating at this year's CONCACAF Beach Soccer Championship will qualify for the FIFA Beach Soccer World Cup, which will also be held in Bahamas this year from 27 April to 7 May. The CONCACAF Beach Soccer Championship features 16 nations, although neither the Bahamas (already qualified as hosts) nor Guadeloupe (not a FIFA member) will win CONCACAF's two final spots for the FIFA Beach Soccer World Cup Bahamas 2017. All 16 nations will play six matches - three matches in the group phase and three matches in the classification phase. In the group phase, Canada will face Barbados (20 February), Mexico (21 February), and Guadeloupe (23 February). From there, the top two nations in each group will advance to the quarter-finals on 24 February, then four teams will advance to the Semi-finals on 25 February, and then two nations will advance to the Final on 26 February. This will mark Canada's fifth participation at the CONCACAF Beach Soccer Championship since 2006, not counting their participation in a CONCACAF-CONMEBOL qualification tournament in 2005. Canada finished CONCACAF runners up in 2006 to qualify for the FIFA Beach World Cup in Brazil in that year.CANADA 1- GK- Vincent Cournoyer | CAN / Royal Sélect Beauport 2- D- Daniel Chamale | USA / Milwaukee Wave 3- M- Jacob Orellana | CAN / Toronto United 4- D- Adrian Cann | Unattached 6- M- Ian Bennett | USA / Milwaukee Wave 7- M- Milos Scepanovic | Unattached 8- M- Nazim Belguendouz | CAN / FC Grenadiers 9- F- Danilo Pessoa | CAN / FC Grenadiers 10- M- Marc Jankovic | Unattached 11- F- Robert Renaud | USA / Milwaukee Wave 12- GK- Anthony Alves | UnattachedCANADA A-ZName | Birthyear | Age | Hometown | Active start/first club Alves, Anthony | 1984 | 32 | Toronto, ON, CAN | North York Jets SC Belguendouz, Nazim | 1991 | 25 | Montréal,QC, CAN Bennett, Ian | 1983 | 33 | Hamilton, ON, CAN | Mount Hamilton SC Cann, Adrian | 1980 | 36 | Thornhill, ON, CAN | Thornhill SC Chamale, Daniel | 1993 | 23 | Toronto, ON, CAN | Toronto Guatemala SC Cournoyer, Vincent | 1987 | 29 | St-Hyacinthe, QC, CAN | CS St-Hyacinthe Jankovic, Marc | 1980 | 36 | Toronto, ON, CAN | Northern Secondary School Orellana, Jacob | 1995 | 22 | Toronto, ON, CAN | Toronto Club Uruguay Pessoa, Danilo | 1990 | 26 | Kedgwick, NB, CAN | FC Guapira Renaud, Robert | 1993 | 23 | Laval, QC, CAN | Delta Laval Scepanovic, Milos | 1989 | 27 | Toronto, ON, CAN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kent Posted February 19, 2017 Share Posted February 19, 2017 What are people's thoughts on this? My understanding was that players in an unsanctioned league wouldn't be eligible for national team representation. Would it make sense for the CSA to be more tough on people supporting the CSL, or should they not be that antagonistic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Complete Homer Posted February 19, 2017 Share Posted February 19, 2017 14 minutes ago, Kent said: What are people's thoughts on this? My understanding was that players in an unsanctioned league wouldn't be eligible for national team representation. Would it make sense for the CSA to be more tough on people supporting the CSL, or should they not be that antagonistic? I'm fairly certain they are ineligible for official FIFA events. Not sure if the beach soccer tournament counts though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kent Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 4 hours ago, Complete Homer said: I'm fairly certain they are ineligible for official FIFA events. Not sure if the beach soccer tournament counts though It says it is a CONCACAF event, but I see your point. I guess that is different from FIFA. So is your understanding that FIFA wouldn't allow them in a FIFA event, or is it the CSA that wouldn't allow them in a FIFA event? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Complete Homer Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 11 hours ago, Kent said: It says it is a CONCACAF event, but I see your point. I guess that is different from FIFA. So is your understanding that FIFA wouldn't allow them in a FIFA event, or is it the CSA that wouldn't allow them in a FIFA event? I believe *FIFA* wouldn't let them. But I'm no expert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDNFootballer Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 Canadian mens national team player and former MLSer Terry Dunfield played for Toronto Atomic in the CSL last year. Guess it suited him for a place to wind down his career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyFromToronto23 Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 On 2016-12-29 at 0:24 PM, Tuscan said: An interesting comment, that it sort of is a final place to play high level competitive games in the hopes of perhaps getting another shot at a pro contract. Is that actually a reality? Do we know of any players who have gone to the CSL and managed to get looked at for a pro contract due to making that move? Jonathan Osorio played for SC Toronto in the CSL in 2012 before joining Toronto FC in 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kent Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 21 hours ago, DannyFromToronto23 said: Jonathan Osorio played for SC Toronto in the CSL in 2012 before joining Toronto FC in 2013 True, but it is worth noting, that happened when TFCA was playing in the league, and sanctioning had not yet been pulled by the CSA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackdude Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 On 20/02/2017 at 11:10 AM, Complete Homer said: I believe *FIFA* wouldn't let them. But I'm no expert FIFA would let them. Playing in the CSL is the same as being unattached to FIFA. They won't care that you're playing in a rogue league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ted Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 11 hours ago, Blackdude said: FIFA would let them. Playing in the CSL is the same as being unattached to FIFA. They won't care that you're playing in a rogue league. That is totally wrong. If you play for a non-FIFA affiliated team you are supposed to be blacklisted. That is how they enforce rules on transfers and international call-ups, by withdrawing sanction which makes players untouchable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackdude Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 1 hour ago, ted said: That is totally wrong. If you play for a non-FIFA affiliated team you are supposed to be blacklisted. That is how they enforce rules on transfers and international call-ups, by withdrawing sanction which makes players untouchable. Name me one example. If they play in a rogue league, how does FIFA know about it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ted Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 ^ This is why the Criminal Soccer League example is so important. FIFA hasn't had to apply the rules because for decades they have been unchallenged. If this bush league operation is not shut down the owners of the big European teams are someday gonna start their super league outside of UEFA/FIFA control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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