Colliedor Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 54 minutes ago, Gian-Luca said: Bizarrely it is Piette playing in his spot at right back I can only hope to God this isn't giving Herdman the wrong idea. MtlMario, dyslexic nam, Bison44 and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trois Reds Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 Brault-Guillard is on for the second half. JuicyHam, Nate3322, dyslexic nam and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VinceA Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 ZBG has been quiet, especially late. Mikmacdo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weng Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 Tabla has looked good tonight Kadenge, Nate3322, Obinna and 11 others 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dyslexic nam Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 1 hour ago, Weng said: Tabla has looked good tonight That is good to hear. He is still so young it would be great to see things get back on track. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpursFlu Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 (edited) Tabla & ZBG should start. Mtl are not good and at least they're exciting to watch Edited July 10, 2020 by SpursFlu Nate3322 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shway Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 Henry set them up to park the bus. The formation said everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TGAA_Star Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 ZBG should even be starting at RB for Canada not Laryea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 I only watched part of the first half. Piette (predictably) looked very uncomfortable at wing back. Glad to hear ZBG and Tabla impressed. Tabla has so much talent man, I really hope he can put it all together and reach his potential. He can be an MLS All-star (or better) if he reaches his ceiling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nolando Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 Piette's perfect through-ball gave Montreal their best scoring chance, other than Tabla's screamer at the end. Speaking of which, it's too bad that shot wasn't a foot higher, as it might have been the game saver. Big fan ZBG - let's hope he plays a lot of minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bdog Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 The Canadians made a case for more playing time for sure. Tabla looked more dangerous than the other wingers to me, I noticed he’s very direct. He didn’t beat his man every time but I love when wingers actually try to challenge defenders. Kadenge, Ivan, johnyb and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floortom Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 Tabla has a positive performance which was nice to see. it looks like he’s gained quite a few pounds though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dyslexic nam Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 4 hours ago, Floortom said: Tabla has a positive performance which was nice to see. it looks like he’s gained quite a few pounds though. Who am I to judge? Bison44 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colliedor Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 (edited) I wasn't fully focused on the game, but every time I saw Tabla with the ball he was hogging it and failing to beat his defender.. He brought energy ya, but i saw him lose possession a lot. I don't know, maybe I missed something here. Just noticed I'm saying this in a ZBG topic, huh? Edited July 11, 2020 by Colliedor Obinna 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Colliedor said: I wasn't fully focused on the game, but every time I saw Tabla with the ball he was hogging it and failing to beat his defender.. He brought energy ya, but i saw him lose possession a lot. I don't know, maybe I missed something here. Just noticed I'm saying this in a ZBG topic, huh? I think Tabla brings excitement due to his intention rather than his actual end product. He does repeatedly fail to beat his man, but he always tries and Canada doesn't produce many players like that. It is understandable why people are excited about him. Like any young player, we are tempted to focus on their potential while forgiving their lack of production (Millar is in the same boat), so it's good to hear a healthy dose of criticism about him. I should probably at least mention ZBG. Someone mentioned he was quiet and I saw the replay and would agree. That's not always a bad thing for a defender though. He never made any errors or turnovers, so at least you can take away that as a positive. I continue to believe ZBG versus Laryea is the main battle for right back. Both are solid options and so we have at least 1 position on the backline we can be confident about. Next we have to sort out left back. I would say it is "half" sorted because Davies is world class and Adekugbe and Miller are serviceable, but the position still feels unsettled for me. It probably will continue to feel that way until Herdman gives someone a run of games there. Or perhaps nobody has actually proven to him they deserve it and so he continues to resort back to Davies? Maybe there is some truth to that, but either way right back is looking good at least, for the present and the future. Edited July 11, 2020 by Obinna N1ckbr0wn and Bdog 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikmacdo Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 Richie is far more impactful than zbg. If zgb didn't come from Lyon I doubt we would even be having a debate. BrennanFan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kadenge Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 2 hours ago, Mikmacdo said: Richie is far more impactful than zbg. If zgb didn't come from Lyon I doubt we would even be having a debate. If you mean Laryea is more impactful because he can score or win a penalty when his team is down a goal, then I agree.... that's when he subs in for TFC . He has not won the starting RB spot for his club for a reason.... his defensive ability has not been tested. Ritchie is also playing with better players and more support at TFC. In the games I have watched ZBG play last season and this season, he has performed very well and is a threat with his speed. He played conservatively yesterday and I have to think that was the instructions from the coaching staff for some reason! I would comfortably say that ZBG is a more complete RB than RL at this stage and that he has a higher ceiling. Lyon does develop top talent through their academies, so its no surprise. With Davies potentially playing at LB, we need a RB that is sound defensively. N1ckbr0wn, costarg and HochelagaFC 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikmacdo Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 38 minutes ago, Kadenge said: If you mean Laryea is more impactful because he can score or win a penalty when his team is down a goal, then I agree.... that's when he subs in for TFC . He has not won the starting RB spot for his club for a reason.... his defensive ability has not been tested. Ritchie is also playing with better players and more support at TFC. In the games I have watched ZBG play last season and this season, he has performed very well and is a threat with his speed. He played conservatively yesterday and I have to think that was the instructions from the coaching staff for some reason! I would comfortably say that ZBG is a more complete RB than RL at this stage and that he has a higher ceiling. Lyon does develop top talent through their academies, so its no surprise. With Davies potentially playing at LB, we need a RB that is sound defensively. He doesn't start because auro a top right back on MLS and so Richie. Layrea has been a right back for a year and is better than zbg already. We need to use. 3-5-2 with Davies and layrea at wingback. Nate3322 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colliedor Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 1 hour ago, Kadenge said: He has not won the starting RB spot for his club for a reason.... his defensive ability has not been tested. This is such an odd take. In the end of the day, Laryea started in 16 matches last season while ZBG started 9. You can't exactly call ZBG a starter too. I mean, we just witnessed Piette starting over him last match. A player not starting is not always a reasonable argument imo. Managers make moves we don't always agree with. I would personally rather see Laryea over Auro, just like I'm sure people didn't agree with seeing Piette start over ZBG. And people need to quit it with this whole "defending" thing with Laryea. What has he been doing to make people still think like this? He played RB all season last year, he's had plenty of games to show what he can do defensively. He has been tested and has done well, so I don't get the problem here. If I remember right, I recall seeing his defensive stats outshining Auro's last year. sebdeserio, Mikmacdo, Kent and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N1ckbr0wn Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 (edited) I like both ZBG and Laryea as options at rb. I really do think they are inter changeable in our starting XI. With his age and slightly more experience, I’d have to go with Laryea with the slight edge RIGHT NOW. If I had to say who I thought has the higher ceiling, I’d give it to ZBG. I’m just happy we got 2 solid options on our already questionable back line Edited July 11, 2020 by N1ckbr0wn CANMNT_SUPERFAN, Obinna, dyslexic nam and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PopePouri Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 They both need another season for me to judge their quality. An Observer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 Toronto basically have two starting right backs. ZBG is the starter at Montreal and Piette was an early-season experiment. That’s my take on it. N1ckbr0wn and RS 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikmacdo Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 17 minutes ago, Colliedor said: This is such an odd take. In the end of the day, Laryea started in 16 matches last season while ZBG started 9. You can't exactly call ZBG a starter too. I mean, we just witnessed Piette starting over him last match. A player not starting is not always a reasonable argument imo. Managers make moves we don't always agree with. I would personally rather see Laryea over Auro, just like I'm sure people didn't agree with seeing Piette start over ZBG. And people need to quit it with this whole "defending" thing with Laryea. What has he been doing to make people still think like this? He played RB all season last year, he's had plenty of games to show what he can do defensively. He has been tested and has done well, so I don't get the problem here. If I remember right, I recall seeing his defensive stats outshining Auro's last year. Auro is definitely a better defender. He had good defensive stats. Tfc is best with both on the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bison44 Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 I know its the ZBG thread, but Harris looked good in USL tonight at RB for the monarchs. Maybe if we are patient, more RB options will present themselves. toontownman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PopePouri Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 (edited) There's Alistair Johnson as well who probably has a better chance of getting decent minutes at MLS level. Also Clement Bayiha. Edited July 12, 2020 by PopePouri toontownman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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