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Imagine being 23 and having played for your senior national team for eight years.

Career-wise she's just out of school and getting started, she's in the best place in the world she could be, she trains with the best players in the world and the cultural and language issues are manageable. It takes time to adjust from playing and training day in and day out with university players to the best in the world. It's a process and it just takes time. The recipe and ingredients are world class.

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Fleming got on for the last 15 minutes against Man U when Chelsea was already leading 4-1, got a hockey assist on one goal, and also scored one herself (her first in the league).  Her goal was rather lucky (the goaltender parried a shot right into one of the defenders, and the ball ricocheted to Fleming), but she did chip the goaltender nicely to put the ball in the net.  She looked pretty effective out there, although it is hard to know how much of that was down to the Man U players not trying as hard in a lost cause.  Here's hoping that it might lead to more time on the pitch when the games aren't already over.

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I don't know about that.  It was her stone-cold penalty takes in the Olympics that got her noticed enough for Ballon d'Or votes.  When I watch Fleming sub in for Reiten or Leupolz on Chelsea, I don't notice much improvement in team play.  I don't like that she mostly gets subbed on for garbage time at the end of blowouts, but I also recognize that she's still not good enough to permanently replace any of the starters yet.  There's probably some plan for her to eventually become a starter, but I don't think that time has arrived yet.  She's really good, but she's on a stacked team.

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There is only one English player in the midfield, Spence, and I don't remember her getting much playing time.  Cuthbert is Scottish and Ingle is Welsh, but they play wide.  Fleming is usually playing in the middle of the park, where Leupolz (German), Harder (Danish) and Ji (Korean) play.  I don't think Fleming's lack of playing time has anything to do with her not being English.

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On 11/9/2021 at 8:27 PM, red card said:

Fleming with goal & assist in a blowout WCL match against hapless Swiss champion Servette. Previously they lost 5-0 to Wolfsburg. Looks like Servette got achool kids to fill out the stands.

Fleming has 3 goals this year after going scoreless last year.

 

You can't fairly say "hapless" if you look at most of these CL group stage scorelines. A lot of blowouts. And the sort of embarrassing stuff we haven't seen in elite women's competition recently. 

There's a major drop off in quality after the top 8-10 or so in Europe. Really the argument for a Super League makes more sense for the women, though I appreciate the logic of getting the 2nd tier of teams into tougher matches. 

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What some are calling the worst reffing job in women's Champions League history, Chelsea - Real Madrid, including a Fleming challenge on Athenea clearly outside the box the ref and lineswoman called in.

Hayes says they were robbed.

https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/13009242/uefa-plan-to-fully-implement-var-in-womens-champions-league-after-emma-hayes-says-chelsea-were-robbed-of-3-1-win-over-real-madrid

 

 

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