Ansem Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 It really comes down to using all your assets the best way possible to get the most out of them. When Larin gets quality service, he'll score. So why not a 4-2-3-1 with Davies, David & Arfield giving him quality passes ----------------Cavallini/Larin -----------Arfield-----David-----Davies ------------Eustaquio-----Piette Miller---Cornelius---Vitoria---Laryea -----------------------Crepeau Obinna 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floortom Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 51 minutes ago, JuicyHam said: With the way Cav played last game and if we insist on having a traditional 9 Larin is my choice to start. Cavallini off the bench is a much better option Cavallini was atrocious last match against the US but he has been very good generally in a Canadian shirt - much better than Larin and it isn’t particularly close. Would be rash to take him out of the starting 11 for Larin. Colliedor, TFC2017, InBorjanWeTrust and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bison44 Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 15 minutes ago, gator said: It's funny how quickly things change in a couple of months, Larin was out of the MNT picture and we were all singing the praises of Cavallini, Larin's form in Belgium has changed all that! Cav struggled vs the US, so did David, that was a combination of the Americans playing well and our tactical set up being very poor, it will be nice to have 2 good options at #9! Or it was Cavallini who had never scored for the CMNT (has only been scoring for canada in the last 14months), going on a scoring run against mainly minnows and everyone deemed Larin as excess baggage. We cant afford to throw anyone on the scrap heap. And strikers will always look bad when the team gets man handled and their service dries up. You cant fault Cav too much for the USA game, just like you cant fault Larin too much for the times he has had rough games. Anyone who can bang in a goal every second game in MLS should have a place in our squad. We are going to need Cav, David and Larin all to contribute. What decent team doesnt have at least 2-3 strikers that can score?? Shortdutchcanuck, gator and whyalla63 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaFan123 Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 It’s funny that the narrative is that Larin failed in Turkey and is excelling in Belgium, in reality Besiktas never gave him a shot. For Besiktas he scored 0.97 goals per 90 in the league.. that’s insane. He was given only 4 league starts. In Belgium he’s scoring 0.44 goals per 90, which is great but less than half what he produced goal wise in turkey. Obviously he’s getting involved a lot more with assists as well. Should Besiktas not be giving him another shot? Corazon, johnyb and deschamp86 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 2 hours ago, Floortom said: Cavallini was atrocious last match against the US but he has been very good generally in a Canadian shirt - much better than Larin and it isn’t particularly close. Would be rash to take him out of the starting 11 for Larin. Until last game Cavallini hadn't scored for Puebla in a while, so it's not just about the US match, at least for me anyways. I think Larin has at least earned a recall, if not a start. It's great to have 2 good no. 9 options, 3 if you count David. Everyone won't always be on form at the same time. WestHamCanadianinOxford, dyslexic nam, h coach and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floortom Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 3 hours ago, Obinna said: Until last game Cavallini hadn't scored for Puebla in a while, so it's not just about the US match, at least for me anyways. I think Larin has at least earned a recall, if not a start. It's great to have 2 good no. 9 options, 3 if you count David. Everyone won't always be on form at the same time. I don’t think anyone denies that larin should be called up. He’s quite in form right now and inarguably one of our best strikers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dyslexic nam Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 38 minutes ago, Floortom said: I don’t think anyone denies that larin should be called up. He’s quite in form right now and inarguably one of our best strikers. Definitely top 3. MtlMario 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SerTwenty Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 19 hours ago, CanadaFan123 said: It’s funny that the narrative is that Larin failed in Turkey and is excelling in Belgium, in reality Besiktas never gave him a shot. For Besiktas he scored 0.97 goals per 90 in the league.. that’s insane. He was given only 4 league starts. In Belgium he’s scoring 0.44 goals per 90, which is great but less than half what he produced goal wise in turkey. Obviously he’s getting involved a lot more with assists as well. Should Besiktas not be giving him another shot? They should, but I hope they won't. Belgium is much better development league, Turkey is basically a dead end. johnyb and deschamp86 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dennis Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 Looks like Larin's good form in Belgium has seen his stock rise on Transfermarkt. He's valued at 4 million euro now. The highest of his career. CANMNT_SUPERFAN, Addona, costarg and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowcrash Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 9 minutes ago, dennis said: Looks like Larin's good form in Belgium has seen his stock rise on Transfermarkt. He's valued at 4 million euro now. The highest of his career. Could be the fit of the jersey but he looks a lot more trim than when he was in MLS or Turkey: https://twitter.com/axiasportsmgmt/status/1205413494071480320 JuicyHam, Club Linesman and johnyb 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dyslexic nam Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 Larin scores a goal and gets an assist (according to FB V’s) in today’s 2-0 Belgian Cup win. Keep it up! Bison44, johnyb, CANMNT_SUPERFAN and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpursFlu Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 (edited) I have a theory with Larin. He has a totally different personality compared to just say Atiba. I don't think Turkey is the right place for him. For some it's difficult to adapt to other cultures and different languages. I think that's contributed to his recent success, he's more comfortable in Belgium. Edited December 18, 2019 by SpursFlu deschamp86 and baulderdash77 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jordan Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 9 hours ago, SpursFlu said: I have a theory with Larin. He has a totally different personality compared to just say Atiba. I don't think Turkey is the right place for him. For some it's difficult to adapt to other cultures and different languages. I think that's contributed to his recent success, he's more comfortable in Belgium. Interesting that Boyd the american seems to be having a problem there too. Started the season off ok and has played mostly in the cup and europa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baulderdash77 Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 10 hours ago, SpursFlu said: I have a theory with Larin. He has a totally different personality compared to just say Atiba. I don't think Turkey is the right place for him. For some it's difficult to adapt to other cultures and different languages. I think that's contributed to his recent success, he's more comfortable in Belgium. His production - 9 goals, 8 assists in about 2,000 minutes so far point to him being comfortable but also that he’s developing. In the past he was never a playmaker, just a scorer. He’s changing his style with the playmaking now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 2 hours ago, baulderdash77 said: His production - 9 goals, 8 assists in about 2,000 minutes so far point to him being comfortable but also that he’s developing. In the past he was never a playmaker, just a scorer. He’s changing his style with the playmaking now. And we should note those assists are legit and do not include secondary assists like MLS. That makes his playmaking development even more impressive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corazon Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 I think it was mentioned in here or another thread recently but he clearly looks much more fit now than ever before. I noticed this in person at the Canada game back in September as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikmacdo Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 He deserves to start. We suck at defending so why not go to a 3-5-2. It gets Davies and laryea up the field higher where they can really hurt defenses. --------Henry Vitoria Cornelius Laryea-arfield-piette-kaye-davies ----------david------larin---------- Cavalinni has work to out in to catch Larin right now. baulderdash77, LeoH037 and Corazon 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
costarg Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 1 hour ago, Mikmacdo said: He deserves to start. We suck at defending so why not go to a 3-5-2. It gets Davies and laryea up the field higher where they can really hurt defenses. --------Henry Vitoria Cornelius Laryea-arfield-piette-kaye-davies ----------david------larin---------- Cavalinni has work to out in to catch Larin right now. 3-5-2 is definitely our best formation considering our roster and weak/strong points. I'm not entirely sold on the David/Larin combo up top just yet, however it could be interesting given their production. I also feel MIller at CB might be better than what we've seen from Henry lately, much more level headed at the very least. Hope to see Estaquio challenge Piette for the #6 role. Its coming together. Crazy to think we'd have Cavallini, Hoilett, Hutchinson & Osorio on the bench. I can see ZBG challenging for a starter role in a year or so. Millar.... things are looking up! CANMNT_SUPERFAN 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpursFlu Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 (edited) I dont know.. there is a lot of evidence to suggestMLS is a much higher standard to Belgium Edited December 18, 2019 by SpursFlu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikmacdo Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 11 minutes ago, SpursFlu said: I dont know.. there is a lot of evidence to suggestMLS is a much higher standard to Belgium Like what? I'd rate Belgium higher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dennis Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 Belgium's top half is far better. Pretty much the same from the middle down. http://www.globalfootballrankings.com/ CANMNT_SUPERFAN 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikmacdo Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 2 minutes ago, dennis said: Belgium's top half is far better. Pretty much the same from the middle down. http://www.globalfootballrankings.com/ Brazil is way too high there. Belgium Liga nos and turkey are better. I think Argentina is better than Brazil usually in Copa libertadores. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dennis Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 Was surprised how high the Austrian Bundesliga ranked. Not sure on how the metrics are calculated but for the most part that's how I perceive the relative quality of world football leagues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 Everything from 6 to 23 is more or less interchangeable. Russia, Turkey, Holland, Belgium, Championship, Portugal, Brazil, Argentina, Liga MX, MLS, Denmark, Japan, etc... Some of those leagues are stronger than others but there is no big divide. The big divide is the super clubs versus everyone else in those leagues. Teams like Ajax, PSV, Benfica, Porto, River Plate, Boca Juniors, Club America, Galatasaray, Besiktas, Fenerbache, Club Brugges, CSKA Moscow, Zenit, etc. MLS has the most parity, so there is no single club you can put into that elite group. That makes the league comparisons difficult and kind of worthless in my opinion. So anyway, I don't think we can say MLS is way better than Belgium or vice versa. And to bring it back to Larin versus Cavallini, we don't need to put Cyle back on top just because Lucas left Liga MX and went to Vancouver. He is still the same player. I think Larin deserves a look because of his goals, but if he was scoring at this rate at Club Brugges or Besiktas, then we can talk about him being no. 1. Best of all though is to defer to both of their play in a Canada shirt if you want to decide who the best is. BCM, CANMNT_SUPERFAN, N1ckbr0wn and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpursFlu Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 (edited) Haven't the 2 best players in Belgium come over and played for TFC recently? Good players but I wouldnt say anything out of this world. Plus the first guy went to LigaMX and totally flopped. I've been watching a lot of Gent recently for obvious reasons and considering they're one of the better teams.. yah theyre ok. It's a nice little league but cmon. I think there are a few reasons Larin is doing better but a big reason that's the clearest of all is... he's playing against Belgian club teams every week Edited December 19, 2019 by SpursFlu N1ckbr0wn and Bison44 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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