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Probably because he is f***ing English. You expect the CSA to know about every kid in the world with some tie to Canada? We are going to miss some kids that are 14,15,16 years old. Why didn't they cal

At least then I can stop checking this goddamned thread.  

my disappointment over losing Tomori would be quite rapidly forgotten by a win over the US on the 15th

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30 minutes ago, matty said:

Hedges was the MLS Defender of the Year for 2016

Never heard of him either but that's a decent achievement I suppose. I looked st his wiki profile and couldn't find any Canadian connection. What is it?

When it comes to Tomori, I'm just going to reiterate that we should forget it. That great Chelsea appearance way back when spoke a thousand words, especially considering English kids his age never put in a decent start at a big Prem club during that time. He was always going to jump to the head of the line after that.

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Never heard of him either but that's a decent achievement I suppose. I looked st his wiki profile and couldn't find any Canadian connection. What is it?

When it comes to Tomori, I'm just going to reiterate that we should forget it. That great Chelsea appearance way back when spoke a thousand words, especially considering English kids his age never put in a decent start at a big English club. He was always going to jump to the head of the line after that.

His grandfather was born in Canada. He expressed minor interest in playing for Canada a while ago but I think that was just the result of him and Tesho joking around about it.

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1 hour ago, Macksam said:

Never heard of him either but that's a decent achievement I suppose. I looked st his wiki profile and couldn't find any Canadian connection. What is it?

When it comes to Tomori, I'm just going to reiterate that we should forget it. That great Chelsea appearance way back when spoke a thousand words, especially considering English kids his age never put in a decent start at a big Prem club during that time. He was always going to jump to the head of the line after that.

"...I enjoyed playing for Canada but now I am playing for England and I want to do the best for my country".

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It depends on what you mean by "in the USMNT picture." Ultimately, the CB pool starts with Besler, Cameron, and John Brooks. Likely Steve Birnbaum and the teenager Cameron Carter-Vickers.

Could Hedges do it? Sure. But I wouldn't count on it. Jurgen didn't rate him, and one of his strong suits was individual talent evaluation. 

Hedges can probably defend well enough to play at least the Concacaf level. Whether he has a well-rounded enough game to beat out a deep US pool remains to be seen.  But he would instantly upgrade Canada there. 

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I had no idea Matt Hedges had Canadian ties. Interesting. Klinsmann certainly ignored some quality American MLS players and Hedges was one of them. Not sure he'll make an impact for the U.S., but he's arguably the best defender in the MLS. I think Bester's better suited to the international game, but Hedges is pretty damn good.

 

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4 hours ago, One American said:

It depends on what you mean by "in the USMNT picture." Ultimately, the CB pool starts with Besler, Cameron, and John Brooks. Likely Steve Birnbaum and the teenager Cameron Carter-Vickers.

Could Hedges do it? Sure. But I wouldn't count on it. Jurgen didn't rate him, and one of his strong suits was individual talent evaluation. 

Hedges can probably defend well enough to play at least the Concacaf level. Whether he has a well-rounded enough game to beat out a deep US pool remains to be seen.  But he would instantly upgrade Canada there. 

By "in the picture" I mean that I think he'll keep getting invited to enough camps to keep him on the line, and probably a couple of official caps. He's not a major player for them but he's one of the better MLS guys

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Although he's been a late game sub for Brighton & Hove Albion during most of his loan, he played a full game today.

http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/39760417

Back in March with the England U-20s during the 4-nations friendly tournament he

Was a sub in the first game for the 2-2 draw with Portugal: http://www.thefa.com/news/2017/mar/23/england-u20s-v-portugal-230317

A starter in the 1-0 win over France: http://www.thefa.com/news/2017/mar/25/england-u20s-france-report-250317

& a starter for the 2-0 win over Senegal: http://www.thefa.com/news/2017/mar/28/senegal-v-england-u20s-report-280317

 

England should announce their U-20 World Cup Squad in the next 24hrs.

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I dislike it when players who should play for us use the Canadian program to boost their careers and then play for another nation. When our program goes after players like this who have stronger ties to other countries, losing them is part of the risk of bringing them into the program and I can't really blame the player since both sides know the situation when he is selected. Our coaching staff really has to calculate the risk of players like this taking up a place of someone who will certainly play for Canada in the future when selecting superior prospects with a strong risk of playing for another country. It is a bit damned if you do, damned if you don't though since if they don't select a player like this they are blamed for not selecting him but if they do they are blamed for him taking up a spot a someone with stronger ties to Canada could take.

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1 hour ago, Grizzly said:

I dislike it when players who should play for us use the Canadian program to boost their careers and then play for another nation. When our program goes after players like this who have stronger ties to other countries, losing them is part of the risk of bringing them into the program and I can't really blame the player since both sides know the situation when he is selected. Our coaching staff really has to calculate the risk of players like this taking up a place of someone who will certainly play for Canada in the future when selecting superior prospects with a strong risk of playing for another country. It is a bit damned if you do, damned if you don't though since if they don't select a player like this they are blamed for not selecting him but if they do they are blamed for him taking up a spot a someone with stronger ties to Canada could take.

How did playing for Canada boost his career? He was already highly touted, the point of getting minutes with the first team at age 17. Not only that but I'm tired when we trivialize the thought process for the player. It's more nuanced especially for Tomori who probably feels some sort of connection with Canada due to birth but pulls more to England where he grew up. Even for someone like Arfield who probably feels more Canadian now than he did a year ago. 

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Why didnt he wait for his England call then?  He could have used his "thought processes" to hold out for the big call from the England squad because he "pulls more" for them.  If he was so close to an England call he should have waited if that was his wish.  Heres a news flash, Canada were the only ones calling, and after he looked like a stud for us England made sure to include him so he wouldnt get away from them.  

People give these kids alot of slack, when there are plenty of kids in the real world making more important decisions that this when they are 17.  

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30 minutes ago, PopePouri said:

How did playing for Canada boost his career? He was already highly touted, the point of getting minutes with the first team at age 17. Not only that but I'm tired when we trivialize the thought process for the player. It's more nuanced especially for Tomori who probably feels some sort of connection with Canada due to birth but pulls more to England where he grew up. Even for someone like Arfield who probably feels more Canadian now than he did a year ago. 

I don't think you read properly what I wrote.

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