hectorj Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 ROUND ONE: 10 teams involved: ( 26-35 RANKED TEAMS) (Montserrat, Caymans, etc) 2 home and away games ROUND TWO: 12 teams involved: Winners of Round one + teams ranked 19-25 2 home and away games ROUND THREE: 24 teams involved: Teams ranked 1-18 + winners of round 2 (8 groups of 3) Winners qualify for Round 3 ROUND FOUR: 8 teams (1 group) Top three direct qualification/1 playoff The advantage of a system like this is that to get to the 'Octo" teams like El Salvador, Canada, Guatemala, T and T, Jamaica, etc would only have to play each other most likely in Round 3 as they would be most likely be teams ranked 7-12. The top ranked teams would only get minnows in round three. Also, the best of the Caribbean teams would get 4 to 8 games. Additionally, if FIFA wanted more games for the weaker nations, the minnow teams could be involved in a mini tourney in Round 1 ( two groups of five/ top 2 advance and the third place teams play off for last sport) for Round 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpg75 Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 Sorry Hector, but under that format there's a greater than 50/50 chance we end up playing only 4 games (if we're being honest with ourselves). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadianSoccerFan Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 Minor update. Grant Wahl of Sports Illustrated, who had a full blown fanboy meltdown a few years back the last time the precious USA-MEX game was under threat, had a word with Victor. "Two, he does support changing CONCACAF World Cup qualifying in the next cycle to give more games to smaller countries, but he says he doesn’t want to take away the big USA-Mexico qualifiers that already take place." http://www.si.com/planet-futbol/2016/10/19/thomas-muller-bayern-munich-concacaf-victor-montagliani-gold-cup-ccl-fifa Not sure if he's politicking or being honest. If he means that then it sounds like a CONMEBOL style giant round robin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadianSoccerFan Posted December 24, 2016 Share Posted December 24, 2016 Further indication from Vic that the final round will be an expanded single table. Montagliani wants to potentially expand CONCACAF’s final six-team group — known as the “hex” — by adding teams. “It might be bigger than the hex,” he said. “You get some of the classic rivalries, like Mexico-U.S. and Canada-Honduras.” http://www.torontosun.com/2016/12/23/canadian-soccer-boss-supports-world-cup-expansion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shway Posted December 24, 2016 Share Posted December 24, 2016 CONCACAF president-elect Victor Montagliani, who’s set to depart the Canadian Soccer Association in May, I didn't know he was done in May? Hmm.... So we have a president and a head coach to replace? Means were going into the Gold Cup with Findlay as the interim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThiKu Posted December 24, 2016 Share Posted December 24, 2016 why does the Concacaf web site only list 25 nations? 3 of which are not full members so can't participate in qualifying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackdude Posted December 24, 2016 Share Posted December 24, 2016 2 hours ago, ThiKu said: why does the Concacaf web site only list 25 nations? 3 of which are not full members so can't participate in qualifying. WHich ones? CONCACAF has 35 FIFA members. The 3 North American Countries, the 7 Central American countries and the following 25 Carribbean countries: Anguilla, Antigua & Barbuda, Aruba, Bahamas, Barbados, BErmuda, British Virgin Islands, Cayman Islands, Cuba, Curaçao, Dominica, Dominican Republic, Grenada, Guyana, Haiti, Jamaica, Montserrat, Puerto Rico, St Kitts and Nevis, St Lucia, St Vincent & the Grenadines, Suriname, Trinidad and Tobago, Turks and Caicos, US Virgin ISlands. They have 6 non-FIFA members in Guadeloupe, Martinique, French Guiana, Sint Maarten, Saint-Martin and Bonaire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJB Posted December 25, 2016 Share Posted December 25, 2016 On 2016-10-16 at 11:54 AM, Cheeta said: They are for the foreseeable future going to be seeded 1-2 in CONCACRAP so Twin Hex wouldn't hurt their chances of qualifying for the Finals. Interestingly though, I don't think they would have been 1-2 this time around. At least that's my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThiKu Posted December 26, 2016 Share Posted December 26, 2016 On 12/24/2016 at 2:12 PM, Blackdude said: WHich ones? CONCACAF has 35 FIFA members. The 3 North American Countries, the 7 Central American countries and the following 25 Carribbean countries: Anguilla, Antigua & Barbuda, Aruba, Bahamas, Barbados, BErmuda, British Virgin Islands, Cayman Islands, Cuba, Curaçao, Dominica, Dominican Republic, Grenada, Guyana, Haiti, Jamaica, Montserrat, Puerto Rico, St Kitts and Nevis, St Lucia, St Vincent & the Grenadines, Suriname, Trinidad and Tobago, Turks and Caicos, US Virgin ISlands. They have 6 non-FIFA members in Guadeloupe, Martinique, French Guiana, Sint Maarten, Saint-Martin and Bonaire. concacaf.com Maybe I wasn't reading the full list - I see it is 35 now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackdude Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 15 hours ago, ThiKu said: concacaf.com Maybe I wasn't reading the full list - I see it is 35 now. It has been 35 since 1998. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadianSoccerFan Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 Here's a twist! It won't apply to the 2022 format but for 2026 Gianni Infantino wants CONCACAF and CONMEBOL to have combined qualifying. http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-soccer-fifa-worldcup-idUKKBN14S0LL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floortom Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 43 minutes ago, CanadianSoccerFan said: Here's a twist! It won't apply to the 2022 format but for 2026 Gianni Infantino wants CONCACAF and CONMEBOL to have combined qualifying. http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-soccer-fifa-worldcup-idUKKBN14S0LL Would be great to watch ..imagine playing Argentina, Colombia, Chile etc.. in WCQ. but we might as well forget about qualifying for a WC until 2100 now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadianSoccerFan Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 8 minutes ago, Floortom said: Would be great to watch ..imagine playing Argentina, Colombia, Chile etc.. in WCQ. but we might as well forget about qualifying for a WC until 2100 now. That's why I think it won't happen. CONCACAF teams wouldn't benefit from the World Cup expansion. Reported allocation is 14 berths but only 4 or 5 would go to CONCACAF so hardly an improvement on the status quo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stryker911 Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 1 hour ago, CanadianSoccerFan said: That's why I think it won't happen. CONCACAF teams wouldn't benefit from the World Cup expansion. Reported allocation is 14 berths but only 4 or 5 would go to CONCACAF so hardly an improvement on the status quo. However, CONEMBOL would love it as it almost guarantees 7 - 9 of their teams would make it so I am sure they would all be down for it. Can FIFA force CONCACAF and CONEMBOL to merge for qualifying? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 7 minutes ago, Stryker911 said: However, CONEMBOL would love it as it almost guarantees 7 - 9 of their teams would make it so I am sure they would all be down for it. Can FIFA force CONCACAF and CONEMBOL to merge for qualifying? Only if Concacaf continue to insist on having an annual Panamerican soccer tournament Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadianSoccerFan Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpg75 Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 Asia 8.5, what a joke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingvikingstad Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 I think there's an argument that merging CONMEBOL and CONCACAF is actually a good thing long-term for us. Playing teams like Brazil, Argentina, etc will only create more buzz around the sport, which leads to better TV ratings and gate receipts - which ultimately means more money in the CSA coffers that can be redistributed into training and development. So while it may be bad in terms of qualifying for a generation, maybe it's better for the longer term. I see both sides of the coin really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob.notenboom Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 2 hours ago, CanadianSoccerFan said: Should I take this rumour seriously considering they can't add up to 48? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottie Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 ^Yeah no kidding. They have three federations with half spots, where does the fourth one go? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadianSoccerFan Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 Sounds like it's the room left for negotiation. We'll see if anything's officially announced Tuesday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footscray Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 That tweet looks in line with the prevailing rumors. Uefa has been promised 16... Most media is saying caf and asia are going to 18. Deductive reasoning leaves conmebol and concacaf with 12-13 depending on how oceania gets handled. My hope is that oceania has a playoff with asia as that is by far the worst confed on ability imo and australia migrated there already. Combined with the rumors about conmebol and concacaf merging qualifiers could completely change the soccer world in the americas. 13 spots for 45 teams... Picturing 9 groups of 5 teams with the winners getting a spot and the 8 best runners up going into a playoff? Could be fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadianSoccerFan Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 27 minutes ago, Footscray said: 13 spots for 45 teams... Picturing 9 groups of 5 teams with the winners getting a spot and the 8 best runners up going into a playoff? Could be fun. Headline in Belize: world's #1 player visit Belize's #1 store. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpg75 Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 Brasil in a group with Montserrat, Puerto Rico, El Salvador and Canada. Don't think so. They would cull the herd first. 10 CONMEBOL plus 14 CONCACAF. 2 groups of 12 with top 6 advancing plus 7v7 playoff. Or 4 groups of 6 with top 3 plus 2 playoff rounds for 4th place finishers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matty Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 Concacaf and conembol merging will likely no happen unless everyone in both confederations is an idiot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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