lazlo_80 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 12 minutes ago, spitfire said: Liam scores a hatrick again his 3rd in a year since joining Liverpool in The FA youth cup http://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/academy/284186-millar-nets-a-treble-as-u18s-hit-five-at-hartlepool-united As a guy who I imagine understands the Liverpool system far better than I ever would I have a question... How does this end? Does he get a sniff from the first team? Does he go on loan to a lower level team while they monitor him? Does he leave the system and go somewhere else completely? Just curious what your take is on this sort of prospect in the liverpool academy. TFC2017 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yothat Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 call him up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oranje Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 9 minutes ago, yothat said: call him up How could they justify not calling him up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ansem Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 25 minutes ago, Oranje said: How could they justify not calling him up. to not interfere with his club minutes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matty Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 1 hour ago, Oranje said: How could they justify not calling him up. For youth or senior team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oranje Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 25 minutes ago, matty said: For youth or senior team? Senior, if you're good enough to play it shouldn't matter how old you are. Not the most popular opinion around here though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matty Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 6 minutes ago, Oranje said: Senior, if you're good enough to play it shouldn't matter how old you are. Not the most popular opinion around here though. I'd say the rationale would be he's not playing at the proper level yet and they want to see him play with a senior team first which is fair Obinna, Zem and deschamp86 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unnamed Trialist Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 17 hours ago, lazlo_80 said: As a guy who I imagine understands the Liverpool system far better than I ever would I have a question... How does this end? Does he get a sniff from the first team? Does he go on loan to a lower level team while they monitor him? Does he leave the system and go somewhere else completely? Just curious what your take is on this sort of prospect in the liverpool academy. Brewster who plays by his side has been called into the Reserve squad (as posted here), but not permanently. The golden boot for the winners at the u17 WC, btw, and clearly not considered by Liverpool a superior player to Liam. Brewster and Liam are a deadly combination, Brewster more target, Liam a second striker playing off him. I think we have to trust that with Gerrard as the coach, they can guide them up properly. Most likely you have to let him finish the UEFA Youth League, where by winning their group they are into the final 16, draw early Feb, knockout match later that month. Then you work him into reserve games and see how he does, like with other top u-17s. Another thing you do is occasionaly have him train with the first team, like if internationals are away and you need extra bodies, to get him used to it. But all this is only if you think he has promise and you want to keep him, if you are going to cut him after this year you dont bother with all that. The problem is that only rarely can an 18 year old help a top flight team in a major league, it's been done (Milner started early, Bojan Krkcic very early, way back when Kluivert won a Champions League scoring a winner as a teen) but it is the exception. lazlo_80 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oranje Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 3 minutes ago, matty said: I'd say the rationale would be he's not playing at the proper level yet and they want to see him play with a senior team first which is fair Legit question, not being a dick at all, but what did Alphonso do with Vancouver that'd warrant a call up? Not downplaying his achievements at all, but if memory serves he came off the bench a handful of times and scored a goal in a CCL game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matty Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 Just now, Oranje said: Legit question, not being a dick at all, but what did Alphonso do with Vancouver that'd warrant a call up? Not downplaying his achievements at all, but if memory serves he came off the bench a handful of times and scored a goal in a CCL game. He played in USL and MLS for like a year prior he's first senior cap. Both are senior leagues. Kent and Obinna 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oranje Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 2 minutes ago, matty said: He played in USL and MLS for like a year prior he's first senior cap. Both are senior leagues. Age aside, I find it hard to say 11 appearances in the USL and 8 appearances (2 starts) in MLS warrants a MNT call where consistently starting (and producing) under Gerrard for Liverpools U18 doesn't simply because it's not a "senior league". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matty Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 Just now, Oranje said: Age aside, I find it hard to say 11 appearances in the USL and 8 appearances (2 starts) in MLS warrants a MNT call where consistently starting (and producing) under Gerrard for Liverpools U18 doesn't simply because it's not a "senior league". Prior to his first cap Davies had played 11 USL and 19 MLS games under his belt not 11 and 8. Also playing and proving yourself against men is more valuable than playing and proving yourself against boys. Obinna, A_Gagne, Bertuzzi44 and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harrycoyster Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 1 minute ago, Oranje said: Age aside, I find it hard to say 11 appearances in the USL and 8 appearances (2 starts) in MLS warrants a MNT call where consistently starting (and producing) under Gerrard for Liverpools U18 doesn't simply because it's not a "senior league". You honestly never really know how good a youth player is until they are forced to produce at the pro level. Look at Julian Green the German-American that was called up to their 2014 World Cup team. He set scoring and assist records in the Bayern u18 team and had 25 goals in 50 games with the Bayern u23s by age 20. Still hasn't shown anything at the pro level. jpg75, A_Gagne, matty and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oranje Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 6 minutes ago, harrycoyster said: You honestly never really know how good a youth player is until they are forced to produce at the pro level. Look at Julian Green the German-American that was called up to their 2014 World Cup team. He set scoring and assist records in the Bayern u18 team and had 25 goals in 50 games with the Bayern u23s by age 20. Still hasn't shown anything at the pro level. I agree, you really don't, but to be fair Green got a USMNT cap when he was at BMII, which plays in the Regionalliga. To @matty's point the Regionalliga is a "senior league" which is the be-all, but the average age of the Bayern division is 23, so it's practically a youth league with a few over-agers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertuzzi44 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 I think Miller should get some senior minutes somewhere before a senor national team call-up. Even if he becomes a regular with the reserves.. Plus, what's wrong with having a good U20 team? jpg75 and Zem 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spitfire Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 A long way to go for Liam but he on the right track. Like I said before slow and steady...no rush just happy with his performance. the message is to keep working hard everyday, focusing on the details and concentrate on a complete.90 min performance every time u play. The goals are good but Steven is more interested in performance... Steven had some nice words to say about him... https://amp.hitc.com/en-gb/2017/12/14/16-goals-already-this-season-steven-gerrard-praises-electric-liv/?utm_medium=share%2Bbutton&utm_campaign=social%2Bmedia&utm_content=%2Fen-gb%2F2017%2F12%2F14%2F16-goals-already-this-season-steven-gerrard-praises-electric-liv%2F&utm_source=Twitter&__twitter_impression=true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 6 hours ago, Oranje said: I agree, you really don't, but to be fair Green got a USMNT cap when he was at BMII, which plays in the Regionalliga. To @matty's point the Regionalliga is a "senior league" which is the be-all, but the average age of the Bayern division is 23, so it's practically a youth league with a few over-agers. Fair points but an average age of 23 is way different than an average age of 17/18. Remember, Miller isn't even playing with Liverpool's reserves yet - just the U18 side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spitfire Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 (edited) MILLAR sorry for he caps.. the misspellings of his name bothers me! Edited December 15, 2017 by spitfire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oranje Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 13 hours ago, Obinna said: Fair points but an average age of 23 is way different than an average age of 17/18. Remember, Miller isn't even playing with Liverpool's reserves yet - just the U18 side. He was also called up to Liverpool's U23 team but I don't think he started any matches, just on as a sub. Obinna 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNMNTPERUELIGIBLE Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 On 2017-12-13 at 7:19 PM, spitfire said: Liam scores a hatrick again his 3rd in a year since joining Liverpool in The FA youth cup http://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/academy/284186-millar-nets-a-treble-as-u18s-hit-five-at-hartlepool-united Let's see all his goals from his most recent hat-trick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jith12 Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 (edited) Please delete Edited December 16, 2017 by Jith12 Incorrectly embedded the video Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jith12 Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 11 hours ago, CNMNTPERUELIGIBLE said: Let's see all his goals from his most recent hat-trick Full highlights of the game vs Hartlepool spitfire and CNMNTPERUELIGIBLE 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spitfire Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 (edited) On 29/11/2017 at 11:59 PM, CNMNTPERUELIGIBLE said: So just to be clear Liam is #9 and had a goal and assist.. wish there was the commentary...him and the #10 Curtis Jones have a really understanding.. Curtis assisted on all Liam's goals and scored the 5th... btw there was a crowd of 1000 watching this game a great atmosphere!! thx for putting the highlights up! Edited December 16, 2017 by spitfire more info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kadenge Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 1 hour ago, Jith12 said: Full highlights of the game vs Hartlepool still a mystery why he was not on the ballot for Canada U20 player for 2017 johnyb and spitfire 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNMNTPERUELIGIBLE Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 7 hours ago, Kadenge said: still a mystery why he was not on the ballot for Canada U20 player for 2017 Couldn't agree more! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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